Madara Can use Renningan better the Nagato

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aw dude take you own advice. that moment he was pulled out of susanoo later and it vanish , the photo i have is when the kages arrive. sheesh
Okay you clearly arent getting the point here. We have Madara, who is an Uchiha, that has obtained the EMS during his lifetime. Then before his death he awakens Rinnegan. Now if you compare the two, Nagato and Madara, what differences do you notice? Oh yes, Madara is an Uchiha and has Rinnegan while Nagato has access to the Rinnegan only. You cannot automatically assume that his Rinnegan has all the EMS techs in it because he already had access to all of those powers even before he awakened them.

Now if it were someone else aside from the Uchiha who awakened Rinnegan, and had access to Susanoo, Amaterasu etc. then you could assume that. But, you jump to the conclusion that his Rinnegan/Sharingan techs are shared. He can use both techniques from both eyes, but thats because hes a combination of both. So of course he has access to that power. But your thread is about him being a better Rinnegan user than Nagato and not who is stronger.

Taking that completely aside, it still doesnt prove that hes a better Rinnegan user than Nagato. Saying that he can still use Susanoo, Amaterasu and Tsukoyomi with his EMS doesnt matter because those arent Rinnegan Techniques. Since Madara is now a combination of both Doujutsu tiers, of course he would have that kind of power. But strip him of his Sharingan advantages, and leave him with Rinnegan his feats dont come close to trumping Nagato. Stronger than Nagato? Most likely. Better Rinnegan user than Nagato? Definately not.
 
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Okay you clearly arent getting the point here. We have Madara, who is an Uchiha, that has obtained the EMS during his lifetime. Then before his death he awakens Rinnegan. Now if you compare the two, Nagato and Madara, what differences do you notice? Oh yes, Madara is an Uchiha and has Rinnegan while Nagato has access to the Rinnegan only. You cannot automatically assume that his Rinnegan has all the EMS techs in it because he already had access to all of those powers even before he awakened them.

Now if it were someone else aside from the Uchiha who awakened Rinnegan, and had access to Susanoo, Amaterasu etc. then you could assume that. But, you jump to the conclusion that his Rinnegan/Sharingan techs are shared. He can use both techniques from both eyes, but thats because hes a combination of both. So of course he has access to that power. But your thread is about him being a better Rinnegan user than Nagato and not who is stronger.

Taking that completely aside, it still doesnt prove that hes a better Rinnegan user than Nagato. Saying that he can still use Susanoo, Amaterasu and Tsukoyomi with his EMS doesnt matter because those arent Rinnegan Techniques. Since Madara is now a combination of both Doujutsu tiers, of course he would have that kind of power. But strip him of his Sharingan advantages, and leave him with Rinnegan his feats dont come close to trumping Nagato. Stronger than Nagato? Most likely. Better Rinnegan user than Nagato? Definately not.
Very nice details. :D Plus +Rep.
 

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His renningan has all ems abilities in it!!!!!!!! He doesn't have to switch. And when they show this shit in the anime, i'm going to brand all you haters fools!!
Its not Madara's Rinnegan that enables him to use his EMS abilities. Its Madara himself that can use it, because he is a combination of both ocular powers from the SO6P. Of course he doesnt have to switch because even if he switches to Rinnegan, it doesnt change his Uchiha blood. So of course he still has access to his EMS powers with Rinnegan activated because changing eyes wouldnt change his affinity with the Uchiha. If his Rinnegan held all of the power in him, then Nagato would be able to use EMS techs too with his level of expertise. But that isnt the case because Nagato is not Uchiha and does not have access to the EMS techniques that Madara can still use with Rinnegan activated.

And before you try to brand me a hater, take a look at my avatar picture and think twice before you try.
 

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Its not Madara's Rinnegan that enables him to use his EMS abilities. Its Madara himself that can use it, because he is a combination of both ocular powers from the SO6P. Of course he doesnt have to switch because even if he switches to Rinnegan, it doesnt change his Uchiha blood. So of course he still has access to his EMS powers with Rinnegan activated because changing eyes wouldnt change his affinity with the Uchiha. If his Rinnegan held all of the power in him, then Nagato would be able to use EMS techs too with his level of expertise. But that isnt the case because Nagato is not Uchiha and does not have access to the EMS techniques that Madara can still use with Rinnegan activated.

And before you try to brand me a hater, take a look at my avatar picture and think twice before you try.
like how much work you have done want some rep ?
 

