Madara & Juubito has put the uchiha clan in another league.

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sasuke will not steal senju powers and he will be stronger than madara and juubito.
 

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Nonsense an uchiha that acheives base sharingan regular skill pawns regular senju. Even without it uchiha have yin chakra of the sage which means they nqturally excel at genjutsu and chakra of the sage which means they naturally excel at ninjutsu and the potential to master many jutsu. Senju would excel in the stamina and thaijutsu department since they have body physicap energy and lifeforce. So logicaoly an uchiha beats a senju doesnt matter what manga says kishi contradicts logic sometimes.

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Logically yeah the Uchiha should be better they have so much shit over the Senju, I don't even see how the Senju's are superior but there is no denying this shit bro, Its a fact.
 

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Its instant. Wood clone is not.
Sharingans perception is too great to lose a track of original.
Even chakra is needed. Halving power in half or more is dumb.
Stop with lame ass counters that wont work unless hashi prepared in advanve and has info.

Madara stated that he was basically the only one that was able to distinguish a wood clone from the real one, that's also why they didn't notice that zetsu switched with kisame and that the shinobi alliance needed to rely on naruto to filter out the zetsu infiltrants.

the regular uchiha were fodder by the way.. itachi and tobi soloed the entire uchiha clan without anyone noticing that something was going on.
 
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Hashirama never used Kurama. Kurama was sealed in his wife, Mito. She would have used Kurama not Hashirama



Madara Uchiaha-Soloed by Hashirama
Izuna Uchiha- Soloed by Tobirama
Itachi and Sasuke- Would have lost to Kabuto had he been trying to kill them. He could have just undone edo Tensei and released Itachi, and then Sasuke would have had to contend with him alone and would have died doing so. (it's debatible I know, but most likely this would have been the outcome)

The Uchiha clan submitted to Hashiarama's will and joined Kanoha because they feared being wiped out. Madara is the only one who stood his ground in this. The last fight the Senju had ended in Madara's AND his clan's defeat.

And the top 5 Uchiha you just mentioned are the only Uchiha left in their clan. If you ask me they aren't as top tier as you would have everyone believe.



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Because Hashirama's cell didn't have anything to do with his awakening of the Rinnegan, or controlling the juubi, and his of course he didn't steal Hashirama's Sage Mode before fighting the 9 bijuu. No it was all Uchiha power, right?



True, but his points are still valid.

bold 1 : okay hashirama soloed madara doesnt mean senju > uchiha

bold 2 :tobirama wasnt having a proper 1 on 1 with izuna so you wont know who was actually stronger

bold 3/underline: this is stupid because they could have killed him easily go read the manga itachi reminded sasuke time and time again not to kill kabuto they could have killed him easily what you said is none sense

bold 4 :the uhciha clan submitted to hashirama because everyone was sick of fighting not bcause they feared bieng wiped out you seriously need to check your facts madara held his ground because he knew what will evantually happen

bold 5:these top uchihas are the only one left yes but give me any team that would finish them off together obito with kamui madara itachi sasuke those 4 alone can defeat 99.9% of all nv they are top tier weather you like it or not

bold 6 :i am not talking about madara overall uchiha's are more naturally talented and more skilled fighters than any other clan
 
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Um.. mokuton? and of course since they have Hashi's magic DNA they also gain some power-ups like rinnegan, healing abilities as in the case of Madara aside from mokuton of course. Plus some chakra boost. And as for Obito, he would would have been dead in the first place if not for the zetzu that was attached to his damaged half body, of course zetzu's are made from Hashis's DNA, and his rinnegan is from madara which was as I mentioned- obtained by getting senju DNA. And Him being the juubi jin is well, he achieved it by means of a rinnegan tech. So there.. no senju DNA, no power-ups for these two.
So by logic your saying an senju with uchiha dna can become a rinnegan user? Or with the eye? Not possible only uchiha have that potential. It is ther potential that allowed that.
 

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Right sure he hasn't
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Dude that's not Hashirama's doing. Naruto put the cloak around him. And this is Edo Hashirama. The original Hashi never used Kurama, and he is fighting rinnegan/mokuton Madara (powers achieved thanks to Senju DNA) So it's not like Hashi was cheating or something.
 

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Senju and Uchiha are both cool, they both have their bad-asses (Uchiha: Sasuke, Itachi/Senju: Hashirama, Tobirama etc).

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Yeah,Hashi sperm is in a league of its own.
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Madara stated that he was basically the only one that was able to distinguish a wood clone from the real one, that's also why they didn't notice that zetsu switched with kisame and that the shinobi alliance needed to rely on naruto to filter out the zetsu infiltrants.

the regular uchiha were fodder by the way.. itachi and tobi soloed the entire uchiha clan without anyone noticing that something was going on.
Even chakra works regardless. No reason for wood clone to be any special. Madara said that its due to doujutsu.
Hashi couldnt solo uchiha in 10 years.

@Avinash. Wood clones are clearly displayed to grow from hashirama normal clones just go puff(instant). No mokuton is instant its just rapid growth which sharingan can follow.
 

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Stupid , you are being . Read the manga better , you should .

See the real Hashirama with Kyuubi chakra , we never did .

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Carefully , you must read . Present , the Kyuubi chakra is not .

Again , Hashirama defeated Madara . Use the Kyuubi chakra , he did not .

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Closely , you must look . Disability , you seem to have . Present still , the chakra cloak is not .

Pewns Madara , Hashirama does .

