Minato got to the battlefield with speed,not FTG.

[TrollingSage]

Okay...I never once said that shunshin cant be as fast as teleporting. This actually supports my side because as i said, shunshin can be associated as teleporting, therefore if tobirama called minato's FTG "shunshin" then he could've easily been referring to the teleporting & not foot speed.



Wow what a failed example...donkeys are not associated with horses in this example, shunshin is associated with teleporting, FTG is also associated with teleporting. Therefore if tobirama was talking about shunshin, then he can easily be talking about teleporting. Hence "your shunshin (teleporting) was faster than mine." Tobirama's statement makes perfect sense when I put it that way. However if tobi goes on to say "your shunshin (movemet speed) is faster than mine" then the obvious problem arises; Why didnt tobirama refer to "our" (the hokage's) movement speed instead of only his?


Already rebutted this, minato created rasengan, does he know the name of RS?

Donkeys and horses look alike. But they aren't the same. Just like S/T and shunshin.
Shunshin involves actual movement. Hiraishin doesnt. It was a flawless example. You just fail
Good night.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Ehhh... If minato gose there with pure speed.. I bet you guys have explanation(s) why he use kunai to arrive on the battle field..

Minato was knows as yellow flash, he's fast ( but NOT SUPER FAST!.) add up FTG tech. Makes him the amazing ninja minato.. If you seriously think that without FTG tech. He's super fast I don't see Y dose he needs his kunais to kill 50 ninjas?

Speed scaling: Naruto in BM is fast as minato, in kurama mode naruto must be > or = minato.. Madara was able to block naruto's att. In other words madara can keep up with minato's speed or > minato.

Madara gain his prime body with a modification on wood + riniggan. This means madara was fast as his prime, Everybody knows in his prime Madara using EMS is on par with hashirama's speed.. Meaning madara speed is around hashi's speed who > or = minato.

Also NOW minato got BM that should makes him faster.. Do you really think he can run with his foot to dodge madara's att.??
Like I said why did Kishi shows us minato using his kunai to the battle field?

 

[Draphsin]

1. FTG = Space time tech. It can bend time and space. It makes Minato the fastest man because he can go anywhere where his mark is INSTANTLY.

Irrelevant

Space time technique DOES NOT INVOLVE TIME, therefore speed = ZERO!

Irrelevant

2. By your logic, Sandaime's shunshin pales in comparison with FTG with only a small difference. We all know that sandaime, sasuke and the other's don't have FTG except for Tobirama

Tobi teleported both hokage, they arrived at the exact same time.

3. If Tobirama uses his ST tech on them, how come they did not arrive at the same time. I mean Sasuke came late.

Sasuke & co. were shown to be left behind before the hokage landed on their statues. Minato also

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sasuke on the back/shoulder just like hiruzen when he got teleported, its completely possible that minato somehow reverse summoned sasuke & juugo to the battlefield after he appeared as well.

4. We saw that Minato can teleport beings. Why would he go to the battlefield leaving his comrades behind? Why would Tobirama leaves Sasuke and his company behind. Is Sasuke's shunshin fast enough to compete with a space time technique in such a great distance?

As I said, minato tapped sasuke, its almost certain that he was the reason for sasuke's arrival.

With these info, you can use now your COMMON SENSE! Plain and simple!

Still havent proven anything my friend

Lastly, the evidence there is Tobirama saying they used SHUNSHIN. A Hokage level with a ST tech on his own surely knows the difference between the two.

Fail, minato created the rasengan yet he knows nothing of the name rasenshuriken. Same concept with tobi. He knows his jutsu, but not minato's. As I sated multiple times before, shunshin is associated with teleporting, so tobirama was praising his teleport = FTG speed.

My turn to ask and you better answer.

1. What evidence do you got that they did not use shunshin? Can you give one?

The kunai in front of naruto when minato teleported to it. It was a blatant use of FTG & saying otherwise is completely fanboyish, just look at the pose he's in & it will give you all the info you need....

Also minato was able to get a kunai to an island in the middle of the ocean before the tbb could explode, its laughable to think that he didnt use FTG even once in that scenario, Lol.

