[Theory] Madara's Ultimate trumpcard = a Shocking truth = Obito is Madara !!

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It still seems plausible to me; it would explain a couple of things, like why "Tobi" acted as he did when he was still Deidara's partner (he did act a lot like Zetsu or Guruguru).
That simply is an act, it was an extreme version of his childhood self.

If he was actually Madara, then he wouldn't have been affected by Kakashi's comments earlier, and he wouldn't have been TNJ, and he wouldn't have flashbacks and no end of talking about Rin.

Its way too late for such a twist and it would make about a hundred chapters pointless.

Also Madara wouldn't have needed to create Black Zetsu to control him if that were the case.

Having Madara betraying Madara would be overly ridiculous not to mention it would make this entire arc absolutely pointless because Naruto already defeated Madara (if Tobi were Madara).
 
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Except that its not going to be revealed, Tobi isn't Madara, this theory is dead and buried.

Tobi is Obito deal with it.
tobi was being madara controlling obito..untill he and spiral zetsu emerged from obito's body when naruto extracted the bijuus from obito's body...TOBI IS MADARA...DEAL WITH IT!!!
 

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This makes sense. I mean madara was a scientist, too. Orochimaru was part of it. But he went on his own for his very own greed.
Orochimarus soul can take over another body. Nagato could control dead people with those black rods, humans spit water or fire or lava out of their mouths. ANIMALS CAN TALK.
The very same people who are saying this is a failthread are the ones who said the man behind the mask was Madara and not Obito.
 

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It still seems plausible to me; it would explain a couple of things, like why "Tobi" acted as he did when he was still Deidara's partner (he did act a lot like Zetsu or Guruguru).
bro kishimoto was creating a genjutsu in manga to fool the readers...you think a mystery that run for 4 years like tobi's would be revealed to be obito becuz of hair similarity and magic name trick obito = tobi??...of course not that was just the simplex part ..but be complex part wich contains that kishimoto's illusion will be revealed soon when the manga is about to end....tobi was always the 2nd madara controlling obito...and kishimoto said that the reall villain will show up soon..most likely its tobidara...lisnte plz in manga there's a rule the central villain is the one who is supposed to be the final villain..thus madar is finall villain becuz it was him the central villain in his form tobi controlling obito..bro im asking you to trust me ...and not let your self be fooled by kishimoto...go see episode itachi vs sasuke..see it over and over..how itachi was trying to explain sasuke that no matter what happens tobi is always madara...its as if kishi through itachi was hinting that tobi is indeed madara, but this truth will be very hard to belive (due to the obito part in tobi)...but in the end you are free to belive what you want
 

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This makes sense. I mean madara was a scientist, too. Orochimaru was part of it. But he went on his own for his very own greed.
Orochimarus soul can take over another body. Nagato could control dead people with those black rods, humans spit water or fire or lava out of their mouths. ANIMALS CAN TALK.
The very same people who are saying this is a failthread are the ones who said the man behind the mask was Madara and not Obito.
true...the reall orochimaru is still in jar of totsuka sword...but still oro was able to ressurect himself from anko's neck...
 

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oh look another person still in denial. Tobi=obito. As for why he acted like madara even to konan is because of 2 simple reasons-

1. His character is portrayed as the psychological one like every other,one who is in denial of his identity and is wearing a mask to hide his emotions which is burried in his subconscious presence.

2. It would be anti-climatic if he would've told about his real identity,as we readers were reading that seen.

Second,those panels,they just showed that his arm is healing,nothing more or nothing less.
when the 2nd madara emerge,remember me laughting at your stupidity !!
 

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I think the recent anime filler disproves this; it was definitely Obito with the flame mask as he used Kamui. I know it's filler but you can tell Kishi had a part in it.
 

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I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT.

Bullshit.

Tobi is Obito.
And there is only 1 Madara.

And please...stop with that "kishimoto is using genjutsu" bullshit, how old are you? 12?
 

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Man people think of the most ridiculous things, to make an attempt to predict some huge plot twist that doesn't exist.
You know it's not a bad thing to try to think outside of the box and reach some far-fetched conclusions as long as, ofc, you can back them up with some good arguments. He, however, tries to mislead people by giving his own interpretations and is unwilling to listen to logic. If you check this thread, you'll find me having a huge conversation with him trying to force him into answering to specific things, to which he was trying helplessly to avoid to.
 

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Good work with writing all of this, like so detailed. But for many reasons already explained, I disagree.
Obito was pretending to be Madara too well, ttebayo.
 

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The theory seems plausible, and it really does seem like there have been points in the manga where it wasn't actually Tobi, but someone else talking. The big highlights are when Tobi was fighting Konan, and when Tobi was acting all goofy (goofy Tobi). And it would make a lot of the things that Obito/Tobi did make more sense. I'm sure we will find out more in the next few chapters.
 
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