Mei vs Hebi

[Apêx1]

Hebi takes first thanks to curse mark 2 def not feeling any pain from chemical change damage (and his rapid healing). Chakra cannon puts a hole through the mist where sasuke can also speed in the gap to get closer. Snakes help tell where her location is at all times. If any water Jutsu is used, suegetsu blitz and head shots no diff.

-It's an indoor location, Chakra blasts don't disperse the acidic molecules in the air since new ones will be pushed into the space that was being opened.
-Sasuke's ribcge Susano was being melted, him not feeling any pain let alone not melting away is ludicrous.
-Snakes are restricted since they are summons.
-Suigetsu melts away, nor does Mei need to use Suiton.
-Hidden mist added to the acidic environment makes it impossible to perceive. Lava globs on the floor and Acid mist all melt Hebi away.

 

[Rιver]

-It's an indoor location, Chakra blasts don't disperse the acidic molecules in the air since new ones will be pushed into the space that was being opened.
-Sasuke's ribcge Susano was being melted, him not feeling any pain let alone not melting away is ludicrous.
-Snakes are restricted since they are summons.
-Suigetsu melts away, nor does Mei need to use Suiton.
-Hidden mist added to the acidic environment makes it impossible to perceive. Lava globs on the floor and Acid mist all melt Hebi away.

How does water melt? How odd. And how is it possible to perceive? They have a sensor in their team.

 

[Apêx1]

How does water melt? How odd. And how is it possible to perceive? They have a sensor in their team.

What? Trying to bring science into this when Suigetsu has begun melting from mere chakra presence? How odd. True, doens't change the fact they can do nothing about it because they melt the second they make contact with her Acid Mist.

 

[Rιver]

What? Trying to bring science into this when Suigetsu has begun melting from mere chakra presence? How odd. True, doens't change the fact they can do nothing about it because they melt the second they make contact with her Acid Mist.

That's not melting. It's liquefaction. He turned to liquid, which he can do at any time. But he wasn't harmed. How on earth can water melt? There's no science needed to understand that water doesn't melt.

If I brought science into this, I could say that water makes acid less acidic. But I'm not.

From 100 meters? Yes, they will. Or Sasuke flies out in an open area with multiple Katon's fired at the roof, Karin restrains her with chains or Sasuke counters it with shedding.

 

[Apêx1]

That's not melting. It's liquefaction. He turned to liquid, which he can do at any time. But he wasn't harmed. How on earth can water melt? There's no science needed to understand that water doesn't melt.

If I brought science into this, I could say that water makes acid less acidic. But I'm not.

From 100 meters? Yes, they will. Or Sasuke flies out in an open area with multiple Katon's fired at the roof, Karin restrains her with chains or Sasuke counters it with shedding.

What? That wasn't a liquefaction, it was portrayed as him melting. Water can't melt in our world, doesn't imply someone whose composed of water cannot in the Naruto world.

Bring it in, how does it help when Mei is the one controlling her pH levels?

Implying Sasuke's Katons can touch Mei's level of Suiton, let alone the fact she can dodge if he's that far. Implying Karin's chains have the durability feats to allow them to stay in tact after coming into contact with the acid mist, when Ribcage Susano was melting. Sasuke shredding won't help when he's still in the AOE of Acid Mist, thus melts again.

 

[DrProof]

Acid Mist doesn't instantly turn him into nothingness. If anything it will slowly apply like 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd etc burns. Even before Mei uses such Sasuke would have already gained need distance for the blitz. Remember Sasuke's astonishing, and surprising speed against a Deidara/Tobi who were literally facing, talking, and had a distance greater or equal to 100 meters?:

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Check out the exclamation marks over Deidara (showing surprise, and an unexpected action), what's really crazy is that Sasuke actually struck Tobi instead of Deidara who was a a foot or less behind Deidara seemingly insulting Deidara with an indirect gesture: "This could have been you".

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I honestly see Mei getting 100% blitzed once Sasuke reaches Mid-Range (even though in the scans I posted below shows Sasuke blitzed at Long-Range). That's all I'm saying.

 

[LuckyMan]

Hashirama clashed in canon with Madara. How would Hashirama stalemate with him if Hashirama was slower?

Speed does not matter when 2 people are clashing because they are moving towards one another and would ultimately meet at some point anyway. We can't judge how fast they are from that especially in Madara and Hashiramas case since we don't know where they were and the distance they went, we just see them clash swords then retreat.

