Madara's sharingan was not needed to awaken Rinnegan.

[KidGamer65]

Lol? I did read it, so there is nothing you have to remind me, but at the same time, I must tell you know very little about human body. Listen, even when a normal person becomes blind his other senses becomes more sharp. Waaay more sharp. A blind person will be able to hear something you wont be able to, he will be able to feel something you wont be able to. When a human brain loose one of its senses, its focuses more on the other ones - its that simple. Madara was completely blind when he was resurrected, but he was still able to kick some serious asses, so its not impossible for Itachi to do what he did in those chapters, even if he was completely blind.

Yeah, it focuses more on the other senses. It doesn't mean blind people will walk down the damn street like they can see. It doesn't mean blind people can function just as well as they can with their sight. Nothing but bullshit at its finest. Lol, the what hell am I even reading here? If anyone doesn't know anything about the human body, its clearly you, since you believe a blind Itachi would function just as well as an Itachi who could see.

Not to mention Itachi walked toward Sasuke and placed his finger right in between his eye, on his forehead. What sense helped him there huh? Not hearing, not touch, not taste, and not smell. Lol, again. Read the manga before you post BS, cause now this is getting pretty ridiculous.

And please don't reference Madara. Not only could he sense chakra (Which helps compensate for blindness) he had Sage Mode sensing,

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that it doesn't matter if you are blind or not as he is sensing the outlines of people, and their terrain.

Nope. Like I said, Itachis pupils were the same as Madaras.

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Both were completely blind. Sasukes pupils were clearly different, and he was still able to see something. ->

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Because of the white coloring in the manga. Not because he was blind, and Sasuke's were black because his Sharingan had a black background, which can be colored in the manga since its just black. That along with the fact that the anime, which is basically a colored and animated version of the manga, shows Itachi's eyes are red, not white. He simply lost the tomoe. Already replied to this nonsense.

 

[Turson]

It doesn't mean blind people will walk down the damn street like they can see.

Normal people, that is. We are talking about one of the most gifted shinobis in Naruto manga.

If anyone doesn't know anything about the human body, its clearly you

Actually, I have quite big knowledge about human body, altough Im no doctor. Im just interested in things like universe or nature.

And please don't reference Madara. Not only could he sense chakra (Which helps compensate for blindness) he had Sage Mode sensing

Nope, Madara was kicking some serious asses even before he got SM and sensing that comes along with it.

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As for Itachi, he couldnt see the Hydra at all, even though it was very big and right before him, he felt it. ->

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That along with the fact that the anime, which is basically a colored and animated version of the manga, shows Itachi's eyes are red, not white.

Naruto anime also shows that Itachis Susanoo is red, even though its yellow in manga, and that Sasukes Susanoo is purple, when its canonically blue, just like Madaras. To put it simply, anime doesnt matter. In manga both Itachis blind MS and Madaras EMS looks the same, Sasukes nealry blind MS looks clrearly different, thats what matters.

Read the manga before you post BS, cause now this is getting pretty ridiculous.

I could say the very same thing to you, but Im just going to say: dont be that full of yourself. Neither of us is omniscient.

 

[KidGamer65]

Normal people, that is. We are talking about one of the most gifted shinobis in Naruto manga.

Your point? It being manga doesn't automatically validate your point. Where is your retort to this?:

Not to mention Itachi walked toward Sasuke and placed his finger right in between his eye, on his forehead. What sense helped him there huh? Not hearing, not touch, not taste, and not smell.

Cause from what I can see, you don't have one. As expected though, you can only go so far when you are denying manga facts.

Nope, Madara was kicking some serious asses even before he got SM and sensing that comes along with it.

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Lol. "Kicking some serious ass" Are you kidding me? He Shunshin's past Naruto and Sai, and grabbed Hashirama. Something that is feasible even with NORMAL chakra sensing. Which Madara has. [

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] So again, you are wrong.

