Minato isn't stronger than EMS Madara

[DigitalMonster]

What's the purpose of this thread really?

 

[HinataAzula]

Reading OP's post was making me like Minato some because he seemed weaker than Madara, but valiantly tried to defeat him.

But then his fanboys came in and started saying Minato is a god being the strongest character in the manga (Stronger than Hasharima, Madara, etc). Now I'm back to hating Minato.

Him and Itachi man... Can't stand either because of the hype.

im sorry but ur just an idiot u need to think for urself no one said he was THE strongest we are just saying that he is not as weak as the thread starter wants to make him sound im sorry but basing whether u like a character on what his fans are like is just dumb the only reason i can think of to base a character on the fans is because u know nothing about the character or u don't understand the character and the plot around him


anyway i think minato did an excellent job he just had his child, whats her face was taken, and he had to deal with the ninetails the only reason minato died in the first place was because he was willing to die so that narutos mom could see him when he got older. so nice try minato haters but minato died because he chose to not because he lost unlike madara hes going to lose hands down

 

[Oblargagh]

Tell me what's the meaning of strong to you? This isn't dbz. In naruto a ninja is strong based off his smarts, skills, and jutsu, which minato has all three of. Lol at you saying i praise him all the time because that's definitely not true. You probably just used that to counter me saying i always see you bashing him.

If a ninja is strong based off his smarts, skills and jutsu... Why isn't there more Kabuto fans?

Kabuto has been shown to be extremely intelligent, he has amazing skills in genetics and medical ninjutsu and he has powerful jutsus like Edo Tensei.

I'm not saying this to single you out. I'm thoroughly curious.

 

[-Vegeta-]

If a ninja is strong based off his smarts, skills and jutsu... Why isn't there more Kabuto fans?

Kabuto has been shown to be extremely intelligent, he has amazing skills in genetics and medical ninjutsu and he has powerful jutsus like Edo Tensei.

I'm not saying this to single you out. I'm thoroughly curious.

Maybe because he's not that interesting of a character. People probably like Minato because he's a mystery, strong, the 4th hokage, and most importantly he's a hero. Kabuto's a antagonist and on top of that he's really not all that interesting in my opinion. These are at least the reasons i don't like Kabuto, i don't know why other people don't like him.

 

[Oblargagh]

im sorry but ur just an idiot u need to think for urself no one said he was THE strongest we are just saying that he is not as weak as the thread starter wants to make him sound im sorry but basing whether u like a character on what his fans are like is just dumb the only reason i can think of to base a character on the fans is because u know nothing about the character or u don't understand the character and the plot around him

I'm not offended at being called an idiot by someone who uses zero punctuation and can't spell.

That wasn't even a coherent thought that you just posted. It looked as though you were challenging my assessment that fans try to call Minato immensely powerful. They routinely call him the strongest Hokage and gush over the Flying Thunder God technique as if it is the best thing ever.

I think you also said (Out of that garbled mess) that I don't read the manga or something? Well, that's silly. I wouldn't know the characters then.

 

[The J]

He is

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Lol You are hilarious. First off that Sharingan genjutsu that you posted a page of was just Madara talking about Izanagi. So that was one fail. Show me one place where Madara actually uses a genjutsu that isn't Izanagi.

Secondly I am almost positive that rasengan is not Minato's strongest attack. He was considered the strongest Hokage for a reason, just because we have only seen him fight twice does not mean that is all he has. He fought first a ST user and also the 4th Raikage who is hella fast.

And you say Madara was hurried? That is complete BS, do you know what would happen if he lost control of the nine-tails? It would still go on rampaging, because guess what? It did. Minato had to save his wife and child in addition to the village so who was more hurried? Minato obviously, he was ambushed during his child's birth. So another major fail on your part.

And you are complaining about FTG? Minato threw that kunai there on purpose get over it. He also tagged Madara with a seal as well to mark him for FTG lv 2and get rid of the control of the nine-tails.

Clearly you are just a Minato hater that tries your hardest to belittle a make believe character. And you are failing at that by the way.

 

[HinataAzula]

What's the purpose of this thread really?

whats the purpose of u saying that? lol jk lol man i crack myself up

 

[DigitalMonster]

Hype can't defeat a character,only feats can.