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Doesnt matter to me. +rep or not, its all in the interest of helping shed light on what I believe. However, I would enjoy this thread more if the originator didnt post things in such an insulting manner.
me 2 and i gave you rep btw you know i proved that the treadmaker lied about 3 times already ?? :izuna: lol
 
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Breath dude lol... first.. madara can't handle rinnegan better than nagato.. nagato had like 30y time to learn how to use it while madara was rotting in grave ( nuff said) rinnegan aint final form or sharingan.. EMS is final form of sharingan.. rinnegan eye is whole other level than any of sharingan.. madara is like only person ever ( after so6p ) who can switch from rinnegan to ems sharingan.. maybe cuz hes edo.. we don't know.. nagato aint useless without rinnegan.. but not strong uchiha madara which is 1 of the most powerful characters in the series even without the eyes lol.. u cant compare them without eyes.. but rinnegan nagato vs ems madara is most like nagato beats him.. + maybe you "****" dont realise.. madara CANT use infinite izanagi -.- so stop fan wanking right here and go back to sleep.. TY! :flaw::D:D:D:D
I think you are stupid.

Rinnegan so far has been shown to be accessed from a sharingan.
Madara did it. He 'unlocked these eyes' shortly after his death.
We do not know, if , he can use the rinnegan better than nagato because of lack of proof.

Btw. Madara > Nagato

Easily...so....easily...even without rinnegan....soooooo easily.
This is actually the first time..im just itching to tell someone to..just shut the..f..up..

Infinite Izanagi, is also not true..
It closes any sharingan for good.
 

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I think you are stupid.

Rinnegan so far has been shown to be accessed from a sharingan.
Madara did it. He 'unlocked these eyes' shortly after his death.
We do not know, if , he can use the rinnegan better than nagato because of lack of proof.

Btw. Madara > Nagato

Easily...so....easily...even without rinnegan....soooooo easily.
This is actually the first time..im just itching to tell someone to..just shut the..f..up..

Infinite Izanagi, is also not true..
It closes any sharingan for good.
I said the same thing as well about Izunagi but....................well fanboys will be fanboys.
 

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Okay, Ive decided to make a thread about this and try to end the debate. Please come read my thread and take a look if you are interested:


 

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Madara is an Uchiha that acquired Senju blood and managed to awaken the Rinnegan before his death so no major experience with using it.
Nagato is an Uzumaki with a large amount of chakra that had the Rinnegan transplanted into him. He had 30+ years of experience with using it.

I personally believe Nagato is more skilled in using the Rinnegan. Reason for that being ofcourse due to his experience.

The Uchiha were known for their powerful chakra while Senju were known for their amount of chakra. Uzumaki were somehow related to Senju so I believe they also had some of their traits.

Since Nagato had the Rinnegan transplanted to him, it's safe to assume that using the Rinnegan uses up more chakra than it normally would but i think that his quantity of chakra makes up for that.

Madara awakened the Rinnegan shortly before his death so he's pretty much less experienced than Nagato. I think if Madara uses the Rinnegan's techniques, they would be more powerful than Nagato's since the Uchiha's powerful chakra and Senju's amount of chakra would be elevating the technique to a certain extent while Nagato's amount of chakra would be the only thing in play if he uses them. That doesn't mean that Madara is better at using it, it just means he has other factors that help the Technique grow in power.

If Nagato were given the same factors, his techniques would surpass Madaras since Uchiha's powerful chakra would also apply to his techniques.
 

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5 kages can't beat Madara and you expect Gaylord and retard to do it!!!!!!
calm down man... what's with all this foul language and hating on Nagato? and why heck are you calling everyone dicks and clowns? calm your ass down. If anything you're the one being a **** and a retard...

Anyway, on topic. Until I see Madara use more Rinnegan techniques I'm going to stick with Nagato being the better Rinnegan user. And also I think it was stated that Nagato was a powerful shinobi and had many techniques other than the Rinnegan
 

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im with suga playa. madara is the shit. and nagato is a big wet *****, he said it himself. as far as infinite izangi goes, from what i understand you have to have uchiha and senju blood. madara did use wood release, so there is a clue, he looked down his shirt to check up on sumthin, so im thinking he has some kind of weird shit going on down there like danzo did, maybe no as freakish but who knows. not too mention muu called him out on gaining some of hashiramas power after their last battle. and oh yeah, nagatos a big wet ***** fer sure
 
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