[Theory] Madara awaken Rinnegan?

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The answer is simple. Tobi got a Uchiha and a Uzumaki to have a baby or he is Nagato's actual father. In order to be a path you have to have Uchiha and Senju (Uzumaki) blood. Since Tobi was born with only Uchiha he only posses the sharingan.

He had to grow the rinnegan within a person and wait till he developed it. Tobi never had the Rinnegan because if he did why would he give it away?
 

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The answer is simple. Tobi got a Uchiha and a Uzumaki to have a baby or he is Nagato's actual father. In order to be a path you have to have Uchiha and Senju (Uzumaki) blood. Since Tobi was born with only Uchiha he only posses the sharingan.

He had to grow the rinnegan within a person and wait till he developed it. Tobi never had the Rinnegan because if he did why would he give it away?

hmmmmm, I think you may be onto something....IF Madara was able to implant his dna into a senju or have an Uchiha and Senju offspring that could explain the rinnegan needing to be "GROWN" in a person containing both sets of dna versus being able to "ACHIEVE" it like the EMS
 

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The answer is simple. Tobi got a Uchiha and a Uzumaki to have a baby or he is Nagato's actual father. In order to be a path you have to have Uchiha and Senju (Uzumaki) blood. Since Tobi was born with only Uchiha he only posses the sharingan.

He had to grow the rinnegan within a person and wait till he developed it. Tobi never had the Rinnegan because if he did why would he give it away?

Uchiha and Senju are two different paths, having both means you contain 2 of the 6 paths. He might have given the Rinnegan away so that he could have someone else sinc with Gedo Mazo. And while he had that person (ie Pain) do his work for him, he could keep sharingan for himself and possibly get back his space-time jutsu through the replacement sharingan.

In regard to "growing" the Rinnegan by implanting sharingan into a senju, that is an old theory and I believed that for a long time. My only question now is must the sharingan be in a senju body to develop rinnegan? We don't know that for certain. Ariow made me realize that the Uchiha should have everything they need to develop the rinnegan themselves because they have the Sage's eyes. They shouldn't need the sage's body to form the rinnegan, or at least we haven't been told for certain that it is needed to form the Rinnegan. We can only go off of interpretation, and we interpreted from the fact that Nagato was Uzumaki/Senju that Rinnegan can only form in a senju body.

But Ariow's theory says that you may not need Senju DNA to awaken Rinnegan. Though I suppose it does make more sense if he grew the rinnegan in Nagato for the reason of keeping some of his sharingan powers intact. If Madara did indeed spawn rinnegan from his EMS, he would not have kept his space-time techniques. I still really like the "dieing with EMS results in awakening Rinnegan and being revived" theory, but it would make more sense if the rinnegan development happened in another person orchastrated by him, so that he could keep his Sharingan powers.
 
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actually think about it:
we all know the most powerful doujutsu is the sharinnegan


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it has to be.

Sharingan + rinnegan = Sharin(ne)gan

They are connected. Maybe SO6P was the only to unlock the final sharingan. The rinnegan.

PLzz say if this is crap. I'm not so god with evidence and research

Okay. Here is my thing about the "Sharinnegan".

Sage kick Juubi's ass.

Sage get *** from many hot women due to this.

Sage impregnates a lady but Juubi characteristics get into the sperm.

No seriously, I think that actually happened.
 

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you all have the right ideas,but now madara has the eteranial mangekyou sharingan and now the rinnegan,so naruto in the series,he is so screwed :D
 

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You guys forget that Kishimoto never said that. Why does everyone seem to believe Madara is incapable of lying. And if he wasn't lying he didn't mean that literally.

Nagato has always had the rinnegan. He awakened his rinnegan when his parents were killed by some ninja from the war. IF and only if Madara was not lying then he must've meant that he helped develop Nagato's Rinnegan to it's full potential AKA six forms.

As far as we know the six forms is unnatural and machinery +chakra rods were used to make it possible. The So6P as far as we know wielded these powers in one form, the same way Nagato did BEFORE Madara.

Plus the Sharingan is the Yin part of the So6P. The Yin Release techniques, based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness. Izanagi is both the embodiment of Yin and the Sharingan.

While the body of the Senju is the Yang part of the Rinnegan. The Yang Release techniques, based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form. Naruto's Nine Tails Chakra mode is an example of the embodiment of this. The actual embodiment is most likely the First Hokages Wood Element.

So that means that the Sharingan is a watered down version of the Rinnegan and the Senju's body is a watered down version of the So6P body.

So IMO Madara did not give Nagato the Rinnegan, but he did make it possible for him to have six forms.
 

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Just a question but what in the world is the renningan and who is Mandara?
 
