[Suggestion] Merger Of Chatterbox X General Section and Other forums

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

As an observer, I see a Dilemma in the current division of forums and sub-forums.

Following the Closure of Registrations, the Quantity, Time, and Quality of Activity has considerably decreased, therefore increased Quantity of forums would mean less activity in each.

Let me explain what I mean:

Take the General and Chatterbox for instance, two seperate sections "with similar topics" yet one is almost completely Neglected while the other is constant in activity.

If I were to post a thread in Chatterbox, it would hardly get any replies "regardless of Quality" and I would re-post that same thread in the General section, its number of replies would increase several folds.

Another Example would be the Manga, Anime & Comics Section:

Someone made a thread regarding a specific topic in that section today, and it barely got 20 replies, sometime after another thread with the exact same Topic was posted only in a different section and it got over 90 replies!

Same goes for TV / Movies Section Sports, Gaming, Music. and Versus Section - any post there could take hours to get a reply, but if you post it in a more popular section, you almost immediately get a reply!

I've seen members post all kinds of unrelated topics in naruto discussions section simply because it offers the most activity.


A Few examples on the Consequences I see following this little dilemma


1-It is somewhat unfair to thread starters in those neglected sections for their efforts to go unnoticed due to lack of popularity of their section
2-Naturally members will want to post in the section which provides faster responses, so there will be an increase in deliberated wrong sections "rule breaking"
3-Decrease in motivation among members due to feeling ignored/unnoticed - due to so few activity in their specific section
4-Decrease in number of interesting Topics
5-Increase in number of Similar topics
6-Confusion in picking the right section among so many similar
7-Increase in Boredom and lack of interest among members

etc...

I see The Butterfly Effect in motion here, and I suggest a re-examination of this matter..

Perhaps a Merger of General and Chatterbox sections? or at least TV/Movies, Music, Gaming, Sport section? - as I see most topics related to the latter sections posted in general section anyway.

I hope this suggestion was somewhat helpful. Thank you for your time.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I see your point, but no. Please, no.

Those people who post in the wrong section are either stupid, people who made a mistake, or just wanting attention, as you said. Still doesn't call for a merger. Even though people may not follow the rules, still gotta be organized or atleast I prefer it that way. The forum looks better too. If you want music, go to music. If you want to have a fun nothing thread about a cat, go to chatterbox. I actually believe only a few amount of people don't follow these rules, so your point is very low from my experienced. All seems okay to me.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

I see your point, but no. Please, no.

Those people who post in the wrong section are either stupid, people who made a mistake, or just wanting attention, as you said. Still doesn't call for a merger. Even though people may not follow the rules, still gotta be organized or atleast I prefer it that way. The forum looks better too. If you want music, go to music. If you want to have a fun nothing thread about a cat, go to chatterbox. I actually believe only a few amount of people don't follow these rules, so your point is very low from my experienced. All seems okay to me.

that is because you mostly follow the general section/chatterbox unbeknown of whats going on in the other sections

like I said I post a topic in one of these neglected sections, I get a few to no replies, I post the same topic in one of the more popular yet similar sections and i get a 100 - if you count that as a low point, then I'd hate to see the high point of this conversation.

 

[Jack Spicer]

that is because you mostly follow the general section/chatterbox unbeknown of whats going on in the other threads

like I said I post a topic in one of these neglected sections, I get a few to no replies, I post the same topic in one of the more popular yet similar sections and i get a 100 - if you count that as a low point, then I'd hate to see the high point of this conversation.

Yeah, I'm the shit.

Well, here's this. The most active thing here is the Naruto sections, but that doesn't mean we should post pictures of our dog in those sections because it gets more views or replies. I mean, that's basically what you're saying. Just merge it so it can be seen my more people. Trust me, the people who want to talk about Naruto, the people who want to talk about music or videos or games, they are the ones who hang around in that section and make an effort to go there.

 

[Sjhsgjhsgjshjshjsh]

I know that feeling

But still i hope it stays the way it is (no merging please)



If you seek attention for your thread

You can always be creative with the tite .

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Yeah, I'm the shit.

Well, here's this. The most active thing here is the Naruto sections, but that doesn't mean we should post pictures of our dog in those sections because it gets more views or replies. I mean, that's basically what you're saying. Just merge it so it can be seen my more people. Trust me, the people who want to talk about Naruto, the people who want to talk about music or videos or games, they are the ones who hang around in that section and make an effort to go there.

