[Major Theory] Kaguya is the Juubi

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So in the recent chapters it was stated that Kaguya was considered the strongest and that she was also a tyrant that ruled the world with her power and feared like a demon.

If that's the case, then how did she die? If she was the strongest, then immortality wouldn't be out of the question for her. And if she is that strong, wouldn't she also have the power to reincarnate as well?

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It was shown that she possessed the Juubi's sharingan and used it the same way Madara is planning on using. By enslaving people with genjutsu. She is the only other being we know of that possesses this complete sharingan after eating the fruit.

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It was said that when Shinji became angry, it sent out the Juubi to retrieve it's chakra. This happened only after Kaguya ate the fruit and again happened only after eating the fruit.

The question here is, if Kaguya was so strong, why couldn't she stop the Juubi instead of her sons?


The Juubi was stated to have foul chakra as well and terrorized the world.


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Kaguya possesses the complete sharingan, was feared like a demon, and tried to enslave the world.


Kaguya was the Juubi! She ate the fruit, and the fruit eventually transformed her into the juubi.


Which also explain how she was defeated. She is the most powerful being there is, more powerful than Hogoromo, but not with the combined strength of her sons.



The Gedo Mazou is the Shell of the Juubi and it has a human form. The human form could be Kaguya when she started to transform into a "demon"


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Hagoromo also stated that when all chakra becomes one, a fruit is born. All of the God Tree's chakra is stored in the fruit and Kaguya ate that fruit, gaining all of Shinji's chakra.

Shinji can't survive without chakra, which evidently means that it can't create that Juubi(something powerful enough to destroy continents) after Kaguya consumed all of its chakra.

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Lastly, here it states that the Juubi was the incarnation of Shinji.......meaning it's not the original tree, but just a part of it.

It also says that the sons fought the Juubi to repent for her mother's sins. Her sin was becoming the Juubi and terrorizing the world, making Hogoromo feel responsible.

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Interesting
 
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Woah,just woah.Epic theory there.Its gonna be crazy if that's what actually happend
 

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No, how could she have been the Juubi if she ate the Shinju's fruit and as a result the Juubi was created, with this theory, at one given point, there would have ultimately have been two Juubis... If you are using the sharingan/rinnegan hybrid as a comparison, you have to take into consideration that the Shinju already had the eye, before Kaguya ate the fruit. In my opinion, she either died a natural death or the amount of power she had overwhelmed her and she died. Anyways this was a good read...
 

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That would be a nice plot twist, + Repped, Dattebayo. :)
 

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No, how could she have been the Juubi if she ate the Shinju's fruit and as a result the Juubi was created, with this theory, at one given point, there would have ultimately have been two Juubis... If you are using the sharingan/rinnegan hybrid as a comparison, you have to take into consideration that the Shinju already had the eye, before Kaguya ate the fruit. In my opinion, she either died a natural death or the amount of power she had overwhelmed her and she died. Anyways this was a good read...
Obito and the God tree.
 

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Shinji is the name of the god tree The tree you are acutally Looking also known as the jubbi your whole concept of the jubbi and shinji is wrong ... Kaguya eated the Shinji (god tree in english) s fruit that s why she gained its chakra She is not the jubbi (10 tails or also knows as god tree or Shinji) The reason she gained the jubbi s powers was because that s how nature works that s how trees reproduce themself (if she didn't eat it probabily a new god tree would have been born) its a simple concept really .. Also hagaromo also stated that His mother was above anyone yet Her sins were that she has used power to control humanity and since she was so powerful unlike hagoromo who travels in form of chakra she was porbabily punished in a form of a shimigami (or reper death seal )
 

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Obito and the God tree.

Yeah you're right, but for some reason when I think of Madara and Obito, I come to think that their Juubis are yin/yang, if you notice Obito gets one part of the staff and Madara gets the other, this works in conjunction with the theory about their rinnegans too...
 

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Shinji is the name of the god tree The tree you are acutally Looking also known as the jubbi your whole concept of the jubbi and shinji is wrong ... Kaguya eated the Shinji (god tree in english) s fruit that s why she gained its chakra She is not the jubbi (10 tails or also knows as god tree or Shinji) The reason she gained the jubbi s powers was because that s how nature works that s how trees reproduce themself (if she didn't eat it probabily a new god tree would have been born) its a simple concept really .. Also hagaromo also stated that His mother was above anyone yet Her sins were that she has used power to control humanity and since she was so powerful unlike hagoromo who travels in form of chakra she was porbabily punished in a form of a shimigami (or reper death seal )

The fruit of that the Tree bears every millennium is probably a way for the Tree to bloom once again after it dies. Kaguya ate the fruit, which is the stored power of the Tree and eventually transformed into it.
 

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The fruit of that the Tree bears every millennium is probably a way for the Tree to bloom once again after it dies. Kaguya ate the fruit, which is the stored power of the Tree and eventually transformed into it.