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You guys forget that Kishimoto never said that. Why does everyone seem to believe Madara is incapable of lying. And if he wasn't lying he didn't mean that literally.

Nagato has always had the rinnegan. He awakened his rinnegan when his parents were killed by some ninja from the war. IF and only if Madara was not lying then he must've meant that he helped develop Nagato's Rinnegan to it's full potential AKA six forms.

As far as we know the six forms is unnatural and machinery +chakra rods were used to make it possible. The So6P as far as we know wielded these powers in one form, the same way Nagato did BEFORE Madara.

Plus the Sharingan is the Yin part of the So6P. The Yin Release techniques, based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness. Izanagi is both the embodiment of Yin and the Sharingan.

While the body of the Senju is the Yang part of the Rinnegan. The Yang Release techniques, based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form. Naruto's Nine Tails Chakra mode is an example of the embodiment of this. The actual embodiment is most likely the First Hokages Wood Element.

So that means that the Sharingan is a watered down version of the Rinnegan and the Senju's body is a watered down version of the So6P body.

So IMO Madara did not give Nagato the Rinnegan, but he did make it possible for him to have six forms.

You mean that he created that wheelchair for him ?
 

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we almost know nothing about the rinnegan and sharingan but i think they r tow
different dojutsu because we have seen jubi with the sharingan and then we have seen it again with the rinnegan so if we could say that jubi's original eyes r sharingan then how did the SO6P could activate it and how did the sharingan became part of his DNA and what is the relationship between the rinnegan and the sharingan (example : naruto's eyes became like kyuubi's but his children will have normal eyes not kyuubi's eyes)

Rinnegan:

Main Abilities:

Can control Life and Death.

This would make sence of this theory that you must "die." I guess you must have Senju and Uchiha blood, and you will "survive death." It would also make sense that he "gave" Nagato the Rinnegan if he was still alive at the time, however presumed dead. How else would he have so easily been able to take over the Akatsuki from the inside? It would make sense that he gave it to him by manipulating him with the Sharingan, and manipulated him at the same time with the Rinnegan. Rinne+Sharing=Senju+Uchiha, allowing him to achieve it. It would also make sense of those random blackouts that he tended to have at times, allowing him to survive should he have needed help. It was because Madara needed him. He needed someone to help him achieve the Rinnegan, should he lose his. Please keep in mind that the Uzumaki were very close to the Senju, another reason this may have worked. Please post any problems or opinions!! :)
 

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I think that nagatowas the spawn of an uchiha and an uzumaki. A nd i also think that pain has genjutsu, it was the one that could read minds by grabbing someones head, then he rips out their soul.
 

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donot be an ass:mad:

:) I'll try not to be. It is just a pet peeve of mine when people can't spell correctly. I understand shortening words like "plz" or something but I don't get the unnecessary addition of letters when plainly they see every time they read the manga that it is not spelled Mandara.
 

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I like this theory. I am really curious to know what exactly is up with Madara/Tobi.
 

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I believe that the eye on the Juubi that we see is the dubbed Sharin'negan, and the reason we see it is that it is the SO6P eye. Whenever Madara controlled the Kyuubi, we saw his Sharingan in the Kyuubi's eye, so why can't the SO6P be controlling the Juubi if both the Uchiha and Senju can?
 

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Madara obviously fought the 1st hokage cos he wanted a sample of his wood-element DNA which he had plans of using to produce zetsus in order to raise an army of the future. I seriously doubt losing a fight would help anybody in awakening the rinnegan, there must be a catch to that.
 

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one word for this: NO

besides madaras has a rinnegan no need to wonder bout awakening one
 

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madara already had senju DNA in his body before he took nagato's rinnegan, we know this because he used izanagi when he was fighting konan for it. so i think he lost to first hokage on purpose so he could gather senju DNA or maybe he died so he could get rinnegan, then give it to nagato, and get a new pair of uchiha eyes. i think this is possible because if you remeber when he gave sasuke itachis eyes, he had a massive wall with a uchiha crest on it with lots of containers so its possible he could have just transplanted a new pair of eyes into himself.

Possible ??
Yes/No
 

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actually think about it:
we all know the most powerful doujutsu is the sharinnegan


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it has to be.

Sharingan + rinnegan = Sharin(ne)gan

They are connected. Maybe SO6P was the only to unlock the final sharingan. The rinnegan.

PLzz say if this is crap. I'm not so god with evidence and research



I think that the only way to have the Sharinnegan is to be the Juubi Jinchuuriki. It doesnt say that anywhere but i just assumed that since Madara hasn't performed his infinite tsukoyomi, and he said he would become ten tails jinchuuriki before he could complete it.
 
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