[Theory] Madara awaken Rinnegan?

[Floydical]

madara already had senju DNA in his body before he took nagato's rinnegan, we know this because he used izanagi when he was fighting konan for it. so i think he lost to first hokage on purpose so he could gather senju DNA or maybe he died so he could get rinnegan, then give it to nagato, and get a new pair of uchiha eyes. i think this is possible because if you remeber when he gave sasuke itachis eyes, he had a massive wall with a uchiha crest on it with lots of containers so its possible he could have just transplanted a new pair of eyes into himself.

Possible ??
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Yes, that makes perfect sense based on Ariow's theory. Perhaps he knew from the Uchiha tablet that he needed to die in order to awaken Rinnegan from his EMS and therefore lost the battle to the 1st, mostly on purpose. After being revived, perhaps he took a sample of the 1st's blood for DNA extraction. Of course, he likely later extracted his Rinnegans, stored them to be used later, and replaced them with normal sharingans. This however, is where a big question arises.

If Madara had indeed upgraded his EMS to Rinnegan by dieing and later replaced them with normal sharingans, then why does he still have his space-time jutsu? Clearly he would not have been able to swap his recently upgraded EMS with MS because he had no more at his disposal. We know that Itachi was the third to awaken them, far after Madara's prime, so Madara could only have replaced them with regular sharingan. But here is where a mini theory of mine comes in:

Perhaps once you obtain EMS, those powers, or at least some of them, will stay with you even after the eyes have been extracted. Of course, you may loose other abilities but perhaps once you replace them, some of the powers are still available to you. Perhaps this is why Madara can only use space time-jutsu and has been shown using nothing else.


I mean we know Madara's right Sharingan is transplanted because he can't seem to turn it off, so maybe it is limited to just that space-time jutsu that is only unique to him. Seem plausible?

 

[b.t.o]

I believe after youve awakened the EMS you must then die which is what happened to Madara when he was killed in the battle with the first hokage the Rinnegan was awakened and Madara was brought back to life.

madara never died he said after loosing to the 1st hakoage he left the village and secretly became the 4th mizukage of the mist which he spent his whole life in the mist village.

 

[Akatsuki leader]

I believe after youve awakened the EMS you must then die which is what happened to Madara when he was killed in the battle with the first hokage the Rinnegan was awakened and Madara was brought back to life.

madara never died he said after loosing to the 1st hakoage he left the village and secretly became the 4th mizukage of the mist which he spent his whole life in the mist village.

1st Hakoage? what is that?

 

[Hasisas]

he probably obtain it after all fights

 

[SKTupac]

Actually this is a pretty good theory. That explains why we didn't see any of his EMS yet and why he says he isn't on full strength. But after implantated the Rinnegan he was ready to fight in the war.

Why did he gave Nagato the rinnegan, to develop the rinnegan. Madara couldn't fight for his plan, so Nagato became the leader of the Akatsuki, became an international threath group and fought multiple enemies. He was the one who pushed the rinnegan to the limit.

Now madara got the rinnegan ( i think with the powers that Nagato and himself learned in the past). But he still got the normal Sharingan ? That means that Rinnegan can't do what the sharingan can ? So there are some leaks in it.

I think he's preparing to get Sasuke his EMS and then he got the ultimate eyes in a body of 2 descendes of the SO6P, senju and uchiha.

 

[Madara258]

To tell you the story , Madara went to Pein's hideout which is in the tree . Pein was with konan. Madara wanted Pein aka Nagato's eye. Konan refused to give Nagato's eye to madara. Madara got mad and they both fight. Instead, Madara won the battle. He took nagato's body and took out his rinnegan and planted it on his left eye or right i think. SO this is ur story Read manga pl0x

 

[Xzibit]

The answer is simple. Tobi got a Uchiha and a Uzumaki to have a baby or he is Nagato's actual father. In order to be a path you have to have Uchiha and Senju (Uzumaki) blood. Since Tobi was born with only Uchiha he only posses the sharingan.

He had to grow the rinnegan within a person and wait till he developed it. Tobi never had the Rinnegan because if he did why would he give it away?

Wow wait! IS THE MIX BETWEEN UCHIHA AND SENJU = UZUMAKI??

The sage of the six paths were both right?? and his two sons were uchiha and Senju. Something is missing in this...? hmm


Is all uzumakis like the SO6P? you just said that Senju+ Uchiha = Uzumaki O.O

 

[Xzibit]

I don't think that you have to DIE to get the Rinnegan. It seens to Original. Maybe just an near death experience. Where your life hangs in a thread.

Also Madara only want sasuke to get EMS, so that Madara (aka Mandara - for some people)
can take Sasuke's EMS.

We haven't seen Madara's EMS yet, and i think something happened to his eyes. I think they are gone.

Also if eyes that are transplanted can't be shut off (like Kakashi's sharingan and maybe MADARA's) the NAGATO's RINNEGAN were also transplanted right??

We haven't seen him without the rinnegan.

 

[Heero Yuy]

I think the sage preserved his eyes in a jar or something and madara had found the eyes and gave them to nagato

 

[blackbird31468]

i'm pretty sure many uchiha had the ems back when they were fighting the senju all the time, so if you were right then wouldn't that mean that every uchiha that died would have that power?