 

[Oblargagh]

Maybe because he's not that interesting of a character. People probably like Minato because he's a mystery, strong, the 4th hokage, and most importantly he's a hero. Kabuto's a antagonist and on top of that he kind of lacks character depth in my opinion.

You see little of Minato's personality. What you do see is one dimensional. It's serious and unwaveringly good.

He's so pure that it's silly. It's quite stereotypical.

 

[blazekev90]

Tell me what's the meaning of strong to you? This isn't dbz. In naruto a ninja is strong based off his smarts, skills, and jutsu, which minato has all three of. Lol at you saying i praise him all the time because that's definitely not true. You probably just used that to counter me saying i always see you bashing him.

I'll finish u up later, I have class.

First I never watched DBZ and second there are plenty of other ninja who have these three characteristics. And I define strong as being a well rounded in aspects, above the average level shinobi. This includes; speed, strength, smarts, and ability. But it’s also how you have to go along with these abilities; it has nothing to do with their personality, that’s how one gains fans/favoritism. Minato had speed and intelligence above the average shinobi that’s it, and he gained favoritism through his accomplishments and character, but he lacked IMO the combination of strong NINJA (this isn’t a uss lifestyle). His technique benefited him as it made him almost impossible to catch, idk you can assert this as him being strong?? It’s like saying Flash is stronger than Batman, Superman, and Green Marshen or someone. Also, as I stated I’m not a hater, I just like putting ppl in their place when they overestimate characters, especially when all they have going for them is what someone else had said for their main argument.

 

[-Vegeta-]

I'll finish u up later, I have class.

Lol typical. Can't find a good counter argument so you make an excuse and leave.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Rubbish IT WAS NEVER STATED MINATO WAS strongest kage.

Im tried of hearing this. Dispite all the kages we see now, I still see this rubbish claim.


DO i really need to make a thread just to say it was fake interview where it said the third and forth hokages are strongest dead shinobi. it is common knowledge that interview was FAKE. Man it this was long ago too. Back in 2007.


Also Madara has stated he weakned from hasihrama wounds to this day everyone he meets and Itachi said it. THIS IS FACT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

And MINATO simply held madara back. A rasengan didt kill him did it? Or he would be dead now. So minato couldnt rid the world of madara with his most powerful attack, the rasengan. AND that was weakned madara who coulldnt use his MS techs.

Madara hasnt even shown us hes real power, even in big fights with minato. Itachi with all the plot armor going for him with TWO legendary weapons and shuis genjutsu didnt even try to pick a fight with Madara.

So undermining Madara is just a sign that u dont appreciate his value as a villain. He makes the show without him the show would be about sasuke crying a river. Full of emo crap.

Show respect, peace out.

Jiraya said the 4th hokage was the strongest kage might be bias but hes always been on the ball and is very wise but thats not the point Minato beat EMS madara(i assume it was madara and i assume he has the EMS or i cant say who would win) and saying hes weak is kind of a bit stupid because it wasnt straight after his fight with Hashirama and this form with the rinnegan is one of the strongest? you cant have one without the other i personally think Minato would beat EMS madara but wouldnt have as good a chance vs Rinnegan Madara

 

[-Vegeta-]

You see little of Minato's personality. What you do see is one dimensional. It's serious and unwaveringly good.

He's so pure that it's silly. It's quite stereotypical.

That's exactly my point. People like mysterious characters. Minato was extremely well liked even when we knew nothing about him.

 

[HinataAzula]

Lol You are hilarious. First off that Sharingan genjutsu that you posted a page of was just Madara talking about Izanagi. So that was one fail. Show me one place where Madara actually uses a genjutsu that isn't Izanagi.

Secondly I am almost positive that rasengan is not Minato's strongest attack. He was considered the strongest Hokage for a reason, just because we have only seen him fight twice does not mean that is all he has. He fought first a ST user and also the 4th Raikage who is hella fast.

And you say Madara was hurried? That is complete BS, do you know what would happen if he lost control of the nine-tails? It would still go on rampaging, because guess what? It did. Minato had to save his wife and child in addition to the village so who was more hurried? Minato obviously, he was ambushed during his child's birth. So another major fail on your part.

And you are complaining about FTG? Minato threw that kunai there on purpose get over it. He also tagged Madara with a seal as well to mark him for FTG lv 2and get rid of the control of the nine-tails.

Clearly you are just a Minato hater that tries your hardest to belittle a make believe character. And you are failing at that by the way.

i agree and i just want to point out that Madara had planned everything out in advance and that he was waiting for the childbirth to occur.

