[Game] Mafia game 11x4 aka game #44

[Alexis2282AE]

Even if your thought is "I don't know," even if it's "I haven't looked closely," even if it's "he seems like LHF to me". You'd SAY SOMETHING.

Fraud says nothing.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Unvote

Wanted to pressure Gutsy, but it seems he's not around and it's almost EOD and I don't think it makes sense to lynch him based on my concern, especially since it's only his second game, that being said. I'll still need a response from you @Gutsy

@Rej Why do you think @Daedalus is scummy?

Elmage voted Gutsy, never articulated a specific concern. The pressure on Gutsy was always performative, and the unvote confirms it.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Towns Konno. Bounce.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Includes three more Townies. Bounce.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Vote probably the most unusual-acting player (Gutsy), and still being unable to say anything specific. Bounce.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Gutsy isn't around. Unvote. Ask OTHER people about the main wagon target rather than engaging yourself. Bounce.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Get questioned by someone (Lucidus, I believe?). Deflect entirely. Reverse interrogation. Bounce.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Just to clarify what I meant earlier, with Fuji, it wasn’t meant as an attack, more that a lot of your recent posts felt reactive. Do you have anyone you’re leaning scum on right now?

Elmage, besides Konno/Alexis, is there anyone you’re unsure about or suspicious of yet?

Also curious what people think about Ekko and Daedalus since things have been a bit quiet there.

Still early, but I think getting more detailed reads out there will help.

Look at this post.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Just caught up properly.

Main thing I’m noticing is the Daed wagon picking up a lot of momentum off tone and “LHF” arguments. I’m not against it, but I’d like to hear clearer reasoning beyond “he always plays scummy.”

Brad, can you explain your vote on me a bit more? You said there’s mafia in me/Konno/Elmage, what specifically puts me there? I dont see the reasoning for this.

Elmage, you said you don’t really scumhunt D1. How do you think town benefits from that approach?

I’m currently leaning:

• Town: Konno
• Slight town: Rej
• Unsure: Ekko
• Concerned: Elmage / Brad

Still sorting Daed.

Look at this post.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Are you telling me Elmage has nothing to say about how robotic it sounds?

 

[Konno]

it says in the post itself

what r ur current suspects?

So let me ask you this

vote lynch Konno

the read on rej made no sense yesterday and i suspect its coming from place of TMI, when called out for it she/he adjusted it accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying that the initial read was nonsense

What do you mean by "when called out"? I don't remember anyone "calling me out for it"(what "it" even), I don't know where it's coming from.
And another thing you got wrong or misunderstood is you are saying that i "adjusted accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying the initial read was nonsense" when in reality I never "adjusted" and to me it seems like you are missing something here and making things up.
Here is what I was saying about Rej at the beginning of the game after Rej's initial posts:

Earlier in the talks between Ekko and Alexis, Ekko seemed scummy. Alexis was questioning him and then Ekko started portraying Alexis as scum and the reason being only because Alexis was questioning him. Ekko seemed to be defending himself and defending pretty hard which appears scummy to me.
I'm keeping an eye on Ekko.

Rej - lots of flood in the beginning unrelated to the game and then left/disappeared. Still, I'm leaning more town on Rej because he mentioned he wanted Alexis as town leader and I believe Alexis is town.

I already shared some of my thoughts earlier:

To add more to that and summarize a bit:
Alexis - reading town
Ekko - leaning scum
Gutsy - reading town. Strong entrance right off the bat and he is trying to scumhunt and not just post.
Rej - not a strong lean scum, but close to it because we still haven't seen much of Rej after that first appearance at the beginning and there was a lot of shitposting rather than playing the game.
Fuji - leaning more toward town
Daedalus - he's hard for me to read as of now, but I'm leaning more towards scum than town.
Elmage and Lucidus - cannot get a reading because of 1-2 posts so far

I wouldn't say I 'changed' my read on Rej. At first, I said I was leaning more town on Rej because he mentioned he wanted Alexis as town leader and I believe Alexis is town. Yes, I still believe Alexis is town. However, in my recent post I said "to add and summartize" and shared my recent thoughts where I am leaning more scum on Rej than town because there has not been any more activity from Rej besides that first appearance. I wasn't a fan of those first posts only except for Rej saying he wanted Alexis as town leader. But thinking more about it, his wanting of Alexis as town leader and leaving after first posts does not make him a town lean for me.

I would vote you, Ekko, Rej, or Daedalus

And here is what I said after Rej appeared in the game again and was posting and actually playing and helping us resolve the game:

I like Rej's analysis, leaning more town on Rej now.


Why do you think I, Gutsy, or Elmage might be mafia and what made you cast a vote on Gutsy even though you could have voted me or Elmage?

That vote came kinda out of nowhere. Why Lucidus?

So where is that being "called out for it she/he adjusted it accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying that the initial read was nonsense" coming from?

 

[Konno]

it says in the post itself

what r ur current suspects?

As far as suspects, I'd like to hear more from @Alexis2282AE and @Rej today since they are the ones who voted Daedalus in the poll.

I’m looking at how the Daedalus wagon formed and what happened overnight.
Alexis being widely townread is interesting given that flip.
I'm not saying I'm suspecting Alexis or Rej, btw

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Just got done with work.
Leaning town on @Konno @Rej @Fujishiro
Null on @Ekkologix and @Alexis2282AE


Not really looking for suspects D1, except I spot something that's an obvious red flag. For now, I'm just looking for those who may be in the town core, scum hunting usually starts D2 for me; that way, we have info from night actions and lynches, and I can go back to D1 interaction to see if anything is suspicious based on the new information. This is generally how I play, and that's why I get more dangerous as each day goes by. It also means I usually get killed early xD

if this is genuine, where are the other hallmarks of townie? Where's the deep engagement with the people he has as townie? Where's the reasoning for WHY Konno, Rej, and Fujishiro feel town?

 

[Konno]

I’m re-evaluating yesterday’s wagon. Alexis drove it, but I’m more curious about how others positioned around it.
Who benefited most from Daedalus mislynch?
Who avoided heat?
Who had weak reasoning but coasted?

I wanna be going back to D1 and try to analyze it and find answers to those questions

 

[Alexis2282AE]

As far as suspects, I'd like to hear more from @Alexis2282AE and @Rej today since they are the ones who voted Daedalus in the poll.

I’m looking at how the Daedalus wagon formed and what happened overnight.
Alexis being widely townread is interesting given that flip.
I'm not saying I'm suspecting Alexis or Rej, btw

I'm right here.

 

[Konno]

I'm right here.

Can you walk through your thought process on that vote of Daedalus?

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Can you walk through your thought process on that vote of Daedalus?

I thought I already did. Would've switched to Ekko if I still had time.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

I thought I already did. Would've switched to Ekko if I still had time.

I didn't realize you had already voted in the poll, would've acted differently if I knew.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Can you walk through your thought process on that vote of Daedalus?

Reads?

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Please let us know your thought on Daed when you're done sorting. Preferably before EOD.

I'd normally give you the benefit of the doubt since this is your second game, but I also played in your first, and I did mention something similar then, since I was a bit more active D1 in that game because of how important my role was (I also thought I'd probably be a night target), and @Rej made a remark about me being more active that ususal as town.

My activity D1 is quite known, so the fact that you're concerned about that but didn't attempt to find out from my past games or from those I've played with seems to be either lazy, or scumy.

That being said, I get that you're still getting a feel for your playstyle as well, but it's easier to establish a town core D1 than lynch scum

A statement that is literally true from a wolf's perspective in a way it isn't from town's.