Minato>8 Gate Gai Speed

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What Minato did in that situation was FTG and the real funny thing is that Guy was moving at hyper-sonic speeds and yet the kunai that Lee threw was so fast that everything was like frozen in time... LOL

FTG is instant, so no fault there.


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Nice try spreading bad image of Minato group...
Minato's top most foot speed is on par with Naruto's BM, because it's heavily implied...
 

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8 Gates Gai is much faster than Base Minato with his FTG. Minato can't bend space and time whereas Gai can. In terms of raw speed nothing comes close to 8 Gates Gai's speed.
 

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Oh look. Another genius- thinking teleportation = speed.
Oh Look, another genius thinking teleportation occurs automatically.
If you can't react fast enough then you can't teleport in time.
Put any non-Rikudo buffed character in Minato's place & either Gai's punch or Madara's TSB would go through their asses before they can even think!
 

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Jesus too many of my people in this thread went fully loaded on this guy :lol. Shoutout to them all...It was a fun thread to read. Funny posts as well. Can't remember the last time I went hard for Gai but people really get the gist now.

7th Gate Gai is at least on par with him let alone the 8th Gate.

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Another killer

I see the thread didn't last too long..

Same here man..Like 2 post kills it that fast?

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Lmao GG.

Lol gai is above minato. Minato in KCM was easily countered by juubito(who is slower than madara let alone gai) let alone base minato

We've been saying the since but oh well.

I was glad when you guys were finally silent.


Word haha..Catch you on Skype later.

8 Gates Gai is much faster than Base Minato with his FTG. Minato can't bend space and time whereas Gai can. In terms of raw speed nothing comes close to 8 Gates Gai's speed.

They won't listen trust me



Oh Look, another genius thinking teleportation occurs automatically.
If you can't react fast enough then you can't teleport in time.
Put any non-Rikudo buffed character in Minato's place & either Gai's punch or Madara's TSB would go through their asses before they can even think!

But you agree 8G Gai> Minato in speed

Yes, Gai>BM Minato in speed.


They won't listen sigh
 

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Minato's base speed is one of the fastest, I see it being faster than 7th gate Gai but not 8th. SM Minato who I can see being faster than 8th gate Gai. As for scans of Edo Minato going against JJ Madara, you probably forgot the fact that Edo's are weaker than when they were alive and even Madara shown to be faster after being revived than when he was an Edo. So comparing a weaker Minato to an alive Gai is a fail comparison.

I will now explain why I think SM Minato is faster. Senjutsu awakens your body (as Pa toad put it) by enhancing your physical capabilities. Minato's base speed would increase to the same limit as his strength which in base was strong enough to nearly cut through Bee's tentacle with no leverage. So Minato's base speed will be really high up there, now when you add Senjutsu which increase the power of all Justus and the higher reserve Minato would have; his Shunshin would be made stronger plus he has more chakra that he can focus in speed.

Oh and Edo Minato had his chakra absorbed by the Shinju a bit before going SM so it's not like he could use Shunshin as well as a full replenished Minato.
 

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But you agree 8G Gai> Minato in speed
Well yes, Gai kicked Madara's butt when Minato failed to do so...
But you should consider 2 things...
1)Minato was an Edo.
2)Gai removed the limits of his body thus he was beyond human capabilities.
Nevertheless the feat Minato showed (warping in & out between Madara & Gai) is praiseworthy.
 
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Well yes, Gai kicked Madara's butt when Minato failed to do so...
But you should consider 2 things...
1)Minato was an Edo.
2)Gai removed the limits of his body thus he was beyond human capabilities.
Nevertheless the feat Minato showed (warping in & out between Madara & Gai) is praiseworthy.

That whole scene seemed unlikely though. Gai, who was distorting space itself, couldn't move faster than the kunai that was thrown at him. With the speeds he was going, he literally should've went face first into the TSB, unless he could react fast enough to dodge it.
 

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The whole bending space thing was nonsense to me. Because we've seen ninja and objects travel faster than what kishi drew with Gai there. Madara even having time to think and mutter multiple words before Gai even reached him. Even the anime made it look slow as hell. Still is inferior to instant, so not sure what some people are still arguing for.

Minato has better shunshin. Gai has better foot/running speed and striking speed.
 

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That whole scene seemed unlikely though. Gai, who was distorting space itself, couldn't move faster than the kunai that was thrown at him. With the speeds he was going, he literally should've went face first into the TSB, unless he could react fast enough to dodge it.
Lee wasn't behind Gai so the Kunai didn't have to be faster or traveling the same distance or more in order to reach Gai...
Intercepting someone's attack doesn't mean you're faster than him/her.
 
