Madara died with his beliefs (No TNJ)

[SayWhat21]

but here he said he will were gonna have to wait for viz

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[Gagster]

What are you talking about? Black Zetsu never controlled Madara. All he did was rewrite the tablet saying Infinite Tsukuyomi was the way.


Infinite Tsukuyomi would have still completed Madara's dream. The only difference is that IT was actually meant for Kaguya, not Madara. If Black Zetsu never betrayed Madara, he would have achieved his goal.

Madara betrayed the village and attack Hashirama based on what he believed was on the Tablet. BZ deceived him about the Tablet, the Rinnegan, the Juubi, the Shinju, The Juubi's Jin, And IT.

Everything Madara did was according to Black Zetsu's plan. How do you not call that controlling?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Good on him .

 

[RedRobin]

He didnt apologize for anything he just questioned why he lost like all villains would. Kinda like went over how he went wrong.

 

[Gagster]

He didnt apologize for anything he just questioned why he lost like all puppets would. Kinda like went over how he went wrong.

Fixed .

 

[HiddenSound]

He didnt apologize for anything he just questioned why he lost like all villains would.

It was obvious he rethought his actions :| But you keep thinking what you think, don't let common sense stop you.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I like that Madara died with out being converted to the cult of TNJ.

 

[Troyg39]

What are you talking about? Black Zetsu never controlled Madara. All he did was rewrite the tablet saying Infinite Tsukuyomi was the way.


Infinite Tsukuyomi would have still completed Madara's dream. The only difference is that IT was actually meant for Kaguya, not Madara. If Black Zetsu never betrayed Madara, he would have achieved his goal.

Stop.
Breathe.
Look at the bold.
Now finish the following sentence.

Madara's entire Infinite Tsukuyomi plan and all his ambitions all came about after reading the _______ manipulated by black zetsu

 

[SayWhat21]

I like that Madara died with out being converted to the cult of TNJ.

actually he did regretted it in some way but were gonna have to wait for viz to see

 

[RedRobin]

It was obvious he rethought his actions :| But you keep thinking what you think, don't let common sense stop you.

Alright I will I guess.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

actually he did regretted it in some way but were gonna have to wait for viz to see

But he wasn't TNJ'ed,that's the important part.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Stop.
Breathe.
Look at the bold.
Now finish the following sentence.

Madara's entire Infinite Tsukuyomi plan and all his ambitions all came about after reading the _______ manipulated by black zetsu

This guys right.
It's like if I tell you the wrong way to solve a math problem, but you believed in the answer and it got you nowhere.

 

[Angelic.]

he thought about a different way at the end but it still wasnt for him. tnj only works on those who originqlly had a different feeling or goal. madara always said he thought no one could understand each other.... actually nvm he wanted the villiage and for people to understand..
kinda pathetic

 

[HiddenSound]

But he wasn't TNJ'ed,that's the important part.

So it's better to be f*cked up and realize you've been wrong than to be talked to and realize you're wrong?
I disagree with some people in this thread...

 

[Troyg39]

But he wasn't TNJ'ed,that's the important part.

Bingo. We have a thread ending comment here.

Madara clearly lost the die hard (no pun intended) belief in his actions, but he lost that simply after being defeated.

All the other villains got talked into changing their ways, which lead them to try and do things to change/correct their mistakes.

Madara? "I admit I may have made some mistakes, but eh **** it I'm dying" ........... in a nutshell

Don't know which is better honestly. But they are different

 

[Demonic.]

he thought about a different way at the end but it still wasnt for him. tnj only works on those who originqlly had a different feeling or goal. madara always said he thought no one could understand each other.... actually nvm he wanted the villiage and for people to understand..
kinda pathetic

I don't even understand what the hell you just said XD

 

[Barbarossa]

Poor Madara. I feel so bad for him :/

 

[Troyg39]

he thought about a different way at the end but it still wasnt for him. tnj only works on those who originqlly had a different feeling or goal. madara always said he thought no one could understand each other.... actually nvm he wanted the villiage and for people to understand..
kinda pathetic

Lol did you just realize you were wrong and correct yourself all in the same sentence? Dude you're awesome man

 

[Angelic.]

Lol did you just realize you were wrong and correct yourself all in the same sentence? Dude you're awesome man

lol. at least i didnt delete it all. im forgot hashis flashback for a minute. and im a woman!

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

So it's better to be f*cked up and realize you've been wrong than to be talked to and realize you're wrong?
I disagree with some people in this thread...

I think it's better for a villain to die with his/her ideals intact then to suddenly do a 180 in terms of their morals.