[VS] Madara VS Obito

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Sennin of Logic

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Since they're the 2 main villains, both are awesome and insanely powerful, I though I'd compare the 2. Their arsenal is enormous, so I'll go with the main jutsu. If you don't want the huge details and just want my explanation on why who wins, skip to below.

Madara:

He has great fire annihilation which is so big and powerful, it took multiple water walls to stop it!O_O
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there's also dragon flame, which was shown to be strong enough to break through stone walls.

His fan absorbs chakra and redirects it at his enemies (have no idea if it works on nature transformation or not)
He also has been known to use his fan to use wind style. (read it in narutowiki)
It also can make barriers.
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He can use wood style deep forest emergence, dragon, and that flower with the knock out pollen.

He has the rinnegan but only demonstrated preta path (if he had deva path, he would have used it against Lee). He can combine it with susanoo to summon meteors.

We all know what perfect susanoo is capable of. Anti matter sword that can slice through mountains that it didn't touch (but miraculously, the kage were for the most part, unharmed). As for durability, when attached to Kurama, it tanked a small TBB (but it probably was weakened since the longer the range, the less the power).

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Obito:

Has fireball jutsu and the kamui fire that is equal in size (and probably power) to great fire annihilation.
He might not be quite as skilled in wood style as Hashiram or Madara, but there's no denying his skill. He has wood spikes and can throw them into enemies and have them grow more spikes once inside. His has regen. He can also use wood style to a larger scale.
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He can make barriers that the 8 tails failed to penetrate with physical strength.

His kamui allows himself to slip through attacks fro 5 minutes and can teleport very quickly.
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As we all know, Obito can absorb and bind people with kamui and can fire giant ninja tools out of his dimension.

Obito also has the rinnegan. It's same to assume that he can use all 6 paths, but not simultaneously with kamui. Kakashi theorized that Obito was purposely not using the 6 paths and Obito confirmed this. Kabuto was also hesitant to defy him because he had the rinnegan.
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And last but not least, he has control over gedo statue and 6 edo jinchuriki.




Over all, I think Obito would win. The edo jinchuriki give Obito striking power comparable to Madara's. Madara has plenty of powerful attacks, but kamui makes 90% of them useless. Objects can move freely in susanoo once inside of it's shell, so that makes it easy for Obito to counter PS. Obito broke Kushina's seal really quickly, so he has to be good at sealing.

The only real threat is Madara's genjutsu (but Obito is skilled in it as well) and the flower. However, Obito can easily counter it by using fire style to incinerate what makes the pollen, use wood style to uproot it, or use the edo jinchuriki to decimate it with TBB. I think Obito is the strongest ninja since the SO6P.

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Shura

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I say Obito wins. :yeah:
 

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Edo Madara > Obito > EMS Madara.
PS: Signatures of such ginormous sizes are against the rules.
 

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Obito has Six Bodies who all have the Rin'negan and the Mangekyo Sharingan. Madara has no known counter for Kamui and Obito also has formidable Genjutsu and Taijutsu as well as Ninjutsu (Katon etc.). Obito is overall better and would win in an all out fight.
 

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Edo Madara and EMS Madara are both stronger than Obito, but EMS Madara can't deal with Kamui so he gets outlasted.

Edo Madara uses Mokuton and Susanoo to rape his Jinchuuriki, destroy the chakra receivers and then Flower Tree World+Mokuton Bunshin finishes Obito.
 

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Yea its hard to go against madara like the dude can make 15 susano'o but i think kumui gives him an edge
 

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madara is "stronger" but obito will win because madara will underestimate him and get himself warped
 

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Edo Madara and EMS Madara are both stronger than Obito, but EMS Madara can't deal with Kamui so he gets outlasted.

Edo Madara uses Mokuton and Susanoo to rape his Jinchuuriki, destroy the chakra receivers and then Flower Tree World+Mokuton Bunshin finishes Obito.

This sums it up!
 

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Edo Madara and EMS Madara are both stronger than Obito, but EMS Madara can't deal with Kamui so he gets outlasted.

Edo Madara uses Mokuton and Susanoo to rape his Jinchuuriki, destroy the chakra receivers and then Flower Tree World+Mokuton Bunshin finishes Obito.

Obito can uproot it with his own wood style. Or he could burn whatever makes the pollen. Let's not forget that Obito could use deva path to uproot it as well.
 