 

[JMAN]

Well minato is mentioned every where by lots of strong people , he is like their goal , the person to surpass.( raikage , kakashi etc ... )

 

[DigitalMonster]

Lol You are hilarious. First off that Sharingan genjutsu that you posted a page of was just Madara talking about Izanagi. So that was one fail. Show me one place where Madara actually uses a genjutsu that isn't Izanagi.

That is inarguably STILL relevant to the subject.

• Genjutsu'd Yagura for ages
• He was said to possess Tsukuyomi, the strongest genjutsu
  
  I might miss anything,but all those illusions involve eye-contact

Secondly I am almost positive that rasengan is not Minato's strongest attack. He was considered the strongest Hokage for a reason, just because we have only seen him fight twice does not mean that is all he has. He fought first a ST user and also the 4th Raikage who is hella fast.

Seriously though,I don't think Kishimoto would intends to hype Minato's further.

And you say Madara was hurried? That is complete BS, do you know what would happen if he lost control of the nine-tails? It would still go on rampaging, because guess what? It did. Minato had to save his wife and child in addition to the village so who was more hurried? Minato obviously, he was ambushed during his child's birth. So another major fail on your part.

I refer your response on who was more busy in the last paragraph of the OP.

And you are complaining about FTG? Minato threw that kunai there on purpose get over it. He also tagged Madara with a seal as well to mark him for FTG lv 2and get rid of the control of the nine-tails.

I don't blame Minato for what he did. I just criticize Kishimoto's favoritism towards Minato which caused the outcome of the story didn't follow the way it supposed to be in future.

Clearly you are just a Minato hater that tries your hardest to belittle a make believe character. And you are failing at that by the way.

You are precisely wrong.I am the biggest Minato fans.

 

[warlee]

Did u see the kages reaction when they hear madara is alive,that fear is instilled when he got ems. Though fodders were told to run on site against minato.

 

[Draegod]

That is inarguably STILL relevant to the subject.

• Genjutsu'd Yagura for ages
• He was said to possess Tsukuyomi, the strongest genjutsu
  
  I might miss anything,but all those illusions involve eye-contact

Seriously though,I don't think Kishimoto would intends to hype Minato's further.



I refer your response on who was more busy in the last paragraph of the OP.

I don't blame Minato for what he did. I just criticize Kishimoto's favoritism towards Minato which caused the outcome of the story didn't follow the way it supposed to be in future.



You are precisely wrong.I am the biggest Minato fans.

i like the way you responded! you countered everything in a professional matter. and i agree with you.

1. untill proven otherwise, reaper death seal and rasengan is his 2 best moves, and tobi tanked it. (not no "im almost sure thats not his best move", thats like saying he has sage mode. which is bull till proven.lol)

2. he has used genjutsu, on fuu and torune aswell, konan, and yagura for years as you mentioned.

3. tobi wasnt serius in that fight nor did he die. if minato could of killed him he would have. thats why he told naruto he did what he did because only someone with the full fox can defeate him. minato figured (i waould assume since he said what he said) that he couldnt kill tobi.

4. minato did do a good job, but it was the efforts of the village and kushina that helped hold/defeat the fox to help seal it.

5. that confrontaion minato had with raikage wasnt concluded for a winner or loser.

thats all ima add for the moment, but overall i agree, he isnt stronger then tobi or madara with TRUE EMS

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

Guys putting aside fayboyism. If minato could rid the would of madara wouldnt he have done it?

If madara is weaker why did he surive why did the series still go on? What was minayo last wish for naruto and point of "that jutsu" to be used on MADARA, AM I THE ONLY ONE READING THE MANGA. Or is this just trolling.

Why does kishi always mention madara is weaker shell of his former BECASUE THE BATTLE with hasihrama. Which by the way indirectly tells how much of beast hasihrama is(just saying).

So please guys put out the baised crap. You only miss out to the lore kishi is setting up about past kages and strong shinobi. And why they all revered to powerful. Minato died young, so he development was cut short so unfortualy there are other kages that are ahead of him. Things could have maybe different but they are arent.

Agreed, Minato is not as strong as Madara due to the fact that he entrusted Naruto to beat him. But I disagree with the fact that you said there other kages that are ahead of him, the only one that I could see ahead of him is hashirama.