Minato is still a stronger Hokage than Tobirama.

[Penguin]

I have already mentioned that earlier, Minato is in a state of mental breakdown and he is in no state of observng surroundngs....!

Tobirama had more knwldge than Minato since Minato died arround 21-25 and Tobirama died arroung 40-50....

he atleast had 20 years more experience that Minato

Naruto is the one to first realize that the attack of Gamakichi didn't vanished

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after a fraction of sec's Tobirama realized it and by that time Naruto comeup with a plan already

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After sensng senjutsu chakra from Naruto Tobirama realized Naruto's plan that Senjutsu chakra wil work on OBito

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Then he reacted accordngly.....Actually Tobirama only observed abt the attack he didn't knw abt senjutsu stuf until Naruto entered SM

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Naruto is the one to realize all these things faster than Tobirama ....

By ur logic Naruto is smarter than Tobirama right...?

This chapter never proved that Tobirama is smarter than Minato......

They both are top dog's when it come's to inteligence department u can't compare them just bcoz of one or 2 impressive feets....

Tobirama is more knwldgble than Minato due to his Experience not only Tobirama ..Sarutobi,Madara,Orochimaru,Jiraya and Hashirama are also above Minato when it come's to Knwldge........

Next time get the VIZ translation.

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- "He's noticed as well."

This means Tobirama knew also.

 

[GrayParadise]

Jimmies have been rustled over a google. He's about to have a psycho Billy freak out!

Alive Minato cannot have KCM, because when Minato was in the Reaper Death Seal, he spent 16 years in there, more or less. During that time he mastered KCM. Alive Minato does not have it, Edo Minato does. Edo Minato can sense, alive Minato can not. Do you get the picture?

Like the way you ignored everything else Lol
And anything that Edo Minato can do, living can as well.
Edo Minato is the only person who has shown those abilities. You've provided no proof WHY living Minato can't use them.

 

[Penguin]

Like the way you ignored everything else Lol
And anything that Edo Minato can do, living can as well.
Edo Minato is the only person who has shown those abilities. You've provided no proof WHY living Minato can't use them.
■After gaining control of the Nine-Tails' chakra, Naruto has displayed the Nine-Tails' ability to sense others' presence by detecting negative emotions, an ability Mito Uzumaki, a former jinchūriki of the Nine-Tails also had and something that Kisame stated other sensors cannot do.[17]

Alive Minato does not have KCM due to him needing to die to master it. Does this make sense? Reaper Death Seal kills him, and he takes half of the Kyuubi. Do you not get it?

 

[Nikes]

Jimmies have been rustled over a google. He's about to have a psycho Billy freak out!

Alive Minato cannot have KCM, because when Minato was in the Reaper Death Seal, he spent 16 years in there, more or less. During that time he mastered KCM. Alive Minato does not have it, Edo Minato does. Edo Minato can sense, alive Minato can not. Do you get the picture?

Wrong. Minato sealed Kyuubi chakra inside HIMSELF before he DIED. Half in Naruto half in himself yo. So no, he had the chakra while he was alive.

Alive Minato can sense theres a scan that someone provided you. You're wrong just admit it.

 

[Penguin]

Wrong. Minato sealed Kyuubi chakra inside HIMSELF before he DIED. Half in Naruto half in himself yo. So no, he had the chakra while he was alive.

Alive Minato can sense theres a scan that someone provided you. You're wrong just admit it.

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Read the manga.

 

[GrayParadise]

Alive Minato does not have KCM due to him needing to die to master it. Does this make sense? Reaper Death Seal kills him, and he takes half of the Kyuubi. Do you not get it?

It makes perfect sense, except he didn't haveto die to master it. That's just the way things happened to go. If he could do it in RDS, he can do it living.

 

[Tobby17]

No. I'm not going to explain that.

you have nothing to explain

 

[Nikes]

you have nothing to explain

Summons>>>Tobirama.

Rasengan>>>Tobiramas suiton

Minatos FTG profiency>>Tobiramas

I guess intelligence is a toss up right now.

 

[Avinash012]

Next time get the VIZ translation.

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- "He's noticed as well."

This means Tobirama knew also.

Dude look at first page(Bottom left Pannel) that I posted earlier Naruto noticed that Gamakichi's attack didn't vanished ..

in the next page(Top Left) u can observe that Naruto decided to enter SM

in same page (middle right)u can observe Tobirama realizng that Gamakichi's attack didn't vanished by sayng smthng like "This is" ..by that time Naruto already decided to enter SM and started to gather Senjutsu Chakra in the same page bottom left..........

Naruto is one step ahead of Tobirama..........

The time when Naruto started to gather Senjutsu chakra = the time when Tobirama noticed abt Gamakichi's attack.........

Dnt use fanboy logic's

 

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Read the manga.

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I did. :scorps:

 

[Penguin]

Summons>>>Tobirama.

Rasengan>>>Tobiramas suiton

Minatos FTG profiency>>Tobiramas

I guess intelligence is a toss up right now.

