Minato can't attack a maintained Susanoo user.

[OnPoint]

Re: Minato can teleport can attack a maintained Susanoo user.

Each layer is spawned at crazy speeds. What I'm proving is that it is there all the time and being maintained. It is the reason why you always see it while it's being deformed for whatever reason.

Stamina = chakra. In the databooks people with high stamina usually have high chakra. Kakashi proves this and because of his low stamina/chakra he can barely use most of his techs without passing out.

Stamina= chakra
Stamina = chakra

Loss of blood,aches and pains all effect your stamina. Thusfore effecting your chakra.

Where is the proof EMS users have more stamina while using MS techniques than MS users just becaue of Susanoo layers? That is really idiotic.

EMS gets rid of loss of sight and other painful side effects from techniques. Thus saving chakra/stamina

- Not with EMS users, but we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
- Not necessarily. Kakashi passess out due to his low chakra reserves, not due to his low stamina per say, as stamina is basically human fitness. Stamina is actually a misused term here. That's like saying Gai is using up chakra when he goes on his 40 handstand laps around Konoha, when, in truth, that is just him having good stamina and being at the peak of human fitness.
- I won't be agreeing on the blood/stamina idea either. If you get a small cut in a battle, you lose stamina and therefore chakra? Nah.

 

[belikemike43]

if minato managed to tag sasuke and teleport in his susano'o, sasuke would have to compensate for the space minato is taking up because im pretty sure minato would still teleport there regardless of the space. and even if he didnt he could just hit sasuke through the ribcage like the raikage.

 

[Gold Lightning]

So don't get the point of this thread.

if Minato places a seal on Sasuke before Susanoo forms then you're saying he can't get in right. So what would happen to minato if he teleported to Sasuke in Susanoo form?

 

[Dantee]

if minato managed to tag sasuke and teleport in his susano'o, sasuke would have to compensate for the space minato is taking up because im pretty sure minato would still teleport there regardless of the space. and even if he didnt he could just hit sasuke through the ribcage like the raikage.

Sasuke would have to compensate for the space of Minato? That's not possible. Ribcage goes around the user and only the user. Two people inside a ribcage has never been shown.

Simple techniques like Rasengan and kunai have already been shown to be ineffective against a Susanoo user. That's not the point of this thread.

So don't get the point of this thread.

if Minato places a seal on Sasuke before Susanoo forms then you're saying he can't get in right. So what would happen to minato if he teleported to Sasuke in Susanoo form?

You're confusing me. The point of this thread is showing that all layers of Susanoo are being used at once. Minato can't get through ribcage because there is no space for him to teleport into.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Re: Minato can teleport can attack a maintained Susanoo user.

- Then Sasuke shouldn't have room to breathe or even move in the rib cage form, if it's so small.
- This implies Sasuke is maintaing all 4 layers at the same time, though you didn't show that with his most recent form of Susanoo, which would explain why the EMS reduces the chakra drain on the user, because they aren't having to maintain all layers.
- Minato can multi Hirashin through the layers, no biggy. If he gets through one layer, how will Sasuke attack him if he's controlling the layer outside?

If what you think about no layers is correct then someone wouldn't need EMS to do that.

The ribs move with the user when only they are present so the same goes for a full Susanoo.

The point is that if Minato was able to teleport through the solid objects within his radius then there wouldn't be any space inbetween the layers. He would teleport and be crushed or impaled by the ribs.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Sasuke would have to compensate for the space of Minato? That's not possible. Ribcage goes around the user and only the user. Two people inside a ribcage has never been shown.

Simple techniques like Rasengan and kunai have already been shown to be ineffective against a Susanoo user. That's not the point of this thread.



You're confusing me. The point of this thread is showing that all layers of Susanoo are being used at once. Minato can't get through ribcage because there is no space for him to teleport into.

So you're suggesting minato cannot possibly beat a Susanoo user right?

 

[Dantee]

So you're suggesting minato cannot possibly beat a Susanoo user right?

No!. I'm saying he can't teleport inside one.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

if minato managed to tag sasuke and teleport in his susano'o, sasuke would have to compensate for the space minato is taking up because im pretty sure minato would still teleport there regardless of the space. and even if he didnt he could just hit sasuke through the ribcage like the raikage.

A never landed a successful hit to Sasuke himself. with the Susanoo ribs up. Even Mei's Lave style couldn't get through the rib spaces, so that means that the aura protects him as well.

 

[belikemike43]

Well there is no proof for either of our arguments but Minato would most likely teleport regardless of space restrictions. What do you expect to happen to him if he tries?

