Mangetsu is NOT the strongest Seven Ninja Swordsmen
- Thread starter ShaneEyyy
- Start date
Dwight: "False, the lightning doesn't have to be strong, just has to have contact as shown as when Darui just infused his blade with lightning, nothing special. However, you may be right about the jelly like state, but if a Katon is strong enough it should have SOME type of special condition because if a Katon is strong enough against a Suiton tech, it would cancel the Suiton and create steam".
Actually, excluding the only fact you provided is the fact that there is no databook for Kenjutsu, when you should already know I was referring to the Taijutsu category, which Zabuza and Kisame still both have 4.5/5, so its already implied thats what there kenjutsu would probably be.
Other than that, your whole comment was based on theory, not facts.
Pekoms
Active member
Awards
I was fully aware, but, you had so much incorrect info it wasn't even remotely amusing.
Theory?
Your entire rant is based on speculation and the unknown.
Everything I said was true.
Last edited:
Dude, pick any topic ill beat you out in any debate whatsoever. And Zabuza is the strongest..... And im not a huge fanboy anyways, like seriously ask some of those smart guys on here like Icelerate or Negative Knight, they'll tell you.
I can already see you being one of those "odd balls" in school, the type of guy who still brings pokemon cards to lunch.
Lightbringer
Active member
LOL
dude no one is agreeing with you, and you're wrong! just face it
if you like zabuza, then go ahead and like him....but don't try to prove he's the best at anything because it won't happen and everyone will just disagree with you even more
Lol water nature type counters fire nature type!
and yeah.....the Hiramekarei is far better
HirameKarei
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Kubikiribocho
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Zabuza has the weakest sword out of all of them period! It has no special properties aside for regenerating, it might as well be just a regular blade
Jinchpachi has a blade that explodes on contact
Ringo shoots lightning
Akebino has a blade that destroys all defenses...so it can't be blocked
and even though the anime is not the most reliable source, but seeing as though the manga never showed the swordsmen fight and the anime did....I'd say it's pretty reliable how it depicts them
.....and each of them outclassed zabuza, killing the alliance like they were nothing[/QUOTE]
I agree on the swords.
And no they didn't out class Zabuza....Zabuza was the only one able to actually use the Hidden Mist Jutsu and he was better than all of them at Silent Killing, on top of that, he showed Suiton techs which none of them did
TheBrightSide
Banned
Well, we have been debating on this topic and you havent "beat me out" by any means. Zabuza is not the srongest, you are simply ****ing retarted. Kisame destroys. No question. And i dont know what ive done to indicate that at all but if you blindly attacking my personality over the internet when you dont know me at all makes you feel better, then by all means continue. You make yourself look like a jack ass while i dont care in the slightest considering you are rather far from the truth. Not too mention you look like a baby faced 14 year old on your profile. Real tough.
This is the only thing people disagreed with against me
I dont understand why him mastering all the swords is so impressive and makes him above all of them, thats probably what im missing
Pekoms
Active member
Awards
Haha... you obviously don't get it.
My long post refuted almost everything you said.
It's classified as Hiden, not Kekkei Genkai.
Haramekarei does offer more versatility because it can be more than a sword.
There was also no evidence to support it being the weakest.
You said Samehada was just about chakra, it has to accept the user.
Mangetsu has immunity to Taijutsu, Kenjutsu, and Suiton.
You don't know what rank Mangetsu is.
You don't know what he can use.
Lightbringer
Active member
I agree on the swords.
And no they didn't out class Zabuza....Zabuza was the only one able to actually use the Hidden Mist Jutsu and he was better than all of them at Silent Killing, on top of that, he showed Suiton techs which none of them did[/QUOTE]
we don't know if they had hidden mist jutsu or not, we hardly saw anything from them.....Mei has Hidden mist too, so I'm pretty sure it's not exclusive to zabuza since they are the pride of kirigakure
By your logic, Mei having hidden mist makes her the strongest kage.....which is not the case
Lightbringer
Active member
you don't know why mastering all swords is so impressive? Then what is so impressive about the seven swordsmen in general?
Zabuza IS the strongest, simply because he is. And are you really calling me retarded? For some reason, your stupid ass keeps bringing up Kisame, when if you could ****ing read i said EXCLUDING Kisame. haha your really ignorant. And everything you say, especially how you talk implies thats who you probably are though haha.
You're saying I look like a baby face 14 year old on my profile? Dude....I'm 16, play on the JV baseball team for one of the schools in Ohio, oh and one of the only girls on here, "Jazzy" commented on my profile saying I looked cool in the pic, so sack it.
Here, how about you post a pic of you on here, and lets see how funny looking you are.
you cant base an unbiased opinion on this without knowing all the facts. thing is, we know all of zabuza's abilities while we only know a few of Mangetsu's. also he was said to master all 7 swords, im sure this wouldnt be impressive or worth mentioning if they could all do it. lastly suigetsu was shown to tank a tbb, a feat only shown by few top 10 chars and we know that he aspired to become as strong as his brother implying mangetsu could do the same thing if not more. Oh 1 more thing, dont underestimate high chakra reserves because that just means he could spam more techs. For all we know he could have as much chakra as kisame. Point is you cant make a one sided thread like this without having flaws, and without people picking it dry
Last edited:
we don't know if they had hidden mist jutsu or not, we hardly saw anything from them.....Mei has Hidden mist too, so I'm pretty sure it's not exclusive to zabuza since they are the pride of kirigakure
By your logic, Mei having hidden mist makes her the strongest kage.....which is not the case[/QUOTE]
Yes we do know that they cant use the Hidden Mist because Kabuto even said so, he explained why he wanted to keep Zabuza in play to keep the mist up, and if they could use the mist, why didnt they when Zabuza got sealed? lol, get real here.
And no thats not by my logic.........................................the SNWOM was mainly feared because of the hidden mist and silent killing, so thats why i think it puts Zabuza above the other members because he was the best at those techs
Lightbringer
Active member
But we don't know if the other members even attempted to try to learn and master the 6 other swords. We don't know if Mangetsu can do that move or not, Suigetsu may have only been able to expand his body that far because of an experiment by Orochimaru, that's why it's unsafe to assume these things.
I didn't underestimate his high chakra reserves, it is an incredible feat, but knowing Fuguki got it, Mangetsu didn't have the highest amount of chakra.
Pekoms
Active member
Awards
He connected himself to an already existing source of water.
The fact remains, he's got immunity to Taijutsu, Kenjutsu, and Suiton.
A lot of shinobi rely on those skills to overcome their adversaries.
Also, don't negative rep someone who is merely disagreeing.
Last edited: