[VS] Madara VS Obito

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KidGamer65

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You speak as if in this blink of an eye while Obito inhales and exhales fire the pollen will make him go asleep. Doesn't work like that. Not to mention, Obito will use the katon as soon as Madara will use Flower Tree World
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Within seconds of its activation the Gokage got put to sleep due to inhaling the pollen.


Obito inhaling to use Katon means he inhales the pollen and it enters his body. Once its in his body a few seconds pass and he falls asleep.

Obito is going to use Katon right after Madara's FTW despite him not even having intel on it? No.


Isn't Black Zetsu made from Madara? He knew of Susanoo, Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, which are jutsus Madara has.

Regardless of if he has intel or not via Black Zetsu (Which can't even prove he does) he still gets put to sleep.
 

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Within seconds of its activation the Gokage got put to sleep due to inhaling the pollen.


Obito inhaling to use Katon means he inhales the pollen and it enters his body. Once its in his body a few seconds pass and he falls asleep.

Obito is going to use Katon right after Madara's FTW despite him not even having intel on it? No.

mfw 3 manga pages mean seconds.

Guess Jiraiya needs 5 seconds to enter Sage Mode then.

And yes Obito would use fire BECAUSE A HUGE FREAKING FOREST IS COMING TO SMASH HIM.
 

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mfw 3 manga pages mean seconds.

Guess Jiraiya needs 5 seconds to enter Sage Mode then.

And yes Obito would use fire BECAUSE A HUGE FREAKING FOREST IS COMING TO SMASH HIM.

If you clearly look at the events that took place, it was clearly only a few seconds.

-Madara uses FTW
-Kage fly above it.
-Madara smacks them back down.
-Uses Katon.
-Mei tries to use Suiton and then she falls asleep.

If you think these events took anywhere near a minute to complete then you clearly can't read and understand the manga you're reading.

Either way. He uses Katon like you claim and he inhales the pollen. GG.
 

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If you clearly look at the events that took place, it was clearly only a few seconds.

-Madara uses FTW
-Kage fly above it.
-Madara smacks them back down.
-Uses Katon.
-Mei tries to use Suiton and then she falls asleep.

If you think these events took anywhere near a minute to complete then you clearly can't read and understand the manga you're reading.

Either way. He uses Katon like you claim and he inhales the pollen. GG.

Nah, he uses Katon as soon as FTW begins and burns the pollen.

-Madara uses FTW
-Kage fly above it.
-Madara smacks them back down.
-Uses Katon.

Yeah this ain't happening in just a few seconds, sorry.
 

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Nah, he uses Katon as soon as FTW begins and burns the pollen.

Please, not even Madara's Katon is enough to burn down the forest in just one blast.


If the forest isn't destroyed, pollen keeps on being produced and Obito breathes it in.

Not to mention you've failed to prove he has intel so this stupid tactic isn't even going to be used.

Yeah this ain't happening in just a few seconds, sorry.

Its not happening in anywhere near a minute either.

If you can't read a simple manga and understand the events that take place it isn't my problem.
 

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That Katon you linked is smaller than the Juubi-sized Katon Obito used.

As for the tactic, what else can he do if a giant forest is coming his way, other than burning it? It's the logical thing to do.

That or he warps behind Madara with Kamui.
 

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That Katon you linked is smaller than the Juubi-sized Katon Obito used.

As for the tactic, what else can he do if a giant forest is coming his way, other than burning it? It's the logical thing to do.

That or he warps behind Madara with Kamui.

Its the same exact move.

Either way, the pollen is still going to get him.

-He can't burn the source with his Katon alone.
-He needs to become tangible to warp. If he does that he inhales the pollen.
 

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Madara has no counter for kamui.Also imo 6 bijuus would rape perfect susano
 

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Madara has no counter for kamui.Also imo 6 bijuus would rape perfect susano

Flower Tree World+Mokuton Clones>Kamui.
Mokuton and rapes any Bijuu by restricting them allowing him to destroy the chakra receivers.
 

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If Obito has his jins he wins.

Madara's Mokuton isn't able to restrict 6 bijuus at the same time while also defending from Obito.

Flower tree world gets destroyed by a single bijuudama while the other 5 destroy Madara.
 

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If Obito has his jins he wins.

Madara's Mokuton isn't able to restrict 6 bijuus at the same time while also defending from Obito.

Flower tree world gets destroyed by a single bijuudama while the other 5 destroy Madara.

That's what clones are for, he doesn't need to try and focus on all of them at once when he can simply make clones so he can divide his attention. Mokuton already bound Bee in Full Hachibi mode and he wasn't able to move an inch until Guys Hirudora blasted Madara away.