Even when we know where they are, its still not a valid feat because like I said, they would ultimately meet anyway. For example, Base Bee clashing with V2 Ay does not mean Bee is faster or has better speed and reactions nor does it mean they are on par in those categories because we know Ay is faster at moving but Bee is faster at reactions and fight speed, not because of that panel of them clashing but because of the feats they have shown.

 

[Rιver]

What? That wasn't a liquefaction, it was portrayed as him melting. Water can't melt in our world, doesn't imply someone whose composed of water cannot in the Naruto world.

Bring it in, how does it help when Mei is the one controlling her pH levels?

Implying Sasuke's Katons can touch Mei's level of Suiton, let alone the fact she can dodge if he's that far. Implying Karin's chains have the durability feats to allow them to stay in tact after coming into contact with the acid mist, when Ribcage Susano was melting. Sasuke shredding won't help when he's still in the AOE of Acid Mist, thus melts again.

Water can't melt, because it's already melted. Your point is to tell me that water can turn to water. Water doesn't melt when it meets acid, nor does it ever melt. This is turning to water.

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Ice turns to water by melting, not water. Melting is a physical process that results in the phase transition of a substance from a solid to a liquid. Water. Is. Liquid.

Water automatically lowers pH and dilutes the substance, acidic product. I don't know the extent to where Mei can raise her pH, but she'd have to do it constantly. Acid Mist and Water Mist for example, can't be used really in conjunction.

Who said his Katon are aimed at her? Firstly, Sasuke's Katon is stronger in CM2. Secondly, it's to open up the ceiling. And her melting is a slow process. It takes a moment for the acid to react. And that moment is all Sasuke needs for a blitz.

Speed does not matter when 2 people are clashing because they are moving towards one another and would ultimately meet at some point anyway. We can't judge how fast they are from that especially in Madara and Hashiramas case since we don't know where they were and the distance they went, we just see them clash swords then retreat.

Even when we know where they are, its still not a valid feat because like I said, they would ultimately meet anyway. For example, Base Bee clashing with V2 Ay does not mean Bee is faster or has better speed and reactions nor does it mean they are on par in those categories because we know Ay is faster at moving but Bee is faster at reactions and fight speed, not because of that panel of them clashing but because of the feats they have shown.

Here they are at equal distance from the water

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. Here, both have traveled roughly same distance if Hashirama didn't fall

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. They're equally as fast.

Pretty sure B never clashed with V2 E?

 

[Nattana]

Acid Mist doesn't instantly turn him into nothingness. If anything it will slowly apply like 1st -> 2nd -> 3rd etc burns. Even before Mei uses such Sasuke would have already gained need distance for the blitz. Remember Sasuke's astonishing, and surprising speed against a Deidara/Tobi who were literally facing, talking, and had a distance greater or equal to 100 meters?:

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Check out the exclamation marks over Deidara (showing surprise, and an unexpected action), what's really crazy is that Sasuke actually struck Tobi instead of Deidara who was a a foot or less behind Deidara seemingly insulting Deidara with an indirect gesture: "This could have been you".

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I honestly see Mei getting 100% blitzed once Sasuke reaches Mid-Range (even though in the scans I posted below shows Sasuke blitzed at Long-Range). That's all I'm saying.

Mei isn't getting blitzed, especially that she easily managed to blitz BZ herself and that she has some seriously overlooked speed feats in her fight against Madara. Also, Futton may not melt the whole body in 1 sec, but 1 sec is more than enough to burn out the eyes.

I can't believe Mei is so underrated in here...

 

[Rιver]

Mei isn't getting blitzed, especially that she easily managed to blitz BZ herself and that she has some seriously overlooked speed feats in her fight against Madara. Also, Futton may not melt the whole body in 1 sec, but 1 sec is more than enough to burn out the eyes.

I can't believe Mei is so underrated in here...

Black Zetsu isn't fast at all, and he got carried away. She never fought in CQC with Madara, if I recall correctly.

Because it burned out eyes in canon? Yes, yes.

 

[LuckyMan]

Here they are at equal distance from the water

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. Here, both have traveled roughly same distance if Hashirama didn't fall

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. They're equally as fast.

Pretty sure B never clashed with V2 E?

Now tell me how does that mean they are equals in movement and fight speed?

