[Manga fact ] Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I would like to prove that Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi as there was a lot of doubt in some of people about it. Here I go:

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^^ Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, as the same aftereffects happened

- pain/strain of eye
- distorted vision
- panel of catching target in genjutsu is displayed in negative.

Proof:

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- Itachi's Tsukuyomi uses negative colors.

Difference between Itachi's and Sasuke's Tsukuyomi:

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^^ As Danzo said Sasuke can not control length of genjutsu which in essence mean control of space and time which Sasuke lacked.


Basically: Tsukuyomi = MS Genjutsu + Control over time and space.

Conclusion: Sasuke has Tsukuyomi but his version is weaker then Itachi as it lacks control over space and time.

 

[Douryoku]

Show me one single manga panel from the whole manga, in which Sasuke utters the words 'Tsukuyomi' whilst exercising a genjutsu.

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[Yanks]

Not this again
OT, I'm sure he doesn't, tbh.

 

[-immortal-]

Finally someone who remembers. all haters wil deny

 

[Bronze]

You should have also included the Databook statement, Itachi's and Sasuke's of the requirements of Susanoo. Nice thread.

 

[Draw]

He has tsukiyomi he just has not had any time to sit and practice it. He just uses his regular genjutsu for now. I'm sure if we get a canon movie and it's a small time skip maybe he will use it. But he has never used it in the manga IMO. It would make sense either way for him to have it or not. Itachi using tsukiyomi may just be unique to him and Sasuke may just have mastery of Enton. I like that better. Keeps tsukiyomi unique to Itachi

 

[roncato]

Ofc he can use Tsukuyomi, lols. Only morons might think he can't.

 

[ANiMUS]

Show me one single manga panel from the whole manga, in which Sasuke utters the words 'Tsukuyomi' whilst exercising a genjutsu.

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Do you mean to say that MS users experience pain after performing normal genjutsu, while 3T can do it no problem???

 

[Yanks]

You should have also included the Databook statement, Itachi's and Sasuke's of the requirements of Susanoo. Nice thread.

That fact that the DB is outdated and is not as reliable as the manga itself makes that argument moot

He has tsukiyomi he just has not had any time to sit and practice it. He just uses his regular genjutsu for now. I'm sure if we get a canon movie and it's a small time skip maybe he will use it. But he has never used it in the manga IMO. It would make sense either way for him to have it or not. Itachi using tsukiyomi may just be unique to him and Sasuke may just have mastery of Enton. I like that better. Keeps tsukiyomi unique to Itachi

If you never seen him use it, you can't say he has it

 

[Boston Rob]

He can use genjutsu, what name its calling doesnt really matter, cuz he lacks of skills with it anyway

 

[Gerkak]

I don't think he does. The only difference between tsukuyomi and other sharingan genjutsu is the control of time within the illusion. That is the defining feature of tsukuyomi. Saying that sasuke can perform tsukuyomi without it's defining feature is like saying that zabuza can use water dragon jutsu but when used the jutsu dosen't resemble a dragon at all and is just a mass of water.

 

[Bronze]

That fact that the DB is outdated and is not as reliable as the manga itself makes that argument moot



If you never seen him use it, you can't say he has it

So we shouldn't use any old scan for feats, information or anything right?

 

[-immortal-]

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lmao you dumb? have madara ever used the Utter word for the meteor Jutsu? lmfao still uses it.


-Sasuke can use Tsuki only a very weak verson of it. he is just not a pro w/ genjutsu

-Sasuke > amaterasu/Enton
-Itachi > Genjutsu/Tsukyomi

like sum guy above said

 

[Wabbit]

So Sasukes Tsukoyomi is just an MS Genjutsu?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Show me one single manga panel from the whole manga, in which Sasuke utters the words 'Tsukuyomi' whilst exercising a genjutsu.

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no need picture speak for itself. Words can be used to trick someone into thinking something false:

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^^ Kinkaku and Ginkaku explain it well

Not this again
OT, I'm sure he doesn't, tbh.

The manga(source) he can

but haters gonna hate

Finally someone who remembers. all haters wil deny

Yeah , it was not hard to forget it.

You should have also included the Databook statement, Itachi's and Sasuke's of the requirements of Susanoo. Nice thread.

Well I could but i think databook is sometimes outdated about some stuff... so I don't want to use it unless had to.

Do you agree that Tsukuyomi is bascially MS Genjutsu + Control over Space and time ?

Imo then Madara would have it as well.

He has tsukiyomi he just has not had any time to sit and practice it. He just uses his regular genjutsu for now. I'm sure if we get a canon movie and it's a small time skip maybe he will use it. But he has never used it in the manga IMO. It would make sense either way for him to have it or not. Itachi using tsukiyomi may just be unique to him and Sasuke may just have mastery of Enton. I like that better. Keeps tsukiyomi unique to Itachi

True

Ofc he can use Tsukuyomi, lols. Only morons might think he can't.

Another intelligent one

He can use genjutsu, what name its calling doesnt really matter, cuz he lacks of skills with it anyway

Another Good point and legit answer

I don't think he does. The only difference between tsukuyomi and other sharingan genjutsu is the control of time within the illusion. That is the defining feature of tsukuyomi. Saying that sasuke can perform tsukuyomi without it's defining feature is like saying that zabuza can use water dragon jutsu but when used the jutsu dosen't resemble a dragon at all and is just a mass of water.

Well if you think about this way... then you can say that.

So Sasukes Tsukoyomi is just an MS Genjutsu?

Well Bascially it is ...

 

[Yanks]

So we shouldn't use any old scan for feats, information or anything right?

I didn't say that, I said the databook.

 

[ANiMUS]

I don't think he does. The only difference between tsukuyomi and other sharingan genjutsu is the control of time within the illusion. That is the defining feature of tsukuyomi. Saying that sasuke can perform tsukuyomi without it's defining feature is like saying that zabuza can use water dragon jutsu but when used the jutsu dosen't resemble a dragon at all and is just a mass of water.

No what makes it different is the speed and power, because of this the technique causes pain. Just like how Sasuke chose to develop Enton from amaterasu, Itachi developed his tsukuyomi to manipulate time. Tsukuyomi is a powerful genjutsu, but Itachi who is a master at it simply has more control, therefore he can do more

 

[Minator93]

Well -Logic- already shat on your thread, but let me drop off something,

During Itachi vs Kabuto, the VIZ translation confirms that only Itachi has Tsukuyomi. Sasuke uses some different Mangekyo Genjutsu which certainly isn't Tsukuyomi U_U

 

[Bronze]

I didn't say that, I said the databook.

Manga made countless contradictions, a lot more than the Databook. I can split out, if i need to. Point is, Databook is outdated when it comes to character's abilities stats especially the ones who are still alive. Its not outdated for some other information, unless Manga contradicts.

 

[Yanks]

No what makes it different is the speed and power, because of this the technique causes pain. Just like how Sasuke chose to develop Enton from amaterasu, Itachi developed his tsukuyomi to manipulate time. Tsukuyomi is a powerful genjutsu, but Itachi who is a master at it simply has more control, therefore he can do more

Well he uses his left eye for enton and his right eye for amaterasu
both eye jutsus for MS = Susano'o

Only reason why it said Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi is because only Itachi had it at the time and those are the jutsu he had from his own MS to unlock it