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Lee wasn't behind Gai so the Kunai didn't have to be faster or traveling the same distance or more in order to reach Gai...
Intercepting someone's attack doesn't mean you're faster than him/her.

Assuming that Gais speed is as good as its hyped to be, even though Lee threw it from the side it still should've been too slow to intercept either attacks. On the episode, he chunked the Kunai a pretty good distance. I would assume that Gai could cover his own distance from him to Madara significantly quicker than the Kunai would make it to between them. People here are comparing Gais speed with Minatos FTG. So that shows that his speed is insanely high, so he should've been traveling faster than the Kunai, no matter where it came from.
 

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Well yes, Gai kicked Madara's butt when Minato failed to do so...
But you should consider 2 things...
1)Minato was an Edo.
2)Gai removed the limits of his body thus he was beyond human capabilities.
Nevertheless the feat Minato showed (warping in & out between Madara & Gai) is praiseworthy.

Lol stop making excuses. As if Minato being alive would've changed anything. :lol

And how is that feat praiseworthy? If it had been a full speed Gai it would've been praiseworthy.....but it wasn't.
 

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Lol stop making excuses. As if Minato being alive would've changed anything. :lol

And how is that feat praiseworthy? If it had been a full speed Gai it would've been praiseworthy.....but it wasn't.
You're yet to prove Gai wasn't at full speed...
EE's fifth step is the fastest step & Minato told Gai to continue no matter what...if Gai slowed down then what was the point of the attack? Madara would block/dodge it if it wasn't a full speed attack.
Inb4 "the Kunai reached Gai & Gaara's sand was keeping up"
As I said above Lee wasn't behind Gai so the Kunai didn't have to be faster or traveling the same distance or more in order to reach Gai...
As for Gaara, he said my sand isn't fast enough to keep up & then Minato said Kakashi will carry one of my Kunais! What was the point of carrying a Kunai other than being warped by Minato along with Gaara's sand?
Inb4 "Minato didn't have a marking that he could warp Kakashi there."
Minato FTG mark has a radius & we know he can warp people/objects along with himself so it is highly possible that Minato warped Kakashi along with Gaara's sand at the same time that he warped himself in between Gai & Madara.
 
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You're yet to prove Gai wasn't at full speed...
EE's fifth step is the fastest step & Minato told Gai to continue no matter what...if Gai slowed down then what was the point of the attack? Madara would block/dodge it if it wasn't a full spped attack.
Inb4 "the Kunai reached Gai & Gaara's sand was keeping up"
As I said above Lee wasn't behind Gai so the Kunai didn't have to be faster or traveling the same distance or more in order to reach Gai...
As for Gaara, he said my sand isn't fast enough to keep up & then Minato said Kakashi will carry one of my Kunais! What was the point of carrying a Kunai other than being warpped by Minato along with Gaara's sand?
Inb4 "Minato didn't have marking that he could warp Kakashi there."
Minato FTG mark has a radius & we know he can warp people/objects along with himself so it is highly possible that Minato warpped Kakashi along with Gaara's sand at the same time that he warpped himseld in between Gai & Madara.

And you wonder why no one takes Minato fans seriously. If you think Gaara's Sand is on par with Gai's top speed then do me a favor and log out. This argument has been had too many times in the past for you people to still be wanking this clown.



That is Gai running at max speed.

"Madara would block/dodge it" is a dumb assertion considering when Gai started the charge, Madara wrapped himself in the Gudo Dama, thus he was incapable of moving regardless of the speed.

-Kunai is irrelevant.
-Kakashi was told to hold Minato's Kunai so Minato could protect him from Madara's attacks by warping in front of them. Holding a Kunai doesn't let Minato teleport people wherever he wants.

And the rest is your baseless assumption, one that makes no sense.

1. We can clearly see Gaara controlling his sand.


2. If he warped them then they would be seen near him after the warp. Not to mention he has to be touching them with his chakra to warp them. If we was touching them, then they all would've appeared at the same exact place.

Stop wanking Minato. It's getting pretty ridiculous.
 

