yes i see your point too.
my answer would be to simply endure and never give up in your way of achieving peace....that way you can pass your ideals to the next generation,next generation of children get raised better through your way of teaching them the best way of achieving true peace through understanding and love and forgiveness...and that way the new generations will continue your path and with each generation the probability of there being a new madara will lessen....the point is to never give up and stick with your path
i believe true peace can be achieved....it`s utopia at best but i still believe it can be done
Yah but Hashi's idea of peace was similar to that and we all know what happened to Konoha, and that's why I want Kishi to give Naruto some nice answer which will make him different from from his predecessors, rather a better version of it. Understanding each other isn't the best way to achieve peace actually because just like I said hatred is part of human nature too, I want to know how Naruto finds answer to it.
i think that naruto answer will related to bijuu and daimyo
Daimyo, seriously what they actually did throughout the manga to call them even notable people.
Bijuus yes, he will found an answer to that hatred, but what about shinobi peace?
The most realistic actual solution would be just trying your best (at whatever you like/want the most) in this corrupt, dangerous world while accepting its realities since "true" peace will never happen as long as humans remain humans. But for the sake of interesting story/at least some sort of conflict we must have a protagonist and an antagonist with extreme, radical views on what to do with the world.
Ya, but that's what makes Naruto different for me, an if author wants to have such a great issue as theme of his manga, if he must give some result or rather present the things as they are.
Both of them are idealist. I mean Madara wants to create a Dreamland,hardly realism don't you think? I like Tobirama's strategy when it comes to ninja world which is kind of combination of Madara's and Hashirama's. I think Sasuke is like that too.
Madara is more realistic because creating a dream world is possible in NV(even if it is impossible in human world), unlike creating an understanding in the people who killed each other from generations, it is actually part of their nature.Tobirama actually took few stern decisions to develop Konoha, I don't consider him having 'peace ideology'.
I don't support either of them.
Madara essentially wants to take people's free-will away in this "dream world"
Naruto is naive enough to think hatred as a whole can be removed and if he does "remove it" that's also taking free-will away
Just like I said hatred is part of human/shinobi nature, at least Madara is trying something which is possible, Naruto never explains us, what he is going to do.
I thought Naruto's idealism was to endure hatred and break the cycle of vengence. When Kakashi said he found someone to believe in, Obito asked if such a light existed and how difficult the task would be. Naruto basically affects everyone he enounters, and right now he's had the main stage for a large part of the war.
I think the OP is looking too hard into it. Peace it self is unrealistic but its an ideal to hold on to and something the ninja world lost.
He affected everyone, but if Sasuke returns to village tomorrow, will someone like Raikage accept him?
I amnot looking too hard into it, rather I want this manga to have good conclusion on philosophical point of view, because at the end I am Naruto fan, and want Naruto to be portrayed as protagonist on psychological front too.