This is assuming that Tobi is indeed Madara and he did infact give Nagato his Rinnegan I have no idea how or when.
So how did Madara get ahold of the Rinnegan when the only one ever known to posses it was the SO6P? They say that the eldest son of the SO6P got the eyes of his father then his decendants became the Uchiha so I am assuming they mean the rinnegan just an incomplete version of it.
If you think about it the sharingan is always leveling up in some strange way.The inital mongekyo sharingan is awakened when you kill someone very close to you. Then you must take someone elses mongekyo and implant it to awaken the eternal mongekyo.
I believe after youve awakened the EMS you must then die which is what happened to Madara when he was killed in the battle with the first hokage the Rinnegan was awakened and Madara was brought back to life it does have this abillity as nagato demonstrated bringing all the villagers who died back to life.
I cant see any other way Madara could still be alive if not for this method, truly Madara died the fist Hokage would have made sure of it.
Wow, this is a fantastic theory. It would greatly simplify the matter regarding how he survived the battle with the first and may provide a reliable way to awaken the rinnegan. I think most of us assumed that what he meant by "giving" the rinnegan to Nagato meant he gave him his EMS, knowing that he would awaken Rinnegan at some point. But perhaps he did indeed give Nagato his actual awakened Rinnegan and it simply took time for Nagato to unlock it. I like this theory, I really do. There was starting to look like there was no way Madara could have survived the battle without actually dieing.
Another matter regards the Uchiha tablet. We know that more can be read with the sharingan, MS and Rinnegan in that order, but does it say how to get rinnegan? We know it says how to get MS but from what we know, it doesn't say how to get rinnegan. Perhaps Madara discovered it by mistake by getting killed, or maybe it does state the requirements on the tablet and it was always Madara's plan to loose to the 1st, or at least not plan on winning. Again, great theory man!
I think he developed the renningan after the fight with the first hokage, not due to dying but collecting his DNA, and we've yet to discover all the abilities of ems, but ur theory sounds plausible we would just need to hear what would be the next step to take after getting ems to obtain the renningan, and it seems to get worse down the line kill it friend, kill ur brother, next maybe like u said kill ur self, but then y fight and have some one kill u when he could of just feel on his own sword instead of the first hokage kicking his ass lol.
To get his DNA of course. We know that to use Izangi, Madara needed Senju DNA. In addition, he needed it as one of the 6 paths as well. However, there is no concrete evidence that a Senju body is needed for awakening Rinnegan. I really think this theory is right on, Ariow said it himself, the older brother got the sage's eyes, why would he need Senju DNA to develope the entirety of the sage's eyes? He only needs specific requirements that he himself can obtain. When it comes to becoming the complete Sage, he needs Senju DNA for sure.
that would all make sence however when u look at madara he still has one sharingan eye and then a rinnegan eye, if he wanted to use the rinnegan to the full hed have to have 2 of them. so if they really were connected then surely he wouldnt keep his sharingan eye?
Simple, his sharingan has his unique space-time justu. Maybe the Rinnegan doesn't have it. Would make sense since Pain never used it.
Don't think so. Otherwise Sasuke would die, come back to life and have the Rinnegan and EVERONE would cry about it.
It seems that by dieing you are rewarded a new Ocular Power and it brings you back to life. There is no way. It's a great theory but I don't think so. Who knows how many other people had Rinnegan and they awakened it before Madara killed them and took it for himself.
Plus the Juubi had the sharingan with like 9 tomes or what ever. Sage had Rinnegan and when he used his Ocular Powers he took over the Juubi's sharingan and changed it's complete color to the Rinnegan color and took control over it. But if the Juubi had powerful chakra and the higher Sharingan level thing it would have broke free from Genjutsu or Sage's Rinnegan control but it didn't. SO it might have been either just the way it's eye looked or Sage was unbelievable in Genjutsu.
I really think that the Jubi's changing eyes is a result of being controlled by the sage. Like when the Kyubi's eyes changed to sharingan, he was being controlled by Madara. Like all the other beasts, the Juubi has his own regular eye and his eye takes on the form of anyone's eye who is controlling it.