2. What made you say that Tobirama doesn't know the difference between Minato's FTG and Shunshin? Can you back it up?

OMFG When did I ever say that tobirama doesnt know the difference between the two??? Stop being purposely daft to avoid the main point. Tobi DOES NOT know what minato calls his jutsu, & shunshin can be associated with teleporting. Therefore going by all this, it makes the most logical & canonical sense as to why he called it shunshin as opposed to anything else.

Can you give me another name for minato's FTG that tobi could've used instead? Didnt think so

Donkeys and horses look alike. But they aren't the same.

Are donkeys associated with horses though? Would you call a donkey a horse if the situation ever arose? No

Just like S/T and shunshin.
Shunshin involves actual movement. Hiraishin doesnt. It was a flawless example. You just fail
Good night.

Shunshin is also referred to as "teleporting" yet you keep denying it Lol. Donkeys are never referred to as horses, so your example gets sh@t on.

GN =D

 

[takiyacrowz]

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[ajpn920]

Irrelevant



Irrelevant



Tobi teleported both hokage, they arrived at the exact same time.



Sasuke & co. were shown to be left behind before the hokage landed on their statues. Minato also

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sasuke on the shoulder just like hiruzen when he got teleported, its completely possible that minato somehow reverse summoned sasuke & juugo to the battlefield after he appeared to.



As I said, minato tapped sasuke on the shoulder, its almost certain that he was the reason for sasuke's arrival.



Still havent proven nothing my friend



Fail, minato created the rasengan yet he knows nothing of the name rasenshuriken. Same concept with tobi. He knows his jutsu, but not minato's. As I sated multiple times before, shunshin is associated with teleporting, so tobirama was praising his teleport = FTG speed.



The kunai in front of naruto when minato teleported to it. It was a blatant use of FTG & saying otherwise is completely fanboyish, just look at the pose he's in & it will give you all the info you need....

Also minato was able to get a kunai to an island in the middle of the ocean before the tbb could explode, its laughable to think that he didnt use FTG even once in that scenario, Lol.



OMFG When did I ever say that tobirama doesnt know the difference between the two??? Stop being purposely daft to avoid the main point. Tobi DOES NOT know what minato calls his jutsu, & shunshin can be associated with teleporting. Therefore going by all this, it makes the most logical & canonical sense as to why he called it shunshin as opposed to anything else.

Can you give me another name for minato's FTG that tobi could've used instead? Didnt think so

Dude. You can't even grasp what is relevance or not. Use common sense dude. If you want to know how the jutsu works then at least know their definition first. GN

 

[Draphsin]

Dude. You can't even grasp what is relevance or not. Use common sense dude. If you want to know how the jutsu works then at least know their definition first. GN

HAHAH youre telling me to use common sense? I advise you to do the same:

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Now, does that look like shunshin or FTG to you? Remember, this is only based on common sense, which you somehow seem to lack.

bb :bye:

 

[TrollingSage]

HAHAH youre telling me to use common sense? I advise you to do the same:

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Now, does that look like shunshin or FTG to you? Remember, this is only based on common sense, which you somehow seem to lack.

bb :bye:

The tbb disappeared before the kunai appeared. Meaning Minato was already there.
BB you enemy of logic and common sense

 

[Draphsin]

The tbb disappeared before the kunai appeared. Meaning Minato was already there.

So? the tbb exploded after minato appeared, does that mean minato's FTG isnt instant? It didnt instantly teleport the tbb according to your timeframe.

BB you enemy of logic and common sense

Not my fault if you cant see clearly, your mind is so warped on proving me wrong that you cant even acknowledge the flaw in this, lmfao.

 

[TrollingSage]

So? the tbb exploded after minato appeared, does that mean minato's FTG isnt instant? It didnt instantly teleport the tbb according to your timeframe.



Not my fault if you cant see clearly, your mind is so warped on proving me wrong that you cant even acknowledge the flaw in this, lmfao.

The tbb exploded a while after Minato teleported it simply because it took a while for it to come in contact with something that will make it explode. The tbb vanishing before Minato's kunai appearing on the battlefield means that wasnt his mode of transport.

 

[Draphsin]

The tbb exploded a while after Minato teleported it simply because it took a while for it to come in contact with something that will make it explode.

No, its shown that after sakura says "whos that" there is a lone kunai in the ocean on an island, then the tbb appears & explodes. Going by your timeframe of things, minato's FTG doesnt teleport instantly because it wasnt until after he arrived that the tbb did what it did.