As for Itachi, he couldnt see the Hydra at all, even though it was very big and right before him, he felt it. ->

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Don't know where you got that BS from, but it certainly wasn't the manga. Him recognizing the feeling of the Hydra doesn't change the fact that he wasn't blind.

-Itachi can't see yet he chopped off its heads. [

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-Itachi can't see yet he clearly noted that Orochimaru was coming out after LOOKING at the Hydra to SEE that he was coming out. [

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-Stabbed Oro, but he couldn't see according to you. [

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So far your only retorts are "Its a manga, so blind Ninja can function just as well as normal Ninja" and "Anime doesn't matter".

Naruto anime also shows that Itachis Susanoo is red, even though its yellow in manga, and that Sasukes Susanoo is purple, when its canonically blue, just like Madaras. To put it simply, anime doesnt matter. In manga both Itachis blind MS and Madaras EMS looks the same, Sasukes nealry blind MS looks clrearly different, thats what matters.

Wrong. Anime does matter. That is Susanoo and these are his eyes. I have no reason to believe everything in the anime is different from what the manga shows just because of a few inconsistencies. Is Rasengan not Blue in the manga? Is the Sharingan not Red and Black in the manga? Lmao, nice try, but as usual, you make no sense.

And I've already explained why they look different. If you are going to act like an idiot and completely ignore that explanation and not bother to address it, then I'll accept your concession thus ending this argument.

I could say the very same thing to you, but Im just going to say: dont be that full of yourself. Neither of us is omniscient.

I don't need to omnisicient to use my eyes and brain to read and comprehend the manga that is right in front of me. Itachi could clearly see and you'd be an idiot to say otherwise.

 

[thatgirl]

Rasengan is actually yellow in the manga

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[KidGamer65]

Rasengan is actually yellow in the manga

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No its not.

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Something must be up with the image or a mistake must have been made, but I'll go with the color that is shown the most and the most recently.

 

[thatgirl]

Its a volume cover so the chances of kishi messing up are low

Naruto's chakra color is yellow so logically his rasengan would also be yellow

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the first volume cover you posted is minato using the rasengan as in the manga while naruto assisting him

where is the second image from?

 

[KidGamer65]

Its a volume cover so the chances of kishi messing up are low

Naruto's chakra color is yellow so logically his rasengan would also be yellow

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the first volume cover you posted is minato using the rasengan as in the manga while naruto assisting him

where is the second image from?

That's a Shonen Jump magazine cover.

But you have a point with the manga scan.

 

[Turson]

Lol. "Kicking some serious ass" Are you kidding me? He Shunshin's past Naruto and Sai, and grabbed Hashirama. Something that is feasible even with NORMAL chakra sensing. Which Madara has.

If Madara was able to grab Hashirama by his throat while being blind with normal chakra sensing (which is something that any shinobi has, a strong chakras can be sensed by any shinobi) then I dont see why Itachi wouldnt be able to put his finers between Sasukes eyes in the same conditions.

Don't know where you got that BS from, but it certainly wasn't the manga.

Nope, its not BS and its all in the manga.

-Itachi can't see yet he chopped off its heads.

Lol, you think it would be impossible to do for skilled shinobi, yet...

He Shunshin's past Naruto and Sai, and grabbed Hashirama.

That is completely normal for you. He not only blitzed past Naruto and Sai, he kicked them as well. What kind of twisted logic is that?

Wrong.

Lol? They look the same in the manga.

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Any normal person would be able to see it.

Is Rasengan not Blue in the manga?

Nope.

Lmao, nice try, but as usual, you make no sense.

As usual? We agreed more time times than not in the past, but when we disagree, you talk some trash like that. Learn to respect others, mate.

I don't need to omnisicient to use my eyes and brain to read and comprehend the manga that is right in front of me. Itachi could clearly see and you'd be an idiot to say otherwise.

Nope, Itachi couldnt see at all. If he couldnt see biggas Hydra that was right before him then I dont see how he could see anything.