Bijuus are bound with their chakra receivers are located as Madara can sense, then he smashes them.

Flower Tree World is only to be used AFTER the Bijuu are defeated not before.
 

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When did a mokubunshin show the ability to restrain a Bijuu?

The most they did was a bastardized Susanoo that Tsunade punched around effortlessly and whose attacks were blocked by Gaara's automatic shield.
 

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When did a mokubunshin show the ability to restrain a Bijuu?

The most they did was a bastardized Susanoo that Tsunade punched around effortlessly and whose attacks were blocked by Gaara's automatic shield.

First of all clones can use the abilities of the original. Besides, Mokuton Clones can obviously use Mokuton as its been displayed through Yamato, and they are clones.

Bee almost got fodderized by Edo Madara once he was restrained. Naruto had to save him.
 

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First of all clones can use the abilities of the original. Besides, Mokuton Clones can obviously use Mokuton as its been displayed through Yamato, and they are clones.

Bee almost got fodderized by Edo Madara once he was restrained. Naruto had to save him.

Sure, they can use the abilities the original has, but does Madara have enough chakra to use Mokuton after creating 25 bunshins?

Edo doesn't give you an infinite chakra pool, else Madara would have 25 Perfect Susanoos. It simply makes your already existing one regenerate fast.

The strongest jutsu Mad's clones displayed was Susanoo and these Susanoo were much weaker than the original.

So no, whatever Mokuton they can use is a joke compared to the original.
 

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Sure, they can use the abilities the original has, but does Madara have enough chakra to use Mokuton after creating 25 bunshins?

Edo doesn't give you an infinite chakra pool, else Madara would have 25 Perfect Susanoos. It simply makes your already existing one regenerate fast.

The strongest jutsu Mad's clones displayed was Susanoo and these Susanoo were much weaker than the original.

So no, whatever Mokuton they can use is a joke compared to the original.

Assuming that he needs to make anywhere near 25 of them?

-Yes you are.

He only needs at most two. To restrain the Bijuu with Mokuton branches and hold off Obito.
 

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Assuming that he needs to make anywhere near 25 of them?

-Yes you are.

He only needs at most two. To restrain the Bijuu with Mokuton branches and hold off Obito.

Imma quote you real fast.

If you don't have a scan with him doing it, he can't

Madara's clones are way weaker than the original. Fact.

Yamato's Mokuton is in no way able to restrict a Bijuu. Fact.

Madara's clones have shown Mokuton. False.
 

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Imma quote you real fast.



Madara's clones are way weaker than the original. Fact.

Yamato's Mokuton is in no way able to restrict a Bijuu. Fact.

Madara's clones have shown Mokuton. False.

Stop using an instance where he divided his power by 25 times for a debate where he only needs to divide it twice or even three times at most. Go learn how clones work before replying again.

Yamato's Mokuton level has nothing to do with anything, so why are you even mentioning it here?

Clones can use the original's abilities. FACT. Not debatable. End of story.

You know, you are actually pretty stupider than I thought.

-You needed to provide a scan because Deva didn't show nor was it stated he had that kind of ability.

-I don't need to provide a scan cause its already been proven and stated that clones can utilize the original's abilities.

End. Of. Story.
 

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-I don't need to provide a scan cause its already been proven and stated that clones can utilize the original's abilities.

Sure they can, but their abilities are weaker, as shown with the 25 susanoos.

No proof whatsoever that Madara's clones can restrict Bijuus.

You know, you are actually pretty stupider than I thought.

And you're a gay weaboo, but hey, we all have opinions.
 

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Sure they can, but their abilities are weaker, as shown with the 25 susanoos.

No proof whatsoever that Madara's clones can restrict Bijuus.

They were that much weaker because he split his power 25 times. He only needs to make one clone and that's it.

Read the manga pal.

Mokuton restricts Bijuu.


Madara has Mokuton.


Clones can use the abilities of the original.

Madara's clones use Mokuton and Bijuus end up like this.


FACT. Not disputable. If you want to dispute it then you go dispute it somewhere else with someone who wants to listen to bs.

And you're a gay weaboo, but hey, we all have opinions.

Lmao, Gay weaboo? Do you even know what a weaboo is?
 

pateuvasiliu

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Yes. You get angry over anime discussions.

You are a weaboo.

Madara's clones use Mokuton and Bijuus end up like this.

No, they don't.

Even with 1 clone Madara's Mokuton power would already be split in half.

He is not restricting 6 bijuus.
 
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