Madara & Juubito has put the uchiha clan in another league.

[vipcool7]

In the end tnj and pnj solos both senju and uchihas... GG

 

[AlphaScythian]

Lawl,Amaterasu is not instant,Rikage who is slower than instant countered it.
The fact that crow had the time to get out of Naruto's ass proves that it is not intant.

You can clearly see the activation of both techniques,yet amaterasu didnt follow. Crow is irrelevant, jutsu speed is.

What are u trying to prove here?
Kage's said that he did it in an instant,if saying that KA is instant without evidence is not BS then saying FTW is instant with evidence is also not BS.

Yes its BS. You're grasping at tsunade's statement to make it true, knowing full well that it took 5 panels for FTW to emerge.

How is Madara saying that about Sasuke is relevant here?
Madara said that he is the only one to see through those clones and the fact that he is the only to do something like that proves that it is only possible with EMS,since Shisui is not an EMS user ,he is not going to do shit here in this case.

Making no discrimination between MS - EMS it opens the same possibility for MS. He clearly fell for wood clone makes one wonder if he needed original for comparison by chakra.

What is ur point here?

That you didnt counter my argument ofc.

Lol dude ninja's fights their opponents with clones when they had no intel ,it is a basic trick.

Yet they show their face b4 resorting to clones, which is enough for KA.

Ur refusing Hashirama using clones coz u can't counter it and expecting me to belive that Shisui uses KA at the beginning of the bettle when u don't know a shit about Shisui's fighting style,lawl seems legit.

We arent discussing fighting styles here but techniques. As far as fighting styles go even itachi will solo hashirama. Itachi goes for genjutsu right away hashi just stands there looking pretty. The very fact that hasirama needs to start with the clone and his scared ass hidden somewhere clearly proves the power of KA.

 

[EKSITE]

The manga disagree's with you , fodder .

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No , he wasn't . Hashirama was restrained in this panel:

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And he hasn't used ninjutsu since then .



And because Madara was resurrected by Obito .




You're pathetic, and you're incapable of reading this manga . You claim Hashirama used Kyuubi chakra against Madara in their Edo battle when that was never shown . Good luck living in your fantasy .

Shit , this argument is . Use the Kyuubi in VOTE battle , Madara did . Not Hashirama .

Seal away the Kyuubi , Hashirama did . Use the Kyuubi , Hashirama never did .

Hashirama never used the the 9 tails chakra lmao you just mad baby girl lol is that salt in the air ? lmao

 

[-Sky-]

Hashirama never used the the 9 tails chakra lmao you just mad baby girl lol is that salt in the air ? lmao

It's funny that you bring that up . That post was a counter to this:

I find all this funny talking about borrowed power why isn't anyone complaining about Hashirama taking the Kyuubi from Madara?

Want to know what's funny ? Madara needing the Kyuubi to even sniff Hashirama's level , and Hashirama still beat him .

Keep trying though , you obviously don't know what you're talking about .

 

[salamander uchiha]

The manga disagree's with you , fodder .

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No , he wasn't . Hashirama was restrained in this panel:

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And he hasn't used ninjutsu since then .



And because Madara was resurrected by Obito .




You're pathetic, and you're incapable of reading this manga . You claim Hashirama used Kyuubi chakra against Madara in their Edo battle when that was never shown . Good luck living in your fantasy .

no edo tenseis have limitless chakra do you want me to post the scan when madara breaks out of edo tensei and states as such. so explain how hashirama was exhaused(it just shows how powerful madara really is since he wasnt the least bit affected or didnt use mokuton on him, neither did he have sage mode). wood dragons eating infinite chakra still means its infinite(what the scan means is before you can mold it into ninjutsu itll get eaten not that one shinra tensei wouldnt have annihilated it anyway you see madara was playing).
hashirama had rods yet he still used wood dragons to restrain madara isnt that ninjutsu. he used the gates to try and hold down an unbothered madara isnt that ninjutsu. madara was revived and he had no eyes he performed a seal and restrained hashirama it was after that hashirama couldnt move or use ninjutsu. no rinnegan, blind madara, pawns hashirama edo with limitless chakra and sage mode amplification. i suggest you go and read what edo tensei is there is no exhaustion of chakra limitless chakra soldiers they are.
and i never once stated hashirama(who was struggling as if his life depended on it) used kyubi chakra to hold madara(who wanst bothered at all) at bay. i dont live in fantasy infinite nature gets pawned by blind madara. if the edos were revived near there full power according to tobirama then madara wouldnt have got much of a boost to fodderise an infinte sagemode enhanced hashirama while blind. it just shows madara is/was waiting to show his real strength(manga proves this too through his unbothered expression panel after panel wherever it is displayed)

 

[salamander uchiha]

It's funny that you bring that up . That post was a counter to this:



Want to know what's funny ? Madara needing the Kyuubi to even sniff Hashirama's level , and Hashirama still beat him .