 

[KidGamer65]

If Madara was able to grab Hashirama by his throat while being blind with normal chakra sensing (which is something that any shinobi has, a strong chakras can be sensed by any shinobi) then I dont see why Itachi wouldnt be able to put his finers between Sasukes eyes in the same conditions.

Madara can sense, Itachi can't unless you get me proof of him sensing or the bold. In fact he clearly says that he

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sense chakra. But of course, here we go again with you and your bullshit. Just remember that after this I'm never going to take a post from you seriously again.

Nope, its not BS and its all in the manga.

Knowing a feeling=/=Not being able to see. Sorry buddy. No evidence means you are spouting bullshit, as usual.

Lol, you think it would be impossible to do for skilled shinobi, yet...

That is completely normal for you. He not only blitzed past Naruto and Sai, he kicked them as well. What kind of twisted logic is that?

What the hell? He blitzed past them and knocked them down in the process, that is all. He didn't kick them, how the hell would he kick them while moving at a constant rate with no apparent changes in his form?

Lol? They look the same in the manga.

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Any normal person would be able to see it.

Any normal person who knows how to read would have read my explanation on why it looks the same. Because the manga isn't fucking colored. Something that I've said three times, something you need to get into your head.

Nope.

Irrelevant to my post.

As usual? We agreed more time times than not in the past, but when we disagree, you talk some trash like that. Learn to respect others, mate.

I respect others, just not people who look at something and try to twist it instead of seeing it for what it is. I talk trash in response to the trash that you are posting, if you don't like it, stop reading the manga and twisting it around. Stop denying evidence because you disagree. Stop completely ignoring parts of my post.

Nope, Itachi couldnt see at all. If he couldnt see biggas Hydra that was right before him then I dont see how he could see anything.

Lol, are you stupid or something? Not only is him knowing this feeling not conclusive evidence that he is completely blind, I posted multiple examples that show he could see, but you are disregarding them, just like you disregarded my explanation. With no counter. This is why you can't be taken seriously.

-Itachi can't see yet he chopped off its heads. [X] [X]

-Itachi can't see yet he clearly noted that Orochimaru was coming out after LOOKING at the Hydra to SEE that he was coming out. He looked up and said "Show you finally show yourself" yet he couldn't see? What kind of bullshit is this? [X]

-Stabbed Oro, but he couldn't see according to you. [X]

Counter or don't bother replying, cause now you are just wasting time.

Because of the white coloring in the manga. Not because he was blind, and Sasuke's were black because his Sharingan had a black background, which can be colored in the manga since its just black. That along with the fact that the anime, which is basically a colored and animated version of the manga, shows Itachi's eyes are red, not white. He simply lost the tomoe. Already replied to this nonsense.

In the manga the background for a normal Sharingan is white and black due to the lack of color. If he loses the tomoe, it would be WHITE.

The anime colored it red. Unless you have proof that the anime is contradicting this, then it goes. Case and point.

Counter or don't bother replying, cause now you are just wasting time.

 

[Bronze]

If Itachi can't sense, Naruto's kunai would have hit him. [

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] Itachi felt Naruto's clones coming from behind him without looking. Shinobi can feel other things without the need of sensory.​

 

[KidGamer65]

If Itachi can't sense, Naruto's kunai would have hit him. [

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] Itachi felt Naruto's clones coming from behind him without looking. Shinobi can feel other things without the need of sensory.​

Doesn't mean that its legit chakra sensory, not to mention a Kunai has no chakra, so how in the world can he sense it? Not to mention he already stated he can't sense.

Doesn't mean he can fight while blind, based on "ninja sensory". Not a chance.

 

[Bronze]

Doesn't mean that its legit chakra sensory, not to mention a Kunai has no chakra, so how in the world can he sense it? Not to mention he already stated he can't sense.

Doesn't mean he can fight while blind, based on "ninja sensory". Not a chance.