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Obito can uproot it with his own wood style. Or he could burn whatever makes the pollen. Let's not forget that Obito could use deva path to uproot it as well.

Obito's Mokuton is no where near the scale of Flower Tree World, he isn't uprooting anything.

Obito's Fire Style isn't big enough to burn the whole forest, not to mention you have to inhale to use Katon, when he does that he inhales the pollen and falls asleep GG.

Not to mention he has no intel on it so there is no reason for him to try and do anything about it. He gets put to sleep.
 

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Obito's Fire Style isn't big enough to burn the whole forest, not to mention you have to inhale to use Katon

He can inhale through his mouth, plus the heat from the katon will destroy the pollen.

About his katons being too small, they are roughly as large as the Juubi.

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Not to mention he has no intel on it so there is no reason for him to try and do anything about it.

That's debatable. If there's one person who should have intel on Mads it's Obito. The guy was his master for years.
 

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u cant compare anyone to madara uchiha,hes the sage of six paths ,seriously....if you have a justu called heaven consealed....u must be the strongest,even his susanoo can weave hand signs and activate justus
 

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He can inhale through his mouth, plus the heat from the katon will destroy the pollen.

About his katons being too small, they are roughly as large as the Juubi.

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That's debatable. If there's one person who should have intel on Mads it's Obito. The guy was his master for years.

nahhh, remember naruto with kyuubi chackra wasnt able to reasengan one tree....one of madaras tree,thts sad im sorry obito doesnt stand a chance madara will murder anyone ,its stated in the manga ...madara said the only thing that has a chance of ending my life is the power of the nine tails ,which is naruto other than tht no one is beating him at all
 

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He can inhale through his mouth, plus the heat from the katon will destroy the pollen.
And that makes a difference how? If he inhales through his mouth (which you have to with all Katon) he ends up breathing in the pollen and it will get into his system and he will fall asleep.

About his katons being too small, they are roughly as large as the Juubi.

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Yeah, you're right about the size being enough, but once he inhales to use it its over.

That's debatable. If there's one person who should have intel on Mads it's Obito. The guy was his master for years.

Most of the time Obito was with Madara, the latter was asleep. There is nothing that implies he has intel on Madara's Mokuton techniques obtained from Hashirama.
 

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And that makes a difference how? If he inhales through his mouth (which you have to with all Katon) he ends up breathing in the pollen and it will get into his system and he will fall asleep.

Yeah, but the Katon comes not a second after he inhales polen, melting whatever is in the polen that makes him go asleep.

Most of the time Obito was with Madara, the latter was asleep. There is nothing that implies he has intel on Madara's Mokuton techniques obtained from Hashirama.

He's worn Zetsu on his body for a while and his body is -MADE- of Hashirama's cells. So much time spent with Zetsu suggests he would know of it.

It's not like Flower Tree world is the most complex technique in the world.
 

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Yeah, but the Katon comes not a second after he inhales polen, melting whatever is in the polen that makes him go asleep.
Not when its already inside of him. When he inhales the pollen will enter his mouth, go down his throat and enter his body. Pollen is carried with the air.


He's worn Zetsu on his body for a while and his body is -MADE- of Hashirama's cells. So much time spent with Zetsu suggests he would know of it.

It's not like Flower Tree world is the most complex technique in the world.

Why would Zetsu know about Hashirama's techniques? Having his cells isn't going to magically give him knowledge of all Hashirama's jutsu. Nothing suggests he would know of it.
 

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this isnt even debatable. madara has been portrayed as the strongest on the battlefield prior to hashiramas revival. he would stomp obito.
 

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Not when its already inside of him. When he inhales the pollen will enter his mouth, go down his throat and enter his body. Pollen is carried with the air.

You speak as if in this blink of an eye while Obito inhales and exhales fire the pollen will make him go asleep. Doesn't work like that. Not to mention, Obito will use the katon as soon as Madara will use Flower Tree World.

Why would Zetsu know about Hashirama's techniques?

Isn't Black Zetsu made from Madara? He knew of Susanoo, Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, which are jutsus Madara has.

this isnt even debatable. madara has been portrayed as the strongest on the battlefield prior to hashiramas revival. he would stomp obito.

I'm not saying Obito wins.

Honestly I don't even know why he is put up against an Edo.

He has the rinnegan but only demonstrated preta path (if he had deva path, he would have used it against Lee). He can combine it with susanoo to summon meteors.

He uses Deva Path to pull the meteors down. He uses Almighty Pull.
 
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