Madara using Susaanoo with no eyes [Theory]

Uchiha Samater

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sorry bt i cant see he saying awaking it will blind you or smthing close to that.

''From the day you awaken it, your eyes begin a slow descent into darkness''

pretty clear, that regardless, awakening it will cause blindness, and constant usage speeds it up

Which was evident at how fast Sasuke went blind.

It also makes a good point to how good Itachi was to last that long with eyesight
 

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during the fight with Naruto and Kakashi, sasuke still had his eye sight intact.!!

so if what you are saying is right, and susanoo and sharingan dont share any connection after unlocking then,
sasuke shouldnt lose his eye sight.!!

it doesnt matter how many times he used his MS tech previously.!!

since in the fight with Naruto and Kakashi, sasuke never actually used any MS tech.!!

so his eye sight should be in his previously set standard and shouldnot lose sight.!!


Check my last post
 

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the only reason the eyes are required to awaken it is so that the traumatic event can be visually experienced. so that the change can occur in the brain.. you need both eyes to cause the change in both brainhalves.
 

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''From the day you awaken it, your eyes begin a slow descent into darkness''

pretty clear, that regardless, awakening it will cause blindness, and constant usage speeds it up

Which was evident at how fast Sasuke went blind.

It also makes a good point to how good Itachi was to last that long with eyesight

sasuke use his eys too much tahts wt with him.

abt darkness there is so many times his power and chakra describe as dark powers.hope u remember the moments.jst one for you

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sasuke use his eys too much tahts wt with him.

abt darkness there is so many times his power and chakra describe as dark powers.hope u remember the moments.jst one for you

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Im not sure what you meant

But the scan i gave was explicitly clear you go blind, from top to bottom
 

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i blieve micheal jordan already made this thread.

he was one of the first
 

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Im not sure what you meant

But the scan i gave was explicitly clear you go blind, from top to bottom

its not say by awaking u go blind.its says darkness that mean dark power.sasukes power and chakra describe as dark many times after he awakan it. look there thete is even a chapter as power of darkness the one sasuke shows susano. Ch- 464
 
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Then what's the point of EMS... Madara, Itachi & Sasuke could have implanted any eyes. They would have still had their Susanoo.
 

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its not say by awaking u go blind.its says darkness that mean dark power.sasukes power and chakra describe as dark many times after he awakan it. look there thete is even a chapter as power of darkness the one sasuke shows susano. Ch- 464

Look at the page what is Itachi's final line
 

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the only reason the eyes are required to awaken it is so that the traumatic event can be visually experienced. so that the change can occur in the brain.. you need both eyes to cause the change in both brainhalves.

So how did Kakashi get Mangekyo? or..Obito for that matter?
 

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i'd like to put this possibillity forward for you lot to debate about:eek:ther than genjutus and izanagi/izanami, wich are actual ocular prowels, a sharingan makes you capable of mastering a jutsu further than a normal human being could.. the path of pain's abillities were never just the sage's, they were just extremely well executed jutsu that require molding and control that a normal human being never could...

chakra absorbtion
advanced fire jutsu
bringing a soul back from the dead, or even in that old lady wich i forgot the name of, complete ressurection.
chakra cloaks or armors
perceiving the enviroment from multiple entities at once
space time ninjutsu
and so on and so on..

i bet you every single non-doujutsu sharingan and rinnegan abillity could be achieved as long as you have the knowledge.. now i'm also sure that for example the susano is indeed only achievable by those that have attained the mangekyo sharingan BUT that might just be because before you got that far, there is simply no way to get a connection with said susano(whatever that connection might be, it suggests to be somewhat spiritual of nature but you cant possibly predict that without utter luck as the narutoverse uses several religions for its "spirituallity").
i think it works like this :)
 

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The only logical answer to this is that after someone uses Susanoo, they can use it again without accessing the Mangekyou Sharingan.

The manga never stated explicitly and clearly , that Susanoo required the usage of the MS. Rather it stated that Susanoo is the third technique MS users obtain after Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.


Sorry, but your argumentation is incorrect. The first thing is that Susanoo is classifies as a Dōjutsu(eye technique). The second contention is that Sasuke became blind because of Susanoo. Susanoo quickened the sealing of Sasukes Mangekyo Sharingan, it overused it. That was mentioned by Obito and is a fact.

Even so, I liked your thesis.
 
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no matter how people try and justify it, it's still an asspull. the special chakra is needed from the brain to activate the eyes yes, but that chakra is not what makes the techs work. the point of the dojutsu is that it acts as an conduit for said techniques. if there are no eyes there shouldn't be anything to produce said jutsu. example when using susano it put a huge strain on sasuke's eyes and thus susano vanished from the strain it put on them. i don't care so much that itachi didn't have MS activated as he still had his eyes, but madara had no eyes so thus shouldn't use dojutsu.
 
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Susano'o is manifested chakra. You do not store your chakra in your eyes, silly. It's all over your body.
Maybe when an individual unlocks mangekyou some chakra channels inside the body are unlocked and thus the user can access them resulting in usage of susano'o, sort of upgrading his chakra.
 
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My guess is that while Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are both activated by the eyes, Susanoo itself is activated by the brain.
That would also explain why Madara was able to use Susanoo while having his Rinnegan active the whole time.
He switched back to his EMS to use Sharingan Genjutsu on A, wich sort of back ups the theory that Susanoo is not a MS tech but simply requires MS to unlock.
 
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