Did I say he can sense? No, I didn't. I said Shinobi can feel things through other factors.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Did I say he can sense? No, I didn't. I said Shinobi can feel things through other factors.​

Either way, its still irrelevant to this discussion.

 

[Bronze]

Either way, its still irrelevant to this discussion.

I merely replied to your discussion with Turson. And, Itachi was blind when manifesting Susanoo. Just saying.​

 

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I merely replied to your discussion with Turson. And, Itachi was blind when manifesting Susanoo. Just saying.​

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When was that stated?

 

[Turson]

Madara can sense, Itachi can't unless you get me proof of him sensing or the bold.

I already did it. ->

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In fact he clearly says that he can't sense chakra.

What he said is basically that hes not a sensor type, it doesnt mean he cant sense chakra at all. Like I said, any shinobi can sense chakras, some of them just specialize in this. We know that from the very beginning - when Naruto thought that Haku killed Sasuke and used Kyuubis chakra both Kakashi and Zabuza felt its powerful presence, even though that none of them is a sensor. We could also see that during this war, when Sasuke and Orochimaru felt Narutos chakra from very distant place.

What the hell? He blitzed past them and knocked them down in the process, that is all.

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Thats not what happened. Look closely. Madara blitzed to Naruto and knocked him off, then he changed his direction to Sai and did the same, then he changed his direction once again and grabbed Hashirama by his throat. Like I said, you are using very twisted logic. You dont believe that blind Itachi would be able to walk to Sasuke and poke his forehead or cut off bigass Hydras head, but at the same time you think its normal for blind Madara to blitz multiple opponents and grab Hashirama by his throat in the end. Did you see him groping Hashirama, looking for his throat? Me neither.

Any normal person who knows how to read would have read my explanation on why it looks the same. Because the manga isn't ****ing colored.

No shit, Sherlock. I know it isnt colored, but it doesnt change a fact that both pupils looks the same. Live with that.

The anime colored it red. Unless you have proof that the anime is contradicting this, then it goes.

Anime isnt canon, I already explained that.

Just remember that after this I'm never going to take a post from you seriously again.

Like I give a crap about your opinion. You know you are really something. As long as someone is agreeing with you its all ok, but when somebody disagrees you becomes clearly iritated. I had multiple though discussions with shelke when we had completely different opinion yet we still respect each other. I guess that nickname of yours, KidGamer65 trully fits you. Grow up kid, Im not gonna waste my time on this anymore.

 

[KidGamer65]

I merely replied to your discussion with Turson. And, Itachi was blind when manifesting Susanoo. Just saying.​

No, he wasn't. Don't know where you people are getting this from but he wasn't blind. He showed the ability to see just fine.

 

[Bronze]

No, he wasn't. Don't know where you people are getting this from but he wasn't blind. He showed the ability to see just fine.

-No longer maintained his MS and looked white just like the loss of using Izanagi
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Scan I posted shows he can feel presence. Shinobi can feel things through other factors. Simple and basic.​

 

[KidGamer65]

I already did it. ->

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What he said is basically that hes not a sensor type, it doesnt mean he cant sense chakra at all. Like I said, any shinobi can sense chakras, some of them just specialize in this. We know that from the very beginning - when Naruto thought that Haku killed Sasuke and used Kyuubis chakra both Kakashi and Zabuza felt its powerful presence, even though that none of them is a sensor. We could also see that during this war, when Sasuke and Orochimaru felt Narutos chakra from very distant place.

Lol? I knew you were stupid after seeing your posts during this discussion, but I didn't think you were this stupid. Yes, powerful chakra can be felt (BM Naruto's chakra being sensed by Orochimaru) and that if chakra is powerful enough, it creates a pressure which can be felt. That doesn't mean that ALL CHAKRA can be sensed BY ALL Ninja. Then they would be no different from sensor types. Lmao, use your brain please, cause it seems that you forgot how.

If Itachi can't sense Kabuto's chakra, why the hell would be able to sense Orochimaru's weaker chakra? Again, think before you post.

