[Game] Mafia game 11x4 aka game #44

[Alexis2282AE]

Typed up a 4,500-word case for 2 hours straight after Daedalus died, so I'll just segment it here.

 

[Michelle]

Sorry I closed the thread accidentally while making the poll

 

[Ekkologix]

i think we yeet konno, thoughts?

 

[Ekkologix]

vote lynch Konno

the read on rej made no sense yesterday and i suspect its coming from place of TMI, when called out for it she/he adjusted it accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying that the initial read was nonsense

 

[Konno]

Not thrilled with that lynch of Daedalus.
I want to look at how the Daedalus wagon formed rather than just who was on it.
@Alexis2282AE @Rej can you walk through your thought process on that vote?

 

[Konno]

vote lynch Konno

the read on rej made no sense yesterday and i suspect its coming from place of TMI, when called out for it she/he adjusted it accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying that the initial read was nonsense

What specifically about my play is scummy to you? I want to understand the angle.

 

[Ekkologix]

What specifically about my play is scummy to you? I want to understand the angle.

it says in the post itself

what r ur current suspects?

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Just got done with work.
Leaning town on @Konno @Rej @Fujishiro
Null on @Ekkologix and @Alexis2282AE


Not really looking for suspects D1, except I spot something that's an obvious red flag. For now, I'm just looking for those who may be in the town core, scum hunting usually starts D2 for me; that way, we have info from night actions and lynches, and I can go back to D1 interaction to see if anything is suspicious based on the new information. This is generally how I play, and that's why I get more dangerous as each day goes by. It also means I usually get killed early xD

Why does this thought exist? What is the cognitive origin of "I don't scum-hunt D1"? From Town!Ace, the ostensible answer is efficiency. Wait for night info, then work backwards. Fine in theory.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

But for the entirety of D1, he has not one suspect, not one case.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Just got done with work.
Leaning town on @Konno @Rej @Fujishiro
Null on @Ekkologix and @Alexis2282AE


Not really looking for suspects D1, except I spot something that's an obvious red flag. For now, I'm just looking for those who may be in the town core, scum hunting usually starts D2 for me; that way, we have info from night actions and lynches, and I can go back to D1 interaction to see if anything is suspicious based on the new information. This is generally how I play, and that's why I get more dangerous as each day goes by. It also means I usually get killed early xD

Five reads. Three town leans. Two nulls. Zero scum leans.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Konno gets mentioned twice, but the reasoning is never articulated beyond vibes. Rej and Fujishiro appear in the list with zero prior engagement. The guy is just placing them.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

But here is Daedalus in this reads list? Where is Brad? Where is Lucidus? Where is Gutsy?

 

[Alexis2282AE]

The reads list covers five players and omits the rest, including the most discussed person at the time (bitter/Cata/Dae).

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Please let us know your thought on Daed when you're done sorting. Preferably before EOD.

I'd normally give you the benefit of the doubt since this is your second game, but I also played in your first, and I did mention something similar then, since I was a bit more active D1 in that game because of how important my role was (I also thought I'd probably be a night target), and @Rej made a remark about me being more active that ususal as town.

My activity D1 is quite known, so the fact that you're concerned about that but didn't attempt to find out from my past games or from those I've played with seems to be either lazy, or scumy.

That being said, I get that you're still getting a feel for your playstyle as well, but it's easier to establish a town core D1 than lynch scum

Why is he attacking Gutsy's right to have that concern and not the concern itself?

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Please let us know your thought on Daed when you're done sorting. Preferably before EOD.

I'd normally give you the benefit of the doubt since this is your second game, but I also played in your first, and I did mention something similar then, since I was a bit more active D1 in that game because of how important my role was (I also thought I'd probably be a night target), and @Rej made a remark about me being more active that ususal as town.

My activity D1 is quite known, so the fact that you're concerned about that but didn't attempt to find out from my past games or from those I've played with seems to be either lazy, or scumy.

That being said, I get that you're still getting a feel for your playstyle as well, but it's easier to establish a town core D1 than lynch scum

Us?

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Unvote

Wanted to pressure Gutsy, but it seems he's not around and it's almost EOD and I don't think it makes sense to lynch him based on my concern, especially since it's only his second game, that being said. I'll still need a response from you @Gutsy

@Rej Why do you think @Daedalus is scummy?

Why them?

 

[Alexis2282AE]

His read on bitter doesn't even exist.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

He never mentions bitter in his reads. He never reacts to a bitter post. He never weighs in on the bitter wagon. He asks OTHER people what they think about bitter.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

There is zero probability that an active town player has NO thoughts about the primary lynch candidate.

 

[Alexis2282AE]

Even if your thought is "I don't know," even if it's "I haven't looked closely," even if it's "he seems like LHF to me". You'd SAY SOMETHING.