 

[Dantee]

Well there is no proof for either of our arguments but Minato would most likely teleport regardless of space restrictions. What do you expect to happen to him if he tries?

That's like saying Minato can teleport inside the cracks of a wall. Do you think he can do that without being splattered.

 

[Shikamaru1994]

Susanoo is completely ineffective against minato and vice versa. Although minato has no way of attacking someone inside Susanoo, there's no way someone can attack Minato inside susanoo. As seen in the 5 kage fight with Madara, the susanoo makes you slower the bigger it becomes. Therefore, no attack can reach minato because he will just teleport. However, the most important aspect comes from the chakra usage. Susanoo requires an ENORMOUS amount of chakra to be able to use while FTG requires virtually nothing. Therefore, if an uchiha is to use susanoo against minato, it would not be in their favour since Minato can let the fight drag on for as long as he wants to.

 

[Gold Lightning]

No!. I'm saying he can't teleport inside one.

Well that's why I don't get the point of the thread, so what if he can't. He'll find another way around it in the end even if he can't get through. He's dead anyway so I dunno why it matters.

 

[belikemike43]

A never landed a successful hit to Sasuke himself. with the Susanoo ribs up. Even Mei's Lave style couldn't get through the rib spaces, so that means that the aura protects him as well.

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it is even said later i forget by who, that he was hit in the neck.

 

[belikemike43]

That's like saying Minato can teleport inside the cracks of a wall. Do you think he can do that without being splattered.

comparing the space inside the susano'o is like a crack in a wall is a huge exaggeration. it is small but it looks like if you tried you could fit two people in it. it would be a tight fit but it looks like there is enough room.

 

[Dantee]

Well that's why I don't get the point of the thread, so what if he can't. He'll find another way around it in the end even if he can't get through. He's dead anyway so I dunno why it matters.

No you get the point you are just ignoring what I wrote and talking about why you think Minato would beat Sasuke. See the title of my thread that is the point I'm trying to prove. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Gold Lightning]

No you get the point you are just ignoring what I wrote and talking about why you think Minato would beat Sasuke. See the title of my thread that is the point I'm trying to prove. Nothing more nothing less.

I do get your point, you made a thread about how a dead Hokage will not be able to fit into the space of Minato's ribcage. So unless minato and Sasuke are fighting i don't see any reason why. Into would want to snuggle up so close to Sasuke.

So you're telling me minato can't fit into Susanoo.... Well OK then, so what. What is the importance of this, for what reason have you made this thread????

It's like someone coming up to me and saying you can fit into this whole in the wall. I'll just say ok, so what? What was the point of that statement?That's what I'm trying to find out, if it has nothing to do with them fighting

Edit: where did I say anything about minato beating Sasuke, I said he can probably find another way round Susanoo. I never used the word beat, defeat or kill did I.

 

[Dantee]

I do get your point, you made a thread about how a dead Hokage will not be able to fit into the space of Minato's ribcage. So unless minato and Sasuke are fighting i don't see any reason why. Into would want to snuggle up so close to Sasuke.

So you're telling me minato can't fit into Susanoo.... Well OK then, so what. What is the importance of this, for what reason have you made this thread????

It's like someone coming up to me and saying you can fit into this whole in the wall. I'll just say ok, so what? What was the point of that statement?

Edit: where did I say anything about minato beating Sasuke, I said he can probably find another way round Susanoo. I never used the word beat, defeat or kill did I.
That's what I'm trying to find out, if it has nothing to do with them fighting.

It's a common misconception being used that Minato can simply teleport into Susanoo and finish someone off. I'm ending that myth.

comparing the space inside the susano'o is like a crack in a wall is a huge exaggeration. it is small but it looks like if you tried you could fit two people in it. it would be a tight fit but it looks like there is enough room.

No it's not much of an exaggeration at all. If you can't fit somewhere you can't be there. The ribcage is only enough to fit one person. You can clearly see how thin it is. Only enough to fit the user.

 

[Gold Lightning]

It's a common misconception being used that Minato can simply teleport into Susanoo and finish someone off. I'm ending that myth.

Well if that's all what can I really say, Susanoo looks pretty spacious inside to me.

 

[Dantee]

Well if that's all what can I really say, Susanoo looks pretty spacious inside to me.

Then thats where you need to reread the thread. It's not spacious at all there are layers that formed inside the Susanoo. Minato can't fit inside the layers therefore he can't fit inside Susanoo.

 

[Gold Lightning]

But the layers always seem to disappear when he goes full Susanoo.

Look at this vid, I see loads of space and no layers at all:

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