Yes Bee did clash with v2 Ay. Go read it.

There's only so much I can type on this phone especially when this keyboard keeps auto correcting me. I can't link scans either.

 

[Rιver]

Now tell me how does that mean they are equals in movement and fight speed?

Yes Bee did clash with v2 Ay. Go read it.

There's only so much I can type on this phone especially when this keyboard keeps auto correcting me. I can't link scans either.

Both, because they clashed and moved at same speed.

No he didn't, this was V2 E

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. Before that, he was at V1. B got knocked out, and said he couldn't make it.

 

[DrProof]

Mei isn't getting blitzed, especially that she easily managed to blitz BZ herself and that she has some seriously overlooked speed feats in her fight against Madara. Also, Futton may not melt the whole body in 1 sec, but 1 sec is more than enough to burn out the eyes.

I can't believe Mei is so underrated in here...

Lol bro. Mei is getting Blitzed.

 

[LuckyMan]

Both, because they clashed and moved at same speed.

No he didn't, this was V2 E

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. Before that, he was at V1. B got knocked out, and said he couldn't make it.

So prove they moved at the same speed and stop just saying they did. Otherwise one could argue that everyone whose clashed moves at the same speed.

Bee clashed v2 Ay with their Lariats. I have no idea how you went to the exact chapters and pulled a scan from it but didn't find or didnt post the one when Bee knocked Ay down through their Lariats.

 

[Rιver]

So prove they moved at the same speed and stop just saying they did. Otherwise one could argue that everyone whose clashed moves at the same speed.

Bee clashed v2 Ay with their Lariats. I have no idea how you went to the exact chapters and pulled a scan from it but didn't find or didnt post the one when Bee knocked Ay down through their Lariats.

Both reached the water at the same time, from equal distance. Both clashed, hence the SFX. Wut?

B was already moving when E changed to V2

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[Benjamin King]

Mei crossed 100m and intercepted Madara's Katon at point-blank. A blitz isn't going to happen when she can react to massive point-blank attacks, especially used by Madara. That's been established, she creates her Acid Mist and given the location of the match-up, Hebi ain't escaping. Orochimaru's regeneration techniques costs Sasuke most of his Chakra, Karin's healing is useless to chemical damage, Juugo's as well.

Mei low-mid diff.

 

[Apêx1]

Water can't melt, because it's already melted. Your point is to tell me that water can turn to water. Water doesn't melt when it meets acid, nor does it ever melt. This is turning to water.

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Ice turns to water by melting, not water. Melting is a physical process that results in the phase transition of a substance from a solid to a liquid. Water. Is. Liquid.

Water automatically lowers pH and dilutes the substance, acidic product. I don't know the extent to where Mei can raise her pH, but she'd have to do it constantly. Acid Mist and Water Mist for example, can't be used really in conjunction.

Who said his Katon are aimed at her? Firstly, Sasuke's Katon is stronger in CM2. Secondly, it's to open up the ceiling. And her melting is a slow process. It takes a moment for the acid to react. And that moment is all Sasuke needs for a blitz.

Yes, I know that. Doesn't change the fact that under the chakra presence of Hashirama, Suigetsu was falling to the floor regardless. So if anything, the outer layer of his body that keeps him together was melting in one way or another. Similarly, when Biju Dama passed through him, he should've been unaffected because he is water, yet he was left "in a puddle." It implies chakra does have an effect on him, regardless of the science you want to use.

No shit. Doesn't change what I just addressed. Brining science into this is insignificant since melt was a term intended for his outer body melting and his constituent water leaking into a puddle.

That's nice to know, his CM2's Katon is still laughed at by Mei's Suiton. Him opening up the ceiling is still insignificant when mist has been shown to be similar to a fog, it remains still. Ribcage was being melted despite its durability, Sasuke gets raped the instant his eyes make contact with it. More so, only because Karin tells them where she is, doesn't mean she has presented a detailed explanation of where she is for Sasuke to actually cut her up. Mei reacts or laughs at him melting.

 

[Draegod]

-It's an indoor location, Chakra blasts don't disperse the acidic molecules in the air since new ones will be pushed into the space that was being opened.
-Sasuke's ribcge Susano was being melted, him not feeling any pain let alone not melting away is ludicrous.
-Snakes are restricted since they are summons.
-Suigetsu melts away, nor does Mei need to use Suiton.
-Hidden mist added to the acidic environment makes it impossible to perceive. Lava globs on the floor and Acid mist all melt Hebi away.

