naruttebayo
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i dunno how to take this ..............
so do you think an eye which casts izanagi can be used again if not pushed to it's time limit ????????????
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Massive Izanagi misconception i see all the time
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i dunno how to take this ..............
so do you think an eye which casts izanagi can be used again if not pushed to it's time limit ????????????
I get what you're saying but I think you're missing what I'm getting at just a little bit. This is why I feel like the Izanami explanation was just a bad one. Notice how Itachi says clearly that the uchihas were using it too much for themselves. He also said they were fighting one another about which result to use. So breaking this down:
He pretty much said that each Uchiha member was able to use Izanagi several times, and without losing their eye sight after one use because otherwise they wouldn't be able to use it but only twice (one time per each eye).
So taking this into consideration, that would mean that they couldn't be losing their eye sight after the results (a bolded part you said) because they Itachi implied they were using Izanagi to change various results. Now add in the fact that you said these Uchihas didnt have senju dna, and it really seems odd.
In other words how do they end up losing their eye sight after the result if they can use it over and over again? Either they reached their result, deactivated it, and saved it, or they reached their result, deactivated it, and loss their eye sight.
It's pretty much the same thing as saying without senju dna, they can change various results, but with senju dna, they can increase the time limit of the jutsu, but they will lose their eye sight after achieving one result
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naruttebayo
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in your previous post as you said why uchiha were inferior to senju, the answer to that answers this too i guess
and how do you think there was a stone tablet for so many forbidden jutsu's including the rinnegan .
according to tobi izanagi was used by the s06p himself (i remeber it's stated somewhere)
imo using izanagi is easier than getting rinnegan but it requires senju dna.
if uchiha could use izanagi so much they will definitely be above senju
the fact that one needs senju dna and loses an eyesite is exactly the reason why uchiha were never above senju.
u see izanagi was never easy to use in the first place.
Didn't Madara create the tablet or the Elder son. I forget and I also don't remember Tobi saying that. I think you mean Creation of all things. What I'm saying is if Uchihas were using Senju Dna to make themselves stronger there were other benefits besides Izanagi to put them over Senjus. It just wouldn't make any sense. At the same time if we had Uchihas w.Senju dna back then wouldn't we see vice versa?
I don't think you meant several times, but more like multiple times right?
I disagree because like the OP explained they can change results because of the time limit Izanagi has. Add to the fact another Uchiha can use it and them we have Uchihas changing realities all willy nilly. Maybe they didn't lose their eyesight because they kept changing their results? That would make the most sense imo.
naruttebayo
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nope tobi said about s06p that's how i remeber it
and probaly stone tablet was created by elder son most probably ............ leave it there
think about izanami and izanagi and it's use
why would izanami would be created by uchiha to stop an fellow uchiha
if you think uchiha can use it without senju dna, also if they don't lose the eyesite wouldn't they (uchiha clan) be invincible
i mean if you have izanagi users in your army throw them in to the battle and you'll never get bad result cuz the user being immune to death
fact that izanami was created by the uchiha themselves to stop another uchiha suggests that they were dangerous to their own clan. (may be stealing eye).
see the first user so6p was creater of izanagi(he already had both yin & yang)
but izanami was created latter to stop the izanagi users by the uchiha.
further i don't see that why senju dna is unimportant for the izanagi cuz you are playing with death itself.
you need both yin and yang
nagato had rinnegan he could fake the death of others
i see izanagi as a small version of that casting on oneself to avoid death, if uchiha don't need senju dna they will simply be to hax and above senju.
Thats why people had this discussion all the time because it didn't make much sense. Tbh I'm not kishi and he doesn't clearify things to often but I just don't see Uchihas having Senju dna outside of Madara and Tobi.
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Don't know if you are right about it not requiring senju dna, but you are right that you can release it and save the eye before it loses it's eye sight
naruttebayo
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as you can see the image i posted above (#19)
it was not that tough to get senju dna
further in the stone tablet which existed long before madara, must have indication on how to get izanagi .
that's right both yin and yang as madara said.
it's not a big deal if people before madara were using izanagi. it looks like izanagi was known even outside (danzou)
izanagi fakes the death that's why it requires both yin and yang.
izanami is simply the greatest genjutsu it doesn't require yang.
however both technique require the sacrifice of an eye.
Besides the fact you don't have any proof and it's highly improbable..... it would be bad story telling on Kishi's part if Uchihas knew senju dna would strengthen their powers (Madara aside.) I don't agree with you but you are entitled to believe what you want.