Yes those who actually post in those sections are genuinely interested at the moment, but that doesnt mean the rest arent or that they know little about it

for example: I posted a question regarding a certain movie in the Tv section "which i genuinly needed to know at the time" - yet I barely recieved 1 or two replies with the tagline "have no clue" and by the time the section was even remotely active, similar little comments in the different threads had already buried my question thread - so I started posting such topics in the more active sections that hold similar topics, and my questions were answered in no time - this has happened to me recurringly

activity is of vital importance in all sections, and having too many of them that holds similar or related topics is both confusing and demotivating.

Its not a matter of attention, its a matter of feedback. The whole purpose of a forum in its entirety is communication and feedback.

regardless of how you feel about it, I see a dilemma here that needs to be straightened, which is why I present my case to staff, not you.

 

[Hori]

Agreed you know there is a lot of Quality threads in Bleach and One Piece section but the problem is there are annoying threads like "should I start watching OP or Bleach??" But a merger?? it will help but will cause someone to complain in the end

 

[itachi uchiha fiance]

i am completely agree with u

 

[Avani]

Threads when segregated according to the topic get more and better visibility in their proper section. You can see 30 of them on the first page it self +relevant stickies.

Mix them all up and it will take forever to look for the kind of thread a user is looking. People need to get smarter and use Today's topic and new post ( this one works only if registered) buttons instead of looking at home age for new topics.

If a thread is not getting enough attention it's usually because it's not interesting enough. Rule breaking threads may get more attention but usually it's just spam and they get deleted.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

It is generally a different story, as the chatterbox threads never appear on the homepage "latest threads", thus receiving lesser views, thus receiving lesser replies.


I don't think that many members even know that this section is used for discussing other types of manga/anime. It's common that members post those discussions in Naruto Discussion too. Which is against the rules as posting in the wrong section continuously could be seen as spam.



I personally disagree with TV/Movies, Music and Gaming discussion. I think they're quite popular. Gaming, not as much.

Threads when segregated according to the topic get more and better visibility in their proper section. You can see 30 of them on the first page it self +relevant stickies.

Mix them all up and it will take forever to look for the kind of thread a user is looking. People need to get smarter and use Today's topic and new post ( this one works only if registered) buttons instead of looking at home age for new topics.

If a thread is not getting enough attention it's usually because it's not interesting enough. Rule breaking threads may get more attention but usually it's just spam and they get deleted.

I personally don't see this as a great idea as for one, it would require alot of mods to stample together their sections of moderation. Not to mention, i don't really see a valid enough reason to merge them as i think most sub-forums get descent amount of replies scattered around. There is no hiding about the fact that ND is by far the biggest section where there's about 10x more viewers than in the other subforums. I don't think a merge would make all those members look into a one giant blurry section with a whole bunch of different small..subsections.. in it. The decrease of interest in the sections you're talking about i'd say can only be solved with more interest, not a whole merge of sections. Btw i could suggest that Chatterbox threads should be available to see on the homepage though as they're the only one's that doesn't.

Yes there are some valid points here that I cant disagree with, but as in most cases there are two sides to look at here, the good, and the bad about having so many differential sections. There is the actual consequences and then there is our personal view upon it, which brings me to my point: such matters cant be known or understood until tested and thoroughly examined, as there are a good many factors that decide the activity rate in each section, however there are some common symptoms that may hint negligence in the sections I mentioned, for instance the fact that two identical threads posted not so long after one another could have such considerable difference in number of replies, and believe me ive seen this happen repeatedly so I've taken a personal interest in knowing the actual cause, and while everything you stated are undoubtedly contributing factors i dont believe they present the main issues, the main causes as I see it are the following:

1-Closing registrations "greatly decreasing the number of visitors/active members in total" while the number of sections remaining the same if not increasing -> the less members and the more sections, the division between each section's momental and continual activity naturally decreases

2-having a general section, chatterbox, and tv/movies, music, gaming at the same time - while having so few active members. I understand that each of these sections essentially have different functions but most people dont see the difference between these functions being "it presenting universal topics", therefore feel just as comfortable talking about sports or music in the general section or the chatterbox, and seeing they get more feedback in those particular sections, naturally they are gravitated towards it and driven from the more neglected ones. I speak both from a universal view and of course my own feeling towards the matter, and I cant be the only one to feel this way.

Given you are members of staff, I understand that you try to think about this in a more proffessional manner, and try to avoid unnecessary changes as much as possible, I'd do the same, but I think this is a case worth examining over a longer period of time, and unless you plan on re opening registrations, I believe this will only worsen.

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