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Lol gai is above minato. Minato in KCM was easily countered by juubito(who is slower than madara let alone gai) let alone base minato

You make it sound like Edo KM Minato was even using full speed; it's obvious that all Edo Hokages were nerfed to make Naruto and Sasuke shine and there's even a chapter title calling them the main stars. If Naruto's KM full speed was compared to Minato's then Minato, who is faster than base Naruto's speed would be far faster. Shunshin speed and distance is determined by the amount of chakra you use; 8th gate Gai does not have more chakra than KM Minato, nowhere close to it, let alone BM. JJ Obito and JJ Madara can both move faster than Gai if they actually wanted to, they only need to use more chakra in their Shunshin which both of them know how to do but didn't for plot.

What Minato did in that situation was FTG and the real funny thing is that Guy was moving at hyper-sonic speeds and yet the kunai that Lee threw was so fast that everything was like frozen in time... LOL

FTG is instant, so no fault there.


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Minato's top most foot speed is on par with Naruto's BM, because it's heavily implied...

Naruto's KM full speed was compared to Minato's FTG, it's referred to as "like a flash" which is what FTG does for Minato as he teleport between his Kunais. In Kakashi Gaiden, Minato was preparing to take out a whole platoon himself and another Konoha ninja told a comrade not to blink. Minato's Shunshin is fast enough to react to A's fastest speed but SM is what would put his Shunshin above A's.

8 Gates Gai is much faster than Base Minato with his FTG. Minato can't bend space and time whereas Gai can. In terms of raw speed nothing comes close to 8 Gates Gai's speed.

Gai speed is nothing to KM Naruto, JJ Obito, JJ Madara, or Kaguya; Shunshin speed is determine by how much chakra you use and all those I mentioned have far more chakra. Gai and Lee do use Shunshin, they gain more speed after removing their chakra limiters. Gai gained more power than speed, Madara had only 1 eye and was tracking his speed but due to nerf Madara didn't really do anything to neg Gai as we all know he can do. BT and slash him with TSB, Susanoo, limbo, yin lightning, ST, Katon jutsus, summon a barrier like JJ Obito and set off TBBs inside...

Yes, Gai>BM Minato in speed.

No lol KM Naruto was compared to FTG speed and you think Minato who is faster than war arc Naruto in their base Shunshin, is going to be faster than KM Minato? Shunshin speed is determine by chakra; Edo Minato had his chakra absorbed by the god tree minutes before Madara became the JJ so of course he wouldn't be using high level Shunshin plus being an Edo makes him weaker than his normal stats.

That whole scene seemed unlikely though. Gai, who was distorting space itself, couldn't move faster than the kunai that was thrown at him. With the speeds he was going, he literally should've went face first into the TSB, unless he could react fast enough to dodge it.

Unless it was more power than speed, a Kunai shouldn't be intercepting him when thrown much later than Gai took off and he was going full speed since Edo Minato told him to keep going no matter what. Base Minato moves faster than Gai if that's the case since he moves faster than a Kunai. Anyways I believed SM Minato is faster than Gai in 8th gates due to Senjutsu powering up all jutsus, enhancing his base speed as it does physical strength, and gives him a larger reserve.

Lol stop making excuses. As if Minato being alive would've changed anything. :lol

And how is that feat praiseworthy? If it had been a full speed Gai it would've been praiseworthy.....but it wasn't.

Except that it would, Madara moved faster after he was revived than Edo Madara since Edo Hashirama mentions Madara having his old powers after Madara used Shunshin to knock Naruto and Sai down. Madara even told Edo Tobirama that he and Hashirama are no longer a match for him since they can't access their real power. Gai was going full speed, Edo Minato told him not to stop for anything and Gai was going in full force at Madara. SM Minato is faster than Gai from how I see it, if 7th gate is below A's speed then I don't see him being faster than SM Minato who base speed would increase to the same amount his physical strength does from Senjutsu plus Senjutsu makes all jutsus stronger which includes Shunshin plus he has a increase in reserve which allows him to use more chakra in Shunshin to further augment his speed. Also if he uses his sensory ability then it increases his reaction and attacking speed since he could sense how his opponents would react or do next.

Lee wasn't behind Gai so the Kunai didn't have to be faster or traveling the same distance or more in order to reach Gai...
Intercepting someone's attack doesn't mean you're faster than him/her.

That's like saying a person can throw a baseball to intercept a bullet after the bullet is shot seconds before. If Gai was that fast then nothing but a faster object should be intercepting him. If the object was already about to get into Gai's path long before he got there then that's when what you said applies but the Kunai was thrown from behind Gai (Lee was behind him to the side) and that makes no sense which is why I say Gai is more power than speed.
 
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