The tbb vanishing before Minato's kunai appearing on the battlefield means that wasnt his mode of transport.

lol & why not? This is merely your opinion. Minato's FTG is instant, he can easily throw multiple kunai & arrive on the battlefield as the one near naruto hits its mark.

 

[TrollingSage]

No, its shown that after sakura says "whos that" there is a lone kunai in the ocean on an island, then the island explodes. Going by your timeframe of things, minato's FTG doesnt teleport instantly because it wasnt until after he arrived that the tbb did what it did.



lol & why not? This is merely your opinion. Minato's FTG is instant, he can easily throw multiple kunai & arrive on the battlefield as the one near naruto hits its mark.

Seems you're a bit dull. The juubi's tbb plowed through several earthwalls without exploding.
The tbb most likely did the same to the island before exploding, hence the delay.

 

[Draphsin]

Seems you're a bit dull. The juubi's tbb plowed through several earthwalls without exploding.
The tbb most likely did the same to the island before exploding, hence the delay.

Here is your timeframe...

Tbb disappears:

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Minato arrives:

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Tbb appearing near the kunai:

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Going by your logic (which I just noticed) & timeframe, minato can shunshin in the time it takes a tbb to teleport from one kunai to the next? Lol sorry but im inclined to call bs on that.

 

[TrollingSage]

Here is your timeframe...

Tbb disappears:

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Minato arrives:

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Tbb appearing near the kunai:

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Going by your logic (which I just noticed) & timeframe, minato can shunshin in the time it takes a tbb to teleport from one kunai to the next? Lol sorry but im inclined to call bs on that.

The scan doesnt show the tbb appearing near the kunai,it shows exploding near the kunai.
Which means the tbb obviously sank to the bottom of the ocean, before exploding. Fail

 

[iKaras]

Oh Jesus. Y'all becoming as bad as Itachi fan boys.

His base speed?...really?

 

[Draphsin]

The scan doesnt show the tbb appearing near the kunai,it shows exploding near the kunai.
Which means the tbb obviously sank to the bottom of the ocean, before exploding. Fail

Ignorance must be eternally bliss eh?

Look at the first two scans genius, it shows the kunai by itself with no tbb around. So as I said going by your timeframe & poor reasoning, minato would have to be faster on foot speed than his kunai speed. The tbb didnt appear until the third scan, fact.

 

[ajpn920]

The tbb disappeared before the kunai appeared. Meaning Minato was already there.
BB you enemy of logic and common sense

What the hell is this? Can you post the previous page of that. Here is the page before your post. You can see the kunai land.

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If Tobirama said they used shunshin, what's so hard to understand? Are you making your own definition of shunshin?

Again, use common sense at least if you can't use logic..

 

[Kage of the Hood]

they were teleporting other ppl.... body flicker is a one man move.... they weren't carrying the other kage..... this argument is dumb..... it was s/t ....enough

 

[Draphsin]

If Tobirama said they used shunshin, what's so hard to understand? Are you making your own definition of shunshin?

Again, use common sense at least if you can't use logic..

shunshin can be interpreted as teleporting, tobirama compared minato's teleportation to his own. Common sense shows that minato used FTG to appear next to his kunai, so you are lacking in that department if you think he used shunshin at that point

 

[Mellanoma]

Most people say Minato got to the battlefield faster than the other kages even Tobirama,becuase of FTG.But it was Shunshin that got him there so fast.

Here Tobirama says Minato's Shunshin is faster than his.Which is refering to Body Flicker.[

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"The Body Flicker is a high-speed movement technique, allowing a ninja to move short to long distances at an almost untraceable speed."

So Minato used pure speed to get to the battlefield.Not FTG.

Nah considering he had a kunai placed in the ocean already.. We can assume what he really did was Throw kunai as far as he can teleport, throw another, teleport , throw another, teleport

 

[The ProphecY]

shunshin can be interpreted as teleporting, tobirama compared minato's teleportation to his own. Common sense shows that minato used FTG to appear next to his kunai, so you are lacking in that department if you think he used shunshin at that point

I think we'll have to wait for the proper translation... But as for Tobirama misinterpreting Shunshin from S/T tech