 

[Xzibit]

i'm pretty sure many uchiha had the ems back when they were fighting the senju all the time, so if you were right then wouldn't that mean that every uchiha that died would have that power?

Exactly. There's something wrong with the theory. It is not true all the way. But maybe parts of it.

Madara --> :flaw: <-- Naruto ________________ <-- Zetsu

 

[rasenchidori]

I think he developed the renningan after the fight with the first hokage, not due to dying but collecting his DNA, and we've yet to discover all the abilities of ems, but ur theory sounds plausible we would just need to hear what would be the next step to take after getting ems to obtain the renningan, and it seems to get worse down the line kill it friend, kill ur brother, next maybe like u said kill ur self, but then y fight and have some one kill u when he could of just feel on his own sword instead of the first hokage kicking his ass lol.

So people would think he is dead and he could work in the shadows and proceed with his plan lol.

 

[GiorgosTrelamenosSenpai]

Guys, uchiha madara got the rinnegan, after nagato's death. He simply found pain's body, and implanted the rinnegan into his left eye.

The "sharinnegan", does not exist! The eye foto that xZibit uploaded, is the eye of the ten - tails demon, that will be "projected" onto the moon (if madara got kyubi, and hachibi of course), in order tou capture all alive beings into his genjutsu.!
Thank you for reading!

 

[Ketszu]

I'm liking this theory but as others say it does has flaws. I'm skeptical abouth the death thin to achieve the rinnegan but I sounds reasonable.

But far as the rinnegan I think if your a sage your an jinchurriki your eyes somehow fuze, thus why naruto eyes did. Sage mode and 9 tails eyes. I think that can relate to each other and why naruto and so6p. Myabe that foreshadow something if anyone can help with evidence of that. If it sounds reasonable.

Also I think the body and the eyes of the so6p counters each other thus why so6p gave his sons it. Tablets are directions to fuze it back together incase 10 tails is brought back...idk just throwing things out there to spark more talk.

Just find this interesting to read. Well these are my inputs. I'm not professional thinker lmao.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Wow wait! IS THE MIX BETWEEN UCHIHA AND SENJU = UZUMAKI??

The sage of the six paths were both right?? and his two sons were uchiha and Senju. Something is missing in this...? hmm


Is all uzumakis like the SO6P? you just said that Senju+ Uchiha = Uzumaki O.O

That isn't what he is saying, he meant that Uzumaki DNA can be compared to Senju DNA in his little equation of Uchiha + Senju (or Uzumaki) = Rinnegan

 

[ganjababy]

This is assuming that Tobi is indeed Madara and he did infact give Nagato his Rinnegan I have no idea how or when.
So how did Madara get ahold of the Rinnegan when the only one ever known to posses it was the SO6P? They say that the eldest son of the SO6P got the eyes of his father then his decendants became the Uchiha so I am assuming they mean the rinnegan just an incomplete version of it.
If you think about it the sharingan is always leveling up in some strange way.The inital mongekyo sharingan is awakened when you kill someone very close to you. Then you must take someone elses mongekyo and implant it to awaken the eternal mongekyo.
I believe after youve awakened the EMS you must then die which is what happened to Madara when he was killed in the battle with the first hokage the Rinnegan was awakened and Madara was brought back to life it does have this abillity as nagato demonstrated bringing all the villagers who died back to life.
I cant see any other way Madara could still be alive if not for this method, truly Madara died the fist Hokage would have made sure of it.

hmm idk! interesting theory! but i think its too far fetched, i still wanna see how hashirama was able to beat madara cause i dont see how his wood jutsu would have any effect against madara's abilities! and that all he seems to be known for!!

 

[GiorgosTrelamenosSenpai]

Boys, if you read manga with attention, madara took nagato's eyes, after he faced konan........ read properly!

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think he developed the renningan after the fight with the first hokage, not due to dying but collecting his DNA, and we've yet to discover all the abilities of ems, but ur theory sounds plausible we would just need to hear what would be the next step to take after getting ems to obtain the renningan, and it seems to get worse down the line kill it friend, kill ur brother, next maybe like u said kill ur self, but then y fight and have some one kill u when he could of just feel on his own sword instead of the first hokage kicking his ass lol.[/QUO

Maybe suicide doesn't count like in dbz how a sayan can get stronger from his injuries unless they are self inflicted after all kishi said dbz was an inspiration for naruto

 

[Punk Hazard]

Boys, if you read manga with attention, madara took nagato's eyes, after he faced konan........ read properly!

This is true but remember madara gave nagato those eyes which means madara possessed them once before but the question is y would madara give nagato rinnegan just to rip out his skull again

 

[SasukeMangekyo5]

*My own idea*
Well you see the Uchiha clan ancestor/Sage's older son was said to have sages eyes (and SOP6 eyes were Rinnegan)then the eye form changed to Sharingan, so that means that there's a link between Sharingan and Rinnegan, it may be a secret, which Madara found out.

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Naka Shrine

And I think he found that secret out at the Naka Shrine, and there are tablets that contains the clans secret, and SOP6 history and Ten-Tailed beast history, if you had a normal Sharingan you could read a short part of it, if you had Mangekyo Sharingan you could read more BUT IF you had Rinnegan you could've read it all, so Madara with Mangekyo Sharingan may have read the information or the "secret connection" between Sharingan and Rinnegan and it also explain the history that he knows about SOP6 and the Ten-Tailed beast.