[Discussion] Luffy's new bounty revealed

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ace was son of gold d roger and whitbeards 2nd division commander.he was considered more of a threat
a captain always gets more bounty - look at Zoro and Luffy (they are equal or maybe Luffy stronger, idk)
and look the difference in their bountys (still waiting for new Zoro bounty)
Luffy is the son of the most wanted man
 

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And people were theorising upto 700 million beri. Lol

I always said it wouldnt be his colleisum contestant number and i was correct. It doesnt go up that easily after 100 million. He has merely entered the new world, to have a higher bounty than 500 at this moment would be kinda ridiculous. Imo. U_U
 

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Maybe it was Oda's response to all those people who keep underestimating Ace? He only gave 500Millions and up to Luffy, an old legend, rival of Garp in his prime with Ace having the highest
 

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It's fine by me actually...

Ace was a division commander for WB, a Yonko...
Bounty reflects threat to Navy, not strength. If Ace were to do anything rebellious, he'd have WB's support and that's serious deal for Navy hence such high bounty...

Likely, even though Zoro is quite close to Law's strength but he'd never have even close to Law's bounty, because Law's a captain and Zoro can't do anything big w/o Luffy, his captain's consent...
 

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sadly only 500.000.000
Even ace, who was weaker and not even captain, had more.
wtf oda plsz
I think people need to start accepting the Ace hype and stop trying to downplay him for being beaten in Part 1. He lost to BB who had a clear advantage with his fruits ability and is hinted at being the biggest threat in the manga so it's not like Ace was taken out by some no name jobber.

Secondly he was shown to be the strongest of the ASL every time they're shown, so unless he seriously slacked off during his time with WB(which let's face it seems insanely unlikely) he should have still been slightly above Luffy and Sabo until the time of his death(Luffy and Sabo have each gotten an extra 2 years to surpass Ace which is why they look like they would blow him away now)

Third and I know this is a very debatable topic with a lot of people saying there's no evidence so that's that, but Ace was killed before evidence fully got a chance to shine through the manga so I feel the haki question should be left open and not just a closed case. Reasons: Ace was a Logia in the New World where "Logia's who rely on their power die" Ace showed in his fight with BB he kinda relies on his Logia powers so why is he not dead? Some say because he had WB's name behind him but then how does he make an over 500 mil bounty if no one confronts him? Mihawk was never shown using Armament Haki before the skip but was implied he has it after the time skip and its' fully explained intro during. If Ace's character had been left alive post skip I imagine/believe that he like pretty much every other high tier character in the New World would have shown haki. Also lastly the punch that killed him, as a Logia it should have went straight through his body and into Luffy right(Akainu wasn't showing any haki during that punch correct?)? Since it didn't it implies 1 of 2 things, Logia can choose to be intangible or not and Ace decided not to be intangible and take the punch to save Luffy or, Ace used haki in his body to reduce the force of the punch.

All that said I think Bounty Price escalation is one of the few things Oda didn't really consider. How do you have Croc a Shichibukai at 81 million bounty but Bellamy had a 55 mil and then a 195 mil? There's no world where Bellamy is more of a threat than Croc. Maybe Croc got his Shichibukai invite early on in his Pirate career and his bounty cut off early?
 

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Bounty doesn't = power. Looking at Dressrosa Luffy didn't do anything that would upset the government more than Ennies Lobby or Marineford so it would have been weird to see his bounty suddenly erupt. If Luffy had fought and defeated an admiral, then yeah you'd expect a much higher bounty but Doflamingo was a corrupt shichibukai who fujitora exposed as the government's negligence. If not for that his bounty would likely have been much higheras they'd have used Luffy as a scapegoat like they did in Alabasta.
 

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How come Ace can have a 550 mil bounty but yet Luffy, who is the son of the most wanted man in the world can't have a 560 mil bounty?

Oda missed out on a good opportunity, go mu means 5 and 6. He could have waited until Fuji reported back to Akainu before giving him an increase. That way Luffy gaining 5600 and fighting an admiral wouldn't be overlooked.

Sometimes I just don't understand Odas logic, maybe Oda intends for Luffy to still be weaker than Ace which makes no sense based off feats.

Bounty has nothing to do with power anyway but I'm sure people who like to downplay Luffy will use this against him.
 
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Bounty doesn't = power. Looking at Dressrosa Luffy didn't do anything that would upset the government more than Ennies Lobby or Marineford so it would have been weird to see his bounty suddenly erupt. If Luffy had fought and defeated an admiral, then yeah you'd expect a much higher bounty but Doflamingo was a corrupt shichibukai who fujitora exposed as the government's negligence. If not for that his bounty would likely have been much higheras they'd have used Luffy as a scapegoat like they did in Alabasta.
He dethroned the King of a country(whether he was corrupt or not), he beat another Shichibukai(a government employee essentially) and he formed a pirate alliance. All of those are worthy of a raise, all 3 together warrant the big increase. Plus he made the marines look bad which is a threat to their influence. If more people start believing in Straw Hats and pirates in general over the marines their order starts to fall apart.
 
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ace was son of gold d roger and whitbeards 2nd division commander.he was considered more of a threat
ace was apart of a yonkou crew so that would have raised his bounty
Not to mention the introduction of the Mera Mera during Corrida implied Ace has burned down multiple towns during his piracy, while Luffy doesn't really do that much damage(till Dressrosa of course).
 

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I don't think its Luffy's bounty. I think they were referring to God Usopp. I'll Wait for the best translation.


Bounty doesn't = power. Looking at Dressrosa Luffy didn't do anything that would upset the government more than Ennies Lobby or Marineford so it would have been weird to see his bounty suddenly erupt. If Luffy had fought and defeated an admiral, then yeah you'd expect a much higher bounty but Doflamingo was a corrupt shichibukai who fujitora exposed as the government's negligence. If not for that his bounty would likely have been much higheras they'd have used Luffy as a scapegoat like they did in Alabasta.
a 100 million bounty boost isn't an eruption for you lol? Especially since they said its harder to raise bounty when its around 300 mil or so.....
 

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Yeah I think its a mistranslation, when Luffy usually is revealed to have a bounty increase there's a bounty poster that proves it. I think its a mistake on Odas part not to mention it doesn't make sense for Luffy to get an increase this fast when Akainu doesn't even know if Fuji has captured him yet.
 

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Yeah I think its a mistranslation, when Luffy usually is revealed to have a bounty increase there's a bounty poster that proves it. I think its a mistake on Odas part not to mention it doesn't make sense for Luffy to get an increase this fast when Akainu doesn't even know if Fuji has captured him yet.
Not necessarily a mistranslation but they were simply calling out for God Usopp who had a bounty of 500 million laid out by Doflamingo, not Luffy.
 
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