Keep trying though , you obviously don't know what you're talking about .

Yet hashirama thought he had defeated him and killed him so who really won?

 

[EKSITE]

It's funny that you bring that up . That post was a counter to this:



Want to know what's funny ? Madara needing the Kyuubi to even sniff Hashirama's level , and Hashirama still beat him .

Keep trying though , you obviously don't know what you're talking about .

like i said why isn't no one complaining about that sniff you sniffing something alright hashirama had tail beast way before madara did lol
Hashirama talking about giving them away

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Obito statement being true to back it up

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Muu was at the meeting with hashirama at the time so the event of madara attacking the village came after

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Yeah complaining about borrowed power but never mention about ppl having it either come again chump.

 

[Aya San]

Now that you mention it, were the bijuus obedient to Hashi? Or did Hashi restrained them by force? They all seems to hate humans

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara and Obito = Traitors of the Clan. Don't insult the uchiha clan by saying the traitors represent the clan.

Madara and Obito = Senju +Uchiha... So in which way are they making the uchiha clans stronger? They are simply showing Senju dna makes you stronger.

like i said why isn't no one complaining about that sniff you sniffing something alright hashirama had tail beast way before madara did lol
Hashirama talking about giving them away

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Obito statement being true to back it up

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Muu was at the meeting with hashirama at the time so the event of madara attacking the village came after

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Yeah complaining about borrowed power but never mention about ppl having it either come again chump.

Hashirama never used the Bijuus in a battle. If you want to claim so, show us the scans.

Now that you mention it, were the bijuus obedient to Hashi? Or did Hashi restrained them by force? They all seems to hate humans

Seems like Hashirama lost Kurama's trust, or felt betrayed when he decided to seal it away. X_X.

He simple did say that he couldn't let Kurama roam free any longer.

On top of that 8-tails doesn't seem to hold any ill-will against Hashirama.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Now that you mention it, were the bijuus obedient to Hashi? Or did Hashi restrained them by force? They all seems to hate humans

well my guess is no since none have praised hashirama. well the senju needed something against the uchiha.

 

[EKSITE]

Madara and Obito = Traitors of the Clan. Don't insult the uchiha clan by saying the traitors represent the clan.

Madara and Obito = Senju +Uchiha... So in which way are they making the uchiha clans stronger? They are simply showing Senju dna makes you stronger.





Hashirama never used the Bijuus in a battle. If you want to claim so, show us the scans.


Seems like Hashirama lost Kurama's trust, or felt betrayed when he decided to seal it away. X_X.

He simple did say that he couldn't let Kurama roam free any longer.

On top of that 8-tails doesn't seem to hold any ill-will against Hashirama.

you know there was a high possible kushina even mentioned right here

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Hashirama had the power to control them why wouldn't he give it a shot and how would he know if he could control them in the first place if he never gave it a shot?

 

[Ovan]

Actually. Hashirama put them on a whole new level.

 

[Flawž]

Actually it's Senju > Uchiha.

Uchiha have the Senju's DNA completing their bodies much similar to Rikudo.

 

[cyberzone10]

This thread is filled with fanboys rofl.

 

[Mellanoma]

I don't acknowledge Madara and Obito as uchiha. They relied on Hashirama power which from what we seen in the past. The Uchiha are a proud group that don't rely on others for strength.

As far as I can see

True Uchihas are

Sasuke
Itachi
Nameless Clan members

 

[Scryed]

Uchiha and Senju are two halves of a single power that Hagoromo divided.

You could say that the moment they acquired Senju DNA, they became complete and were no longer simple Uchiha.

Obito and Madara became Uchiha AND Senju despite carrying the last name of Uchiha.


They were born as Uchihas. Now, they're Uchiha and Senju.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

neither are really superior to the other. hashirama doesnt represent his clan as a whole.
nor does madara. they are special exceptions.
of course if it comes down to uchiha vs senju, uchiha's hax (shisui, obito, madara, itachi) is too much to handle