It was explained in the manga that the Tree got mad because someone stole her chakra (her child just like human have childreen trees do to) and it became the jubbi ... Also Kaguya as i said it was also explained that her sins were that she used her power to rule the world those were her sins just like madara is using his power right now The jubbi is the very same tree man
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It was explained in the manga that the Tree got mad because someone stole her chakra (her child just like human have childreen trees do to) and it became the jubbi ... Also Kaguya as i said it was also explained that her sins were that she used her power to rule the world those were her sins just like madara is using his power right now The jubbi is the very same tree man
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It also stated that Hagoromo defeated the Juubi alone.....so that tablet isn't accurate.

and that doesn't disprove my theory.

When Shinji took over Kaguya, it would still get mad and try to take chakra back from man.

Explain to me where Kaguya was when the Juubi attacked? If she's more powerful than Hagoromo, surely she could have stopped it herself.

Why would the Tree bear only 1 fruit every millennium unless if it was a way for it to continue its existence? No one ever ate the fruit, yet there is always one. What happened to the rest?
 

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It also stated that Hagoromo defeated the Juubi alone.....so that tablet isn't accurate.

and that doesn't disprove my theory.

When Shinji took over Kaguya, it would still get mad and try to take chakra back from man.

Explain to me where Kaguya was when the Juubi attacked? If she's more powerful than Hagoromo, surely she could have stopped it herself.

Why would the Tree bear only 1 fruit every millennium unless if it was a way for it to continue its existence? No one ever ate the fruit, yet there is always one. What happened to the rest?

She was Probabily Dead by that Time .. Also The fact That Jubbi only became a threat Later on proves this After all why would the tree stand by and not be a constant threat since the moment she took her fruit (either the 10 tails feared her or she was holding it back)on top of that the sage himself would have mentioned it that His mother became the 10 tails that is not a thing you would negate from telling naruto would you ? The tablet was writed by other people So far it has been 95% correct where the only mistake it had was not mentioning the sage s brother

I don't know what happend to those fruits i m not kishi m just saying your theory is not even possible
 

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How did she die? I tell you how. She got very very old. If she could be immortal, don't you think the sage would have used the same method so he could keep the world at peace at first hand?
 

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She was Probabily Dead by that Time .. Also The fact That Jubbi only became a threat Later on proves this After all why would the tree stand by and not be a constant threat since the moment she took her fruit (either the 10 tails feared her or she was holding it back)on top of that the sage himself would have mentioned it that His mother became the 10 tails that is not a thing you would negate from telling naruto would you ? The tablet was writed by other people So far it has been 95% correct where the only mistake it had was not mentioning the sage s brother

I don't know what happend to those fruits i m not kishi m just saying your theory is not even possible

One who is lustful for power doesn't accept death easily. Why hasn't she reincarnated or transcended time like Hagoromo? She obviously has the power to do so.

It is a remarkable coincidence that she was feared as a demon just like the juubi and possessed the complete sharignan on her forehead, just like the Juubi.

She is considered to be the most powerful, just like the Juubi.

Hagoromo even said in the latest chapter that Kaguya lost control over her power.

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Hagoromo also stated that the Infinite Tsukuyomi uses the roots of the God Tree to enslave people.......obviously Kaguya had the power to use this

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How did she die? I tell you how. She got very very old. If she could be immortal, don't you think the sage would have used the same method so he could keep the world at peace at first hand?

So you're telling me Madara was able to live forever just by being attached to the Gedo but Kaguya who possessed the full power of the Juubi can't?
 
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Very interesting and plausible

I too always believed that the fruit is where the god tree stores it's power. Kaguya eating the fruit basically took all the powers of the juubi, thus creating/becoming one herself.
 

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One who is lustful for power doesn't accept death easily. Why hasn't she reincarnated or transcended time like Hagoromo? She obviously has the power to do so.

It is a remarkable coincidence that she was feared as a demon just like the juubi and possessed the complete sharignan on her forehead, just like the Juubi.

She is considered to be the most powerful, just like the Juubi.

Hagoromo even said in the latest chapter that Kaguya lost control over her power.

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Hagoromo also stated that the Infinite Tsukuyomi uses the roots of the God Tree to enslave people.......obviously Kaguya had the power to use this

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She had the jubbi s powers of course she was feared And she was using them for power and domination what you fail to realize at what the sage said is that because of that power she became even more greedy Which let to her lossing her mind and becoming something else probabily the shiki fujin she doesn't even reasble the jubbi at all look the pannel you just posted

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She is more like a demon who lost his mind now where does that even take you

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Isn't it a bit too much of coicidence that she looks the same as this guy has the same horns is even Considered and feared a demon and lost her mind let s see what this guy s name is Dead deamon seal

The sage travels though time he has been watching naruto and his sons all along that s why he knows how mugen tsukyomi works that statment you just made means nothing on top of that Kaguya has already proven she would use her power to rule the world hagoromo said that himself madara aswell if she knew about inifnite tsykyomi what makes you think she wouldn't have used it right away and end it
 
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