[Discussion] List the top strongest (One Piece)

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no its just that there are genuinely so many strong characters , pre time skip he annihilates all supernovas low diff and drake (strongest supernova) would be ranked around 40th....
what do you mean drake the strongest supernova?
you forgot big mom, and crocodile must be under zoro since we haven't seen him after time skip and we haven't seen Drake so we can't say he is the strongest supernova because he was 4th place after kidd luffy and hawkins (before time skip)
 

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what do you mean drake the strongest supernova?
you forgot big mom, and crocodile must be under zoro since we haven't seen him after time skip and we haven't seen Drake so we can't say he is the strongest supernova because he was 4th place after kidd luffy and hawkins (before time skip)

crocodile and big mam are not supernova , vs kizaru drake was the only one able to hold ground on sabaody archipelago
 

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crocodile and big mam are not supernova , vs kizaru drake was the only one able to hold ground on sabaody archipelago
I mean you did put other yonkos so where is big mom? and I was saying that crocodile isn't strong enough to be above zoro so if zoro is 48 on your list then crocodile must be about 50
 

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I mean you did put other yonkos so where is big mom? and I was saying that crocodile isn't strong enough to be above zoro so if zoro is 48 on your list then crocodile must be about 50
i am pretty sure crocodile is above zoro unless zoro coats himself in water which means that crocodile>zoro

big mam is charlotte linlin
 

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1. Dragon/Shanks
2. Kaido
3. Big mom
4. Akainu
5. Mihawk
6. Blackbeard
7. Ben Beckman
8. Aokiji
9. Kizaru
10. Marco
11. Doflamingo
12. Jozu

Not sure where to put Garp/Sengoku. Don't really care about the rest for now. :p
 

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1. Only 2 VAs I believe are above Luffy & Zoro, Doberman and Onigumo

i am pretty sure crocodile is above zoro unless zoro coats himself in water which means that crocodile>zoro

big mam is charlotte linlin
2. Crocodile IS NOT ABOVE MARCO. He can't have that much of a boost in only 2 years. Bolded- why? Post TS zoro can use haki

3. Mihawk>Doffy and around Shank's lvl

4. Marco>Old Rayleigh & Beckman

5. Shiryu around Jozu's level

6. Zoro&Drake above Magellan, right under Law/Luffy/Kidd

7. Why is Lucci even up there?

8. Sanji>Bonney

9. Hancock right under Vista(hype)

10. Don't know where BB pirates go beside BB himself

Here is my opinion.
 

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1. Dragon
2. Shanks
3. Garp
4. Mihawk
6. Rayleigh
7. Sengoku
8. Blackbeard
9. Kizaru
10. Akainu

This list is a little effy because there's so much characters i might have missed some
 

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1. Only 2 VAs I believe are above Luffy & Zoro, Doberman and Onigumo



2. Crocodile IS NOT ABOVE MARCO. He can't have that much of a boost in only 2 years. Bolded- why? Post TS zoro can use haki

3. Mihawk>Doffy and around Shank's lvl

4. Marco>Old Rayleigh & Beckman

5. Shiryu around Jozu's level

6. Zoro&Drake above Magellan, right under Law/Luffy/Kidd

7. Why is Lucci even up there?

8. Sanji>Bonney

9. Hancock right under Vista(hype)

10. Don't know where BB pirates go beside BB himself

Here is my opinion.
This is correct.
 

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1. Only 2 VAs I believe are above Luffy & Zoro, Doberman and Onigumo



2. Crocodile IS NOT ABOVE MARCO. He can't have that much of a boost in only 2 years. Bolded- why? Post TS zoro can use haki

3. Mihawk>Doffy and around Shank's lvl

4. Marco>Old Rayleigh & Beckman

5. Shiryu around Jozu's level

6. Zoro&Drake above Magellan, right under Law/Luffy/Kidd

7. Why is Lucci even up there?

8. Sanji>Bonney

9. Hancock right under Vista(hype)

10. Don't know where BB pirates go beside BB himself

Here is my opinion.
1. there are 5 VA's who are on the same level , these are the ones whom i mentioned

2.crocodile can use haki too , he is also a more experienced fighter , his haki is stronger because zoro has only just been able to use it in the last year or so

3.i don't think mihawk is on yonkou level , i think donflamingo and mihawk are almost equal , but donflamingo's conquerers haki makes him superior

4.marco was getting annihilated by kizaru , onigumo gave him a hard time , ben beckmann and rayleigh held kizaru back and ben beckmann caused a surrender!