If all ninja could sense all chakra, why the hell was Karin the ONLY one out of Taka (The only one who is a sensor type)

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after he got stabbed by Madara? Why was she the

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to feel Kabuto's chakra?

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to sense Naruto's chakra after he had lost Kurama. If all Ninja could sense all chakra, then that wouldn't be necessary.

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Thats not what happened. Look closely. Madara blitzed to Naruto and knocked him off, then he changed his direction to Sai and did the same, then he changed his direction once again and grabbed Hashirama by his throat. Like I said, you are using very twisted logic. You dont believe that blind Itachi would be able to walk to Sasuke and poke his forehead or cut off bigass Hydras head, but at the same time you think its normal for blind Madara to blitz multiple opponents and grab Hashirama by his throat in the end. Did you see him groping Hashirama, looking for his throat? Me neither.

Lol, again, what the hell are you showing me? Madara didn't kick shit, he ran past both of them (What I said) and knocked them over. He doesn't need to see to do that since he knows their position via CHAKRA SENSING. If you know where something is and you close your eyes and run toward it, what's going to happen? Oh wait, you are going to hit it, tard. lmao.

Itachi can't sense chakra, Madara can. What do you not get about that simply fact?

No shit, Sherlock. I know it isnt colored, but it doesnt change a fact that both pupils looks the same. Live with that.

Itachi can't see yet he chopped off its heads. [X] [X]

-Itachi can't see yet he clearly noted that Orochimaru was coming out after LOOKING at the Hydra to SEE that he was coming out. He looked up and said "Show you finally show yourself" yet he couldn't see? What kind of bullshit is this? [X]

-Stabbed Oro, but he couldn't see according to you. [X]

Because of the white coloring in the manga. Not because he was blind, and Sasuke's were black because his Sharingan had a black background, which can be colored in the manga since its just black. That along with the fact that the anime, which is basically a colored and animated version of the manga, shows Itachi's eyes are red, not white. He simply lost the tomoe. Already replied to this nonsense.

I see that your dumbass is STILL ignoring chunks of my post.

Anime isnt canon, I already explained that.

You are disregarding the anime simply because

Like I give a crap about your opinion. You know you are really something. As long as someone is agreeing with you its all ok, but when somebody disagrees you becomes clearly iritated. I had multiple though discussions with shelke when we had completely different opinion yet we still respect each other. I guess that nickname of yours, KidGamer65 trully fits you. Grow up kid, Im not gonna waste my time on this anymore.

I don't care when people disagree with me, especially when they have good arguments. People like Zexion, Bogard. I disagree with them, but they bring good arguments, so I no reason to get irritated. What's annoying is when an idiot disagrees with me, and when we argue, completely IGNORES evidence and makes bullshit up in his favor. I'm practically READING the manga to you at this point and you are STILL denying it. When you take your head OUT of your ass and actually learn how to read, then maybe you can be taken seriously.

 

[KidGamer65]

-No longer maintained his MS and looked white just like the loss of using Izanagi​

Turson used this same exact point. Read my reply, cause it explains everything.

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Inventing stuff up too now are we? He said he knew this feeling, not that he could only feel it nor did he say that he was blind.

Scan I posted shows he can feel presence. Shinobi can feel things through other factors. Simple and basic.

Any Ninja can feel a presence, doesn't mean they can function well when completely blind nor does it mean they can sense as well as ACTUAL sensors. Nor does it mean that they know the exact position, of everything. I don't know what is so hard for you two to understand about this.

Itachi can't see yet he chopped off its heads. [X] [X]

-Itachi can't see yet he clearly noted that Orochimaru was coming out after LOOKING at the Hydra to SEE that he was coming out. He looked up and said "Show you finally show yourself" yet he couldn't see? [X]

-Stabbed Oro, but he couldn't see according to you. [X]

That is directly from my last two posts. If you are going to repeat everything he already stated (which was utter nonsense) then there is no point in replying.