Minato got to the battlefield with speed,not FTG.

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In the NV Shunshin is referred to speed this can include both S/T jutsu such as FTG and speed enhanced by chakra such KCM/BM or "Regular Shunshin".The statement said by Tobirama is saying Minato is faster than he is, he was comparing his S/T jutsu which isn't instant to Minato's Shunshin. I believe he wasn't comparing his speed feats to Minato's FTG as Tobirama never had seen it at that moment in time, and Minato first used FTG when teleported to Naruto, as Kishi always gives an indication when Minato uses FTG even when its off screened, this further indicated when the 3rd says Minato lives up to his name "Yellow Flash" which he got via his non FTG speed feats.

What I believe happened was Minato used his "Regular Shunshin" to arrive at the battlefield saw the TBB being formed used "Regular Shunshin" to appear at the island dropped a kunai, went back to battlefield teleported to TBB (Don't know why It took so long for the TBB to appear plot?) placed the Kunais for the Hokages, threw one near Naruto and FTG there and did his talked with Naruto. The Hokages arrive via Tobirama's S/T and as time passed Sasuke and Jugo "Regular Shunshin" there.

 

[Fresco]

I agree. To say that one Hiraishin user can use Hiraishin faster than another would be illogical given that its a S/T technique; thus, its instant. Plus, the technique doesn't work that way at all, requiring seals/tags in advance.

EDIT: I think people are getting confused about Tobirama's Hiraishingiri. It was undoubtedly instantaneous. If we conclude that, then we must also conclude another thing: Tobirama teleported to Izuna and then cut him, not cut him in the process of him teleporting. That would be impossible given that Hiraishin works as a transit. Basically, it worked similar to Shunshin, but it wasn't what Tobirama was talking about in that instance. Hiraishin is something that can't be measured in quantitative terms.

 

[Owarij]

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Everyone's attacking draphsin when he just might be right.. In the manga , teleportation has been called shunshin manytimes... this is just one occurrence of this

 

[Fresco]

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Everyone's attacking draphsin when he just might be right.. In the manga , teleportation has been called shunshin manytimes... this is just one occurrence of this

In the latest chapter, I believe Tobirama was referring to body flicker. From my basic understanding of Hiraishin and S/T techniques in general, they're instant so I don't see how one could go faster than the other version in that sense.

 

[Owarij]

In the latest chapter, I believe Tobirama was referring to body flicker. From my basic understanding of Hiraishin and S/T techniques in general, they're instant so I don't see how one could go faster than the other version in that sense.

that's it , we don't know how tobirama's s/t works... not fully just yet...

But we DO know that there is a potential difference between Minato's and tobiramas

I'm not agreeing with draphsin btw.. just one the one point that he very well may have been talking about s/t...

imo, the hokages all ran there together... Minato was probably faster with his shunshin speed.. and the others arrived at just about the same time a minute or so later

 

[Orange Hokage oF Leaf]

Nope, shunshin can be interpreted as FTG. Tobirama doesnt know what minato's hiraishin is called, so it makes the most sense that tobirama associated hiraishin with shunshin. Rin did the same thing when she was unaware of minato's jutsu name, & also the fact that minato arrived via kunai should seal this theory shut U_U.

what's wrong if minato use kunai or sealing formula for shunshin. i don't think it's impossible for minato he use advance technique may be he developed it with shunshin.

acording to wikia" There has been some confusion in some translations between this and space–time ninjutsu, but these are indeed different techniques, as this technique isn't teleportation, just an extremely swift movement "

so may be you are right or they are right.

 

[ajpn920]

that's it , we don't know how tobirama's s/t works... not fully just yet...

But we DO know that there is a potential difference between Minato's and tobiramas

I'm not agreeing with draphsin btw.. just one the one point that he very well may have been talking about s/t...

imo, the hokages all ran there together... Minato was probably faster with his shunshin speed.. and the others arrived at just about the same time a minute or so later

Right. We don't know how Tobirama's ST tech works but the fact that he has one, it's impossible for him not to know the difference between a ST tech and shunshin. A hokage with ST tech knows the difference between the two. Tobirama saying shunshin means that all of them are using shunshin. It would explain why they did not arrived at the same time. I can't understand why some are arguing with what Tobirama said.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Tobirama comparing the body flicker tech. Because he don't know minato's s/t jutsu. So he thought minato's FTG tech. is the bodyflicker tech.

If you guys still want to say minato is using body flicker tech. Then fine.. Let's take it minato's bodyflicker vs tobirama's bodyflicker. It should be in different thread. Cuz we haven't seen tobirama's bodyflicker speed..

Like I said speed scaling:
BM naruto = minato(speed)
KM naruto > or = minato (speed)

You see minato arrive at the battlefield with the kunai comes first.. And the other one is on the sea.
This shows that minato is using kunai then teleport (he done this rapidly) so it makes sense why there is a kunai on the sea..

 

[edyelectric]

Who cares how got there both tech's are fast

 

[ravindra uchiha]

Most people say Minato got to the battlefield faster than the other kages even Tobirama,becuase of FTG.But it was Shunshin that got him there so fast.

Here Tobirama says Minato's Shunshin is faster than his.Which is refering to Body Flicker.[

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"The Body Flicker is a high-speed movement technique, allowing a ninja to move short to long distances at an almost untraceable speed."

So Minato used pure speed to get to the battlefield.Not FTG.

yeah obviously

 

[Jikukan]

It was shunshin (body flicker) yeah, though there is 1 person who thinks otherwise lol

 

[Shirou Emiya]

yeah it had to be body flicker minato doesnt simply throw a kunai all the way from konoha over to where the battlefield is ....