5.shiliew* is not that strong , he is very powerful , but luffy,zoro and sanji are on the same level/above most BB pirates asides a couple , maybe burgess , this would be an opportunity for luffy to achieve a power up at the tournement

6.on sabaody archipelago drake was the strongest supernova , we have not seen him yet but i simply rank the supernova's in my opinion based on what we have seen pre time skip seeing as we have only seen 7 since the time skip

7.lucci has been seen in a couple of pages of the manga , when luffy pummelled caeser lucci is seen with somebody else , no doubt lucci is stronger , if he is in the new world he will know how to use haki , he was already very powerful. the fact he is even shown provides evidence that he will have a large impact on the story later
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8.they are comparable , but i doubt it

9.that is your opinion

10.cool story bro! :p

Well, you clearly are a Luffy hater.... Never thought that would happen in One Piece
wrong... he is one of my 5 favourite characters
it is just that he still has such a long way to go
1.smoker
2.zoro
3.law
4.aokiji
5.luffy



soooooo many characters , if luffy is considered on this list then you clearly won't hate him , there are well over 300 named characters
 
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Since when does Crocodile have haki?
i assume this , he was kept on level 6 of impel down , there are several people on that floor who could use haki , he wouldnt need it to defeat zoro anyways , he can simply drain all moisture from zoro and make him a frail creature...
he can use his sand like zoro can use his sword and cut through almost anything

anyone experienced in the new world (who are powerful) can use haki
 

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i assume this , he was kept on level 6 of impel down , there are several people on that floor who could use haki , he wouldnt need it to defeat zoro anyways , he can simply drain all moisture from zoro and make him a frail creature...
he can use his sand like zoro can use his sword and cut through almost anything

anyone experienced in the new world (who are powerful) can use haki
Oh, I don't doubt he'll have haki post timeskip but he surely didn't have it pre timeskip.
 

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Oh, I don't doubt he'll have haki post timeskip but he surely didn't have it pre timeskip.
i think he did , i think he had armament haki , his attacks are too strong not to have it , but the other haki (forgot its name) when you can detect presence he sucked at since he was shocked that luffy stopped him from attacking whitebeard
 

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1. there are 5 VA's who are on the same level , these are the ones whom i mentioned

2.crocodile can use haki too , he is also a more experienced fighter , his haki is stronger because zoro has only just been able to use it in the last year or so

3.i don't think mihawk is on yonkou level , i think donflamingo and mihawk are almost equal , but donflamingo's conquerers haki makes him superior

4.marco was getting annihilated by kizaru , onigumo gave him a hard time , ben beckmann and rayleigh held kizaru back and ben beckmann caused a surrender!

5.shiliew* is not that strong , he is very powerful , but luffy,zoro and sanji are on the same level/above most BB pirates asides a couple , maybe burgess , this would be an opportunity for luffy to achieve a power up at the tournement

6.on sabaody archipelago drake was the strongest supernova , we have not seen him yet but i simply rank the supernova's in my opinion based on what we have seen pre time skip seeing as we have only seen 7 since the time skip

7.lucci has been seen in a couple of pages of the manga , when luffy pummelled caeser lucci is seen with somebody else , no doubt lucci is stronger , if he is in the new world he will know how to use haki , he was already very powerful

8.they are comparable , but i doubt it

9.that is your opinion

10.cool story bro! :p
2. I highly doubt in L6 you can feely walk around and communicate with prisoners. And it's impossible to just sit around and learn CoA which is stronger than the pupil of the WSS.

3. Mihawk is someone who is on par with Shanks. Not only during there days where Roger was alive but even now. Why? Shanks was willing to fight Mihawk when he showed up on their island but Mihawk didn't want to fight him because he was handicapped. Implying that with both arms, they are equal, and with one arm, Mihawk thinks he is >Shanks. Also, Doffy was so scared of Kaido that he gave up his 10 year legacy of being a Royal Warlord. And Shanks is probably >Kaido. And if Mihawk=Shanks, this means Mihawk>Kaido>Doffy. Furthermore, Mihawk may be Zoro' EoS opponent meaning Mihawk should be Top-Top-TIER. And Doffy is Low-Top-TIER.