LMAO XD

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bold 1 : okay hashirama soloed madara doesnt mean senju > hashirama

bold 2 :tobirama wasnt having a proper 1 on 1 with izuna so you wont know who was actually stronger

bold 3/underline: this is stupid because they could have killed him easily go read the manga itachi reminded sasuke time and time again not to kill kabuto they could have killed him easily what you said is none sense

bold 4 :the uhciha clan submitted to hashirama because everyone was sick of fighting not bcause they feared bieng wiped out you seriously need to check your facts madara held his ground because he knew what will evantually happen

bold 5:hese top uchihas are the only one left yes but give me any team that would finish them off together obito with kamui madara itachi those 3 alone can defeat 99.9% of all nv so dont blab shit they are top tier weather you like it or not

bold 6 :i am not talking about madara overall uchiha's are more naturally talented and more skilled fighters than any other clan

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2: Just because other Senju and Uchiha were on the field doesn't mean it wasn't a proper battle. The fact is in the those panel. Izuna and Tobirama were facing each other with no other ninja aiding them at the time. Tobirama FTG and sliced Izuan up thus ending his life.

3: Read my post again as I said this point was debatable. It's not stupid it is just plot. This fight could have gone either way if both parties intended to kill each other. In my opinon I would have given this fight to Dragon Sage Kabuto.

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5: They are only top teir because they are the main villians. There are plenty of Shinobi that can take them on. The Kage, Naruto, Kaubto, Minato, Kisame, Deidara, Hell even Mifune, Hashirama, Tobirama, any of the higher tailed Jinchiriki, Mix and match them anyway you want they can take out Uchiha just as well as the Senju.

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You sound like a fanboy to me getting upset because I don't praise the all enlightened Uchiha. Uchiha are distgusting. I dislike them with a passion. All they do is hide behind their godly eyes and borrowed Senju power. They have better quality chakra it does not make them the defacto ultimate clan.
 
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@Avinash. Wood clones are clearly displayed to grow from hashirama normal clones just go puff(instant). No mokuton is instant its just rapid growth which sharingan can follow.
At that movement there is no need to make clones in an instant and Hashirama is holding the barrier.
If he can't make clone in an instant,how else do u think he managed to fool Madara ,his all time rival who has complete intel on Hahsirama with a clone.?

U have already given a scan where it say's a large scale wood style jutsu is instant and u have no proof to say that KA is instant.
Any responce from u'll be neglected untill u give me a proof of KA being instant,that lameass jutsu can't even kill Ao a fodder compared to Hashirama and ur expecting it to take out Hashirama,Lmao.XD
 

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At that movement there is no need to make clones in an instant and Hashirama is holding the barrier.
U have already given a scan where it say's a large scale wood style jutsu is instant and u have no proof to say that KA is instant.
Any responce from u'll be neglected untill u give me a proof of KA being instant,that lameass jutsu can't even kill Ao a fodder compared to Hashirama and ur expecting it to take out Hashirama,Lmao.XD

Roflstomped by a Sharingan-less Danzo , Shisui was .

Featless , Shisui is . Stomped by Hashirama , he would be .
 

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Current Maddy solos the entire Senju clan combined, adding others is overkill
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madara sealing the bijuus with gedo mazo's powers and obito using the juubi jinchriki powers?

so whats up with the uchiha wank, confused, i am
 

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Current Maddy solos the entire Senju clan combined, adding others is overkill
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The entire senju clan is: Tsunade..
if you're referring to the etire senju clan out of history i say no. he would win mid-high dif to hashirama if he was alive.
 

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Current Maddy solos the entire Senju clan combined, adding others is overkill
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Come again when that dude can do it with his own powers.:bye:

Roflstomped by a Sharingan-less Danzo , Shisui was .

Featless , Shisui is . Stomped by Hashirama , he would be .
Yep,Manga pacts > Fanboy logics.
 

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2: Just because other Senju and Uchiha were on the field doesn't mean it wasn't a proper battle. The fact is in the those panel. Izuna and Tobirama were facing each other with no other ninja aiding them at the time. Tobirama FTG and sliced Izuan up thus ending his life.

3: Read my post again as I said this point was debatable. It's not stupid it is just plot. This fight could have gone either way if both parties intended to kill each other. In my opinon I would have given this fight to Dragon Sage Kabuto.

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5: They are only top teir because they are the main villians. There are plenty of Shinobi that can take them on. The Kage, Naruto, Kaubto, Kakashi (albiet he is using their eye), Hashirama, Tobirama, any of the higher tailed Jinchiriki, Mix and match them anyway you want they can take out Uchiha just as well as the Senju.

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You sound like a fanboy to me getting upset because I don't praise the all enlightened Uchiha. Uchiha are distgusting. I dislike them with a passion. All they do is hide behind their godly eyes and borrowed Senju power. They have better quality chakra it does not make them the defacto ultimate clan.

2- youll never know like i said tobirama could have easily sneaked up and sliced him youll never know what their circumstances were

3- exactly its your opinion some people had annopinion that the ramen guy was tobi didnt make it more relevant

5- bs they are top teir because of their abilities madara obito itachi and sasuke solo all the people on the battlefield

lol you call me a fanboy which is really funny that fact that you just called uchihas digusting proves your nothing but a butt hurt hater you talk about them hidiing behind their eyes when it is their eyes they get born with it what do you expect them to do fight blind ? aww wait madara already did that and still soloed btw the main character has been hiding behind kurama the entire series noone seemed annoyed by it the only one sounding like a fanboy here is you mate
 
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