-lol And Juugo just created a Huge Hole in the wall(s). Whats your point?
-Sasuke himself was literally in contacted with the Poison yet on received

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since teh Acid does not Melt instantly! Sasuke has

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While in CS2. Too a normal Human The mist might be deadly, but to CS2 Users it is childsplay and easily tanked!
-What????he doesn't summon all his snakes, they literally come

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! Do you read the manga?
-How do you melt water??????? Please show me anything in real or fake life that approves that statement! Plus the fact he was able to live from a Mountain Vaporizing TBB from point blank range shits on your fanfic. And how will mei not know to use her Ninjtsu which is water???? Do you not hear yourself?
-So i guess Hebi will just sit still and let her have her way? lmao Plus you said she wouldn't use water jutsu yet Hidden Mist is Water jutsu. lel Sasuke easily Goes Arial for a sneak attack sense he will know where she is at all times in the mist thanks to the snakes. Suigetsu and the rest Casually avoids the Slow lava. Using only mist will get her so far before she loses.

 

[BlackFlame44]

-lol And Juugo just created a Huge Hole in the wall(s). Whats your point?
-Sasuke himself was literally in contacted with the Poison yet on received

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since teh Acid does not Melt instantly! Sasuke has

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and

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While in CS2. Too a normal Human The mist might be deadly, but to CS2 Users it is childsplay and easily tanked!
-What????he doesn't summon all his snakes, they literally come

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! Do you read the manga?
-How do you melt water??????? Please show me anything in real or fake life that approves that statement! Plus the fact he was able to live from a Mountain Vaporizing TBB from point blank range shits on your fanfic. And how will mei not know to use her Ninjtsu which is water???? Do you not hear yourself?
-So i guess Hebi will just sit still and let her have her way? lmao Plus you said she wouldn't use water jutsu yet Hidden Mist is Water jutsu. lel Sasuke easily Goes Arial for a sneak attack sense he will know where she is at all times in the mist thanks to the snakes. Suigetsu and the rest Casually avoids the Slow lava. Using only mist will get her so far before she loses.

Sasuke's wankers are something else



OT: Mei rag dolls them with Water Style or Melts them with Lava/Acid

 

[Rιver]

Yes, I know that. Doesn't change the fact that under the chakra presence of Hashirama, Suigetsu was falling to the floor regardless. So if anything, the outer layer of his body that keeps him together was melting in one way or another. Similarly, when Biju Dama passed through him, he should've been unaffected because he is water, yet he was left "in a puddle." It implies chakra does have an effect on him, regardless of the science you want to use.

No shit. Doesn't change what I just addressed. Brining science into this is insignificant since melt was a term intended for his outer body melting and his constituent water leaking into a puddle.

That's nice to know, his CM2's Katon is still laughed at by Mei's Suiton. Him opening up the ceiling is still insignificant when mist has been shown to be similar to a fog, it remains still. Ribcage was being melted despite its durability, Sasuke gets raped the instant his eyes make contact with it. More so, only because Karin tells them where she is, doesn't mean she has presented a detailed explanation of where she is for Sasuke to actually cut her up. Mei reacts or laughs at him melting.

Your point? Does Mei have chakra levels comparable to Hashirama, able to overflow and scare people like that? No. Is acidic mist an energy blast, that evaporates water and eradicates mountains? No. The only argument you have here is that Suigetsu will be affected by the mist, by having a melting reaction. For one, even if he does melt, he gets back on his feet. Two, you have no basis for all of this. Three, Suigetsu is just one character in a team.

Which has been happening every time he has fought, being practically non factor and has never slowed him down.

Which is a fuel for Suigetsu, and Suigetsu corners her with massive Suiton that he creates or Sasuke escapes along with his comrades in the mist. Ribcage having durability doesn't tell anything about how strong the substance is. It's like saying because wood doesn't melt and rock does, wood is therefore stronger. What? Doesn't go that way.

Not to mention as Draegod said, Sasuke without CM2 and weakened got little burns. CM2 would never get burned as much, unless you're telling me that Katon and bombs < Acid Mist that could barely melt walls.

What are you talking about? Sasuke directly next to her, so is the rest of the team. She just points out where she is, Sasuke launches array of missiles along with Juugo to bring her out and finishes her off with a blitz.