4. Marco was not getting annihilated. If anything, Kizaru equaled him. Why? Kizaru's strongest attack went right through Marco in his fully transformed state. The only time Kizaru actually hurt Marco was when he was protecting Luffy and Kizaru cheapshotted him from the back, and when he had SS handcuffs on (another cheapshot). Also, Emperor FM's are meant to be somewhat equal, so BB=Marco>Kizaru.

5. Shiryuu is not that strong? He was equal to Magellan who has an OP DF. Meaning he had great CoA. And Magellan would've fodderized all of escaped ID prisoners together if it wasn't for them escaping via water. And if Luffy got this strong in the TS, than Shiryuu also attained more strength (not the growth Luffy had but still he did grow) meaning for now he is still over M3 (individually).



8. Sanji is as weak compared to Zoro, as Zoro is to Luffy. So it would be strange if Bonney is >Sanji
 

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2. I highly doubt in L6 you can feely walk around and communicate with prisoners. And it's impossible to just sit around and learn CoA which is stronger than the pupil of the WSS.

3. Mihawk is someone who is on par with Shanks. Not only during there days where Roger was alive but even now. Why? Shanks was willing to fight Mihawk when he showed up on their island but Mihawk didn't want to fight him because he was handicapped. Implying that with both arms, they are equal, and with one arm, Mihawk thinks he is >Shanks. Also, Doffy was so scared of Kaido that he gave up his 10 year legacy of being a Royal Warlord. And Shanks is probably >Kaido. And if Mihawk=Shanks, this means Mihawk>Kaido>Doffy. Furthermore, Mihawk may be Zoro' EoS opponent meaning Mihawk should be Top-Top-TIER. And Doffy is Low-Top-TIER.

4. Marco was not getting annihilated. If anything, Kizaru equaled him. Why? Kizaru's strongest attack went right through Marco in his fully transformed state. The only time Kizaru actually hurt Marco was when he was protecting Luffy and Kizaru cheapshotted him from the back, and when he had SS handcuffs on (another cheapshot). Also, Emperor FM's are meant to be somewhat equal, so BB=Marco>Kizaru.

5. Shiryuu is not that strong? He was equal to Magellan who has an OP DF. Meaning he had great CoA. And Magellan would've fodderized all of escaped ID prisoners together if it wasn't for them escaping via water. And if Luffy got this strong in the TS, than Shiryuu also attained more strength (not the growth Luffy had but still he did grow) meaning for now he is still over M3 (individually).



8. Sanji is as weak compared to Zoro, as Zoro is to Luffy. So it would be strange if Bonney is >Sanji
2.the strength level of level 6 prisoners is what i was getting at

3. point taken , but in my opinion shanks and dragon are the strongest by quite a ways , and mihawk is about as strong as the admirals

4. kizaru wasn't trying , he was laughing it off, shrugging off the fact his attack didnt work, the exact same attitued as he had vs the supernova's , as you can see here [video=youtube;BvDaX9r5Bc8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvDaX9r5Bc8[/video]

5. i meant he is not as strong as laserz said he was , he is obviously strong , you misunderstood what i meant

and finally bonney could just make sanji really old or really young and incapalbe to fight if he is caught off guard , this is my opinion , it is a close call though
 

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2.the strength level of level 6 prisoners is what i was getting at

3. point taken , but in my opinion shanks and dragon are the strongest by quite a ways , and mihawk is about as strong as the admirals

4. kizaru wasn't trying , he was laughing it off, shrugging off the fact his attack didnt work, the exact same attitued as he had vs the supernova's , as you can see here [video=youtube;BvDaX9r5Bc8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvDaX9r5Bc8[/video]

5. i meant he is not as strong as laserz said he was , he is obviously strong , you misunderstood what i meant

and finally bonney could just make sanji really old or really young and incapalbe to fight if he is caught off guard , this is my opinion , it is a close call though
2 things:
Kizaru attacked WB, and wouldn't he attack him with his strongest attack? And since he did, it went straight through Marco, meaning Kizaru's strongest attack doesn't even hurt him. Oh wait... "it did". Tell me, who was the first to make a joke about the others' strength? Kizaru gave him his strongest, Marco smiled it off. Marco gave Kizaru an all out strike, he laughed it off. End result = both equal.
 

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Marco was a tough fight for Kizaru. He even admitted so himself when trying to go directly for Whitebeard in Marineford
And his attitude just is like that. His care box is about empty
 
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