Madara: Well or badly written villain?

[paratise]

I think it has to do more with Kishi's inability to kill ''important'' characters and his villains,not just Madara, are getting bashed for being luckster,they have lost that threatening nature they had.
examples
Orochimaru is ''good'' now.
Madara is playing around with Hashirama.
Obito,even as the Juubi's jin,is getting trolled from Kurama's haxxed cloaks. Lol

It is maybe more about how story and the "war" is going right now.
Open field. Everyone is on the place. Villains vs good guys; point blank. Kishi either wipe everyone or keep all alive; since if had been made other way; it look retarded like Neji's death. And this was Madara before Hashi came. Now he got worse.

He's mediocre, tbh.

He's only relevant to this Arc. His goal is similar to Obito, but it's more justified than Obito's. After years of war, found a friend and had a dream. Couldn't be friends because they were on different sides of the war. Soon when the became the head of the family, they put aside their differences and created a village. He ran because the village didn't want him to be Hokage. The Uchiha Clan didn't trust him. Thus, making him believe he couldn't keep his little brother's promise and protect the Uchiha.

How Kishi is portraying Madara is a guy who enjoys fighting strong people.(Hashirama) We know Obito hate reality, but with Madara it's hard to tell. So it's like... why the hell do you want the Moon's Eye Plan?

That seems to sum it up.

 

[Lilgeezy]

To me tho he's villany if there's anything like dat has seemed to diminish since he defeated the hokages. He's been on the decline sine nd I agree with the laziness part. Madara is Lazy

 

[paratise]

Guys, keep one thing in mind, you can't stitch even the events occuring in the narutoverse, if it wouldn't have been for Madara. That means if you like Naruto, you need to like Madara's character script, or else I don't have anything to say, since you people are on

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This Video :
[video=youtube;iye5agR1FZA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iye5agR1FZA[/video]

Video is more about plot relevancy; not about his characteristics and development which matters a lot for a main villain.
Clearly someone who likes and knows Madara did it; but it convinced me to think that he is more like a plot device for all those occurences and some things happened through manga.

 

[Renpatsu Dei]

Cliched as ****. His motivations don't really seem to be there, essentially based on a hunch, and he doesn't seem to care about his 'goal'. Kishi let himself down with Madara, he's done much better with the other villains in the series.

 

[Fodder#4]

Guys, keep one thing in mind, you can't stitch even the events occuring in the narutoverse, if it wouldn't have been for Madara. That means if you like Naruto, you need to like Madara's character script, or else I don't have anything to say, since you people are on

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This Video :
[video=youtube;iye5agR1FZA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iye5agR1FZA[/video]

About as intelligent as a thread from Madara Rules. Br only did t twist facts but it never went into why he wants the moon eye plan, his goal. And whoever made it tried to give Madara credit for Obito's manipulation? Just wow

 

[paratise]

Cliched as ****. His motivations don't really seem to be there, essentially based on a hunch, and he doesn't seem to care about his 'goal'. Kishi let himself down with Madara, he's done much better with the other villains in the series.

True. Most of the Akatsuki were better written as characters and villains imo.

About as intelligent as a thread from Madara Rules. Br only did t twist facts but it never went into why he wants the moon eye plan, his goal. And whoever made it tried to give Madara credit for Obito's manipulation? Just wow

Exactly; video makes him more like a plot device; it did not got into character depth by one bit if we don't count "not giving a phuck"

 

[mikeeozua]

True. Most of the Akatsuki were better written as characters and villains imo.



Exactly; video makes him more like a plot device; it did not got into character depth by one bit if we don't count "not giving a phuck"

Kishi's greatest villains were Orochimaru and Pain IMO. I really didn't like how Nagato just gave in to Naruto's words.

 

[Nous]

He was good prior to him coming to the battlefield with Obito. After that, horrible handeling by Kishimoto.

 

[paratise]

Kishi's greatest villains were Orochimaru and Pain IMO. I really didn't like how Nagato just gave in to Naruto's words.

I like both of them most too...
Though tnj+book indeed pooped on Nagato.

He was good prior to him coming to the battlefield with Obito. After that, horrible handeling by Kishimoto.

He was still blank to me; but still had room to progress.
Yet he did not progressed much in temrs of character.

 

[Cosman]

Kishi's greatest villains were Orochimaru and Pain IMO. I really didn't like how Nagato just gave in to Naruto's words.

I suspect editor pushing on this one. Not sure how good it is to have sociopath villain massacre a village and then die as the villain. Bringing them back to life and that ending was so awful, it had to come from somewhere else.

I'm sticking with that, to be honest.

 

[adeshina365]

His back story is well written, but his current characterization is badly written.

 

[Naruto99Uzumaki]

madara is god , there is now more perfect than a god

 

[kuramasage]

He was ok when he was initially revived and fought the Kages. Except for how rushed it was when he gave up his childhood friendship with Hashirama, he was actually pretty good in Hashirama's flashback. Other than those two time periods however, he's pretty terrible. What are his motives? Why doesn't he give a f**k about anything? How come his evil demeanor is so contradictory to why he turned evil in the flashback?

 

[Young Vongola]

IMO the only well-written antagonists in this series were Zabuza, Orochimaru, pt 1 Gaara, and Nagato/Pain

 

[The Western Wheel]

Actually quite good, could've had more panels and the panels we got from him are too Hashi-obsessed. However, given more depth about his in between run-ins with Hashi, he could be the bomb.

It's much like Sasuke... one-dimensional, but heeh... so is Aizen.

 

[paratise]

madara is god , there is now more perfect than a god

Basicly he is strong?
Meh.

He was ok when he was initially revived and fought the Kages. Except for how rushed it was when he gave up his childhood friendship with Hashirama, he was actually pretty good in Hashirama's flashback. Other than those two time periods however, he's pretty terrible. What are his motives? Why doesn't he give a f**k about anything? How come his evil demeanor is so contradictory to why he turned evil in the flashback?

This is what am i saying.

IMO the only well-written antagonists in this series were Zabuza, Orochimaru, pt 1 Gaara, and Nagato/Pain

They are my faves too...

 

[elsepa]

After Obito became jinchuriki he got trolled big time, but before that he was a good villain imo

 

[H a n]

He is a hardcore boss.. Oro still the best villain though.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

To me he is more like a "warrior" than a villain... I mean he has too much honor/pride to be a dirty villain. Just look at him, he doesn't even care about succeeding in his plans as long as he could fight with Hashi

The creepiest villain has to be Orochimaru, he only fights battles that he could win, and resorts to any methods (no matter how dirty) to win. The dude gives other villains a hard-on

He is the most bossest character though... I don't think anyone could even come close to his OPness...

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Probably the greatest, and most breath-taking jutsu in the history of the naruto-verse!

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Look at his battle-loving face when he senses Hashi, he is like a Saiyan lol

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[paratise]

To me he is more like a "warrior" than a villain... I mean he has too much honor/pride to be a dirty villain. Just look at him, he doesn't even care about succeeding in his plans as long as he could fight with Hashi

The creepiest villain has to be Orochimaru, he only fights battles that he could win, and resorts to any methods (no matter how dirty) to win. The dude gives other villains a hard-on

He is the most bossest character though... I don't think anyone could even come close to his OPness...

İ do agree that he is OP.
But that does not make his characterization better.

"More of a warrior than villain" can be said for him though. Not giving a phuck about his goals just so he can fight with Hashi is taking his villain points. It seems he does not give a shit to his years worth of plans; therefore he does not seem like much of a threat as a villain.