Madara died with his beliefs (No TNJ)

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I think it's better for a villain to die with his/her ideals intact then to suddenly do a 180 in terms of their morals.

so rapists and murderers should never feel bad about their actions or think about their lives? yall need narujesus in your lives!!
 

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so rapists and murderers should never feel bad about their actions or think about their lives? yall need narujesus in your lives!!

I don't think rapists and murderers have any remorse most of the time.:|
 

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So people think if Madara wasnt dying at this point he would just join the village and be a nice guy? Come on people.
 

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Yeah, but still.. When was the last time a villain was actually killed?! Was it Kakuzu, or Deidara?

Kisame.

Obito got borrowed time, which he used for the alliance but he knew he was dying for a while. Madara was killed - BZ and Kaguya did the killing but he did die.

You cannot actually kill if villains are immortal or already dead ETS. Sealing them was as good as finishing them off.
 
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Kisame.

Obito got borrowed time, which he used for the alliance but he knew he was dying for a while.

Madara was killed - BZ and Kaguya did the killing but he did die.
The original Zetsu died as well.
 

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So people think if Madara wasnt dying at this point he would just join the village and be a nice guy? Come on people.

Yeah,after everything Madara did having live and be good wouldn't fly at all.
 

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No, that was all part of BZ's plan. Madara didn't even know the true purpose of IT. Madara was just another Uchiha puppet of Black Zetsu, like all of Indra's reincarnations.

What did BZ do with Sasuke? Stalk him?
 
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Kisame.

Obito got borrowed time, which he used for the alliance but he knew he was dying for a while. Madara was killed - BZ and Kaguya did the killing but he did die.

You cannot actually kill if villains are immortal or already dead ETS. Sealing them was as good as finishing them off.

Forgot about Kisame, that was a great death. By killing, I did mean the "good guys" finishing them, but your points are taken.
 

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Kisame.

Obito got borrowed time, which he used for the alliance but he knew he was dying for a while. Madara was killed - BZ and Kaguya did the killing but he did die.

You cannot actually kill if villains are immortal or already dead ETS. Sealing them was as good as finishing them off.

You just double posted - thats against the rules so ban yourself.
 

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Madara betrayed the village and attack Hashirama based on what he believed was on the Tablet. BZ deceived him about the Tablet, the Rinnegan, the Juubi, the Shinju, The Juubi's Jin, And IT.

Everything Madara did was according to Black Zetsu's plan. How do you not call that controlling?

Because he wasn't taking orders from someone else. All he did was induce the idea of gaining power into Madara and Madara wanted that power so he did whatever means it took for him to get it.

He had his own goals which he set himself. He was just inspired by something he read.


It was only by chance that Madara obtained the MS and EMS that enabled him to read the tablet. If it weren't for that, Black Zetsu's plan would have failed miserably.
 

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Hardly. It was Madara's idea to bite Hashirama's flesh and 'die' but then bring himself back with Izanagi. None of that was BZ. BZ gave him a direction and Madara took it himself. Its not like Madara didnt believe in IT himself.

Not actually his beliefs but it was his fate Indra's ideals where passed on to him and being that Black Zetsu "created" the story of the shinobi it's safe to say black zetsu is responsible for chakra being passed on some how.
 

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Bosses go out like bosses
 

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The original Zetsu died as well.

Yeah. I was just thinking of editing and adding him too.

Forgot about Kisame, that was a great death. By killing, I did mean the "good guys" finishing them, but your points are taken.

Obito's defeat was by the hand of Konoha 11. His count down to death started from there. It was just that he still had sage's chakra and gedo mezo( which was already being eyed by Madara and he knew it). If he hadn't switched side even then he would have died and it would have been even more meaningless. For Obito wanted to live his own dream via Moon eye plan, not Madara's.

Not ending every villain just by an awesome last punch should not be counted as something bad. -_^

Not actually his beliefs but it was his fate Indra's ideals where passed on to him and being that Black Zetsu "created" the story of the shinobi it's safe to say black zetsu is responsible for chakra being passed on some how.

Indra had ideals that needed fighting to save them or did BZ just use his disappointment and feeling of being slighted for his own purpose?


BZ is the kind of villain he is too weak to have even his own body to stand on his own two feet. But he was extremely cunning and exploiting everyone else and used their power for his own purpose. Even his mom was not an exception. For all the proclaimed love for the mom, he hid again when she was being sealed.


You just double posted - thats against the rules so ban yourself.

1)You don't get infractions if you delete your own double posts. :ira:

2)You don't get banned for a single double post either. If you ever got banned it would be because of a number of previous points adding up automatically. :lawliet:

3) Usually the guys who get infractions for double posting are the ones who are doing it frequently and expecting someone else to wipe their noses for them constantly ... er I mean merge their posts for them. Zzz

4) Most importantly - You just spammed the thread with off topic post for a message which should have been posted on my profile not in this thread or you could have just hit report button. So you are the one in danger of a warning/infraction here. Lovely irony. :bouncy:
 
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Yes i loved the way he went away, but theres a chance hes still alive nxt chapter u never know, mb he have more to say or something lel
 

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I liked the way Madara died...Even though I hated him,he is the first villain in a long time who didn't just become good because of Naruto's speech...He died believing in his dream even though it did not came true.
 

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The only villains who never submitted to TNJ: Madara, Kaguya, Black Zetsu, Kakuzu, Hidan and Deidara.​
 
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