You think a toad summon could kill Tobirama?

No. Tobirama's suiton hit Minato before he Rasengan's Tobirama. Tobirama's suiton also washes away FTG Kunai. Diversity not proficiency. Intelligence goes to Tobirama along with reaction.

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I did. :scorps:

Alive Minato's body can barely handle the Kyuubi. What makes you think he can master it in that state? Unless you give him 16 years worth of prep time he does not have KCM while he is alive.

 

[Nikes]

You think a toad summon could kill Tobirama?

No. Tobirama's suiton hit Minato before he Rasengan's Tobirama. Tobirama's suiton also washes away FTG Kunai. Diversity not proficiency. Intelligence goes to Tobirama along with reaction.

Yes? It's a huge creature? And if not it certainly gives Minato a HUGE advantage.

Efficiency not diversity. Minatos use of FTG is more efficent than placing a seal by hand somewhere. Kunai is a lot faster.

Show me a reaction feat scan from Tobirama. Remember A about to obliterate Minato and Minato vanished when A's fist was millimeters away?

Everything you said about rasengan and suiton is scenario.

 

[Avinash012]

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Read the manga.

Even though Minato used RDS he sealed it inside his own body ....If u Observed correctly death god eat's soul's after sealng them inside Deathgod but DG didn't eat Kyubi's soul........!

DG had Eaten Minato's soul.......!

 

[Penguin]

Yes? It's a huge creature? And if not it certainly gives Minato a HUGE advantage.

Efficiency not diversity. Minatos use of FTG is more efficent than placing a seal by hand somewhere. Kunai is a lot faster.

Show me a reaction feat scan from Tobirama. Remember A about to obliterate Minato and Minato vanished when A's fist was millimeters away?

Everything you said about rasengan and suiton is scenario.

Toads are a huge advantage for Minato, but in the up coming chapter, I think Tobirama will surprise you with a summon.

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- Outspeeding and out reacting Minato in KCM Mode.

 

[Mellanoma]

Minato still outclasses Tobirama. Minato's version of FTG is slightly better with the use of kunais being dispersed around the battle field. He has summons as well as barriers. Not to mention rasengan. Tobirama has one s/t technique and exploding papers, and a couple fodder suiton jutsu.​

Fodder jutsu.... Tobirama Part 1 Suiton Wall was the size of Part 2 Kisame Water wall... considering the power scaling is different I can only imagine how strong Tobirama suiton is now

 

[Avinash012]

Toads are a huge advantage for Minato, but in the up coming chapter, I think Tobirama will surprise you with a summon.

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- Outspeeding and out reacting Minato in KCM Mode.

He never out speeded Minato....He is analyzng the sittuation while regeneratng and he would have probably notced it when Obito attaced it to Minato so he reacted quickly and made a clone appear near Minato and used that attack on Obito ...

U can't say that he out matched Minato's speed without realizng what actually happend...........

As I have already told u earlier Naruto is one step ahead of Tobirama in this chapter but that dosen't mean that Naruto is smarter than Sasuke,Minato and Tobirama

 

[Nikes]

Alive Minato's body can barely handle the Kyuubi. What makes you think he can master it in that state? Unless you give him 16 years worth of prep time he does not have KCM while he is alive.

That's your speculation. Minato did handle it. So I win that one.

Toads are a huge advantage for Minato, but in the up coming chapter, I think Tobirama will surprise you with a summon.

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- Outspeeding and out reacting Minato in KCM Mode.

I give you that one!.. But also you gotta think about Minato's state of mind. Remember Kabuto whooping Tsunades ass in part 1? She was mentally unstable we know Tsunade would wipe the floor with him either way.

 

[Avinash012]

That's your speculation. Minato did handle it. So I win that one.



I give you that one!.. But also you gotta think about Minato's state of mind. Remember Kabuto whooping Tsunades ass in part 1? She was mentally unstable we know Tsunade would wipe the floor with him either way.

Nah Alive Minato's body can't handel Kyubi's power that's y he was forced to use RDS otherwise he would have sealed entire Kyubi inside him and became Kyubi's Jin....

He didn't born in a blessed clan Like Senju,Uchiha and Uzumaki ...even among them only ppl that can handel a fulpowered Kyubi are Mito,Kushina and Hashirama

 

[Nikes]

Nah Alive Minato's body can't handel Kyubi's power that's y he was forced to use RDS otherwise he would have sealed entire Kyubi inside him and became Kyubi's Jin....

He didn't born in a blessed clan Like Senju,Uchiha and Uzumaki ...even among them only ppl that can handel a fulpowered Kyubi are Mito,Kushina and Hashirama

He made ONE remark, and that is "this chakra is heavy" and he only sealed half inside of himself because an infant can't handle all of that.

 

[Tobby17]

Summons>>>Tobirama.

Rasengan>>>Tobiramas suiton

Minatos FTG profiency>>Tobiramas

I guess intelligence is a toss up right now.

Ok, now that you've listed all these. Please explain to me how the fight will go