[Discussion] Law vs Zoro

Who?

  • Zoro

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  • Law

    Votes: 16 66.7%

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I don't think Zoro's Observation is that good. He said he has no way of locating Pica for sure inside of the Golem, something that he should be able to do if he had good enough Observation.
No he said he doesn't know the exact position, but he could still follow his movements like we can see here

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And it's all what he needs against Law

This fight can go two ways:

Law activates Room at the same time as Zoro takes out his swords, and as Zoro gets into his stance for an attack, Law simply Shambles the swords away. Law can make his room larger than multiple mountains, he can send Zoro's swords so far away, they're gone for the rest of the match.
Pretty certain armament won't allow this to happen


Edit: Oh wait if we're just comparing feats, then yeah, Law takes it. His cut to Vergo had a larger area than Zoro's cut to Pica and that cut was Zoro's strongest Santoryu.
The cut against Vergo was Law's strongest slash to date when we've yet to see Asura attacks from Zoro(which is his strongest mode). Besides, considering he was cutting the statue cleanly and the energy of the slash was sufficient to send it several feets away, i don't think it would have mattered even if the statue was larger. Not to mention the obvious thing that unlike Law who possess a df ignoring durability, Zoro cut the real thing with his own swordsmanship and physical strength

If he cut downward ... guess what genius?

Exactly. Its one of those common sense things.

Doesn't need to happen for you to know its true.. Law feats are better, sorry.

EDIT: Says The King Of The Pirates ..
I don't care if you think Law's feat was better or not. I was just correcting you
 

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No he said he doesn't know the exact position, but he could still follow his movements like we can see here

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And it's all what he needs against Law

Pretty certain armament won't allow this to happen


The cut against Vergo was Law's strongest slash to date when we've yet to see Asura attacks from Zoro(which is his strongest mode). Besides, considering he was cutting the statue cleanly and the energy of the slash was sufficient to send it several feets away, i don't think it would have mattered even if the statue was larger. Not to mention the obvious thing that unlike Law who possess a df ignoring durability, Zoro cut the real thing with his own swordsmanship and physical strength


I don't care if you think Law's feat was better or not. I was just correcting you
He was able to pick up on the upper half of the statue moving, hence the ¨gigi¨ sound effect. That would only be possible if Pica was residing in the upper half. It wasn't Observation or sensing or anything like that, just common sense and sight. Zoro was unable to pinpoint Pica's exact location because of a lack of Observation prowess.

There has been nothing that indicates that Zoro's Haki is stronger than Law's.

I could just as easily say the strongest cut Zoro has shown to date has been the one he just displayed. And while we know Zoro has more up his sleeve because of Asura, we know Law also has more up his sleeve because Vergo hasn't even been his strongest opponent, Doflamingo is, and it's reasonable to assume that to defeat someone stronger than Vergo, he's gonna need a slash stronger than what defeated Vergo. Also, the lower half of the statue started falling because Pica was no longer connected to it, thus there was no will keeping it upright.

I really don't care for the whole ¨Law's happened because of DF¨, if he did better, he did better. If you have to find excuses, then you have your answer.

You know what I meant I meant the attack Zoro used in the latest chapter to defeat Pica isn't his strongest attack using all 3 of his swords Im saying Zoro still has more destructive capabilities above that.
It's his strongest attack while using 3 swords.
 

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He was able to pick up on the upper half of the statue moving, hence the ¨gigi¨ sound effect. That would only be possible if Pica was residing in the upper half. It wasn't Observation or sensing or anything like that, just common sense and sight. Zoro was unable to pinpoint Pica's exact location because of a lack of Observation prowess.
Didn't you see the red circle? It was to show the aura Zoro was pinpointing with his observation

There has been nothing that indicates that Zoro's Haki is stronger than Law's.
It doesn't matter since Law doesn't use armament in his shambles. By clading the swords with armament, it should block Law's shamble ability

I could just as easily say the strongest cut Zoro has shown to date has been the one he just displayed. And while we know Zoro has more up his sleeve because of Asura, we know Law also has more up his sleeve because Vergo hasn't even been his strongest opponent, Doflamingo is, and it's reasonable to assume that to defeat someone stronger than Vergo, he's gonna need a slash stronger than what defeated Vergo.
But he was already defeated once by Doflamingo and didn't use that slash, so yes we do know his strongest slash remains against Vergo and we also know it's Luffy who will defeat Doflamingo, not Law

Also, the lower half of the statue started falling because Pica was no longer connected to it, thus there was no will keeping it upright.
The lower half never fell. It was already in contact with the floor

I really don't care for the whole ¨Law's happened because of DF¨, if he did better, he did better. If you have to find excuses, then you have your answer.
No excuse, just finding someone destroying things by his own swordsmanship and physical strength more impressive, but i guess it depends on how each person view things
 

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Didn't you see the red circle? It was to show the aura Zoro was pinpointing with his observation

It doesn't matter since Law doesn't use armament in his shambles. By clading the swords with armament, it should block Law's shamble ability

But he was already defeated once by Doflamingo and didn't use that slash, so yes we do know his strongest slash remains against Vergo and we also know it's Luffy who will defeat Doflamingo, not Law

The lower half never fell. It was already in contact with the floor

No excuse, just finding someone destroying things by his own swordsmanship and physical strength more impressive, but i guess it depends on how each person view things
That wasn't Observation Haki, it's a drawing tool to distinguish that that was Zoro to the reader. That white patch can be found in multiple other pages. For example, multiple times in these pages.[ ][ ]I suppose Scarlet's grave marker is also using Observation Haki? Why would and when has that ever been a signal for Observation Haki before?

For one, it was stated that Haki defends against Law's cutting power, not every power that ties into his Devil Fruit. There's no indication that Shambles follows the same weakness. Secondly, Law doesn't employ Haki into his cutting power either. It's not about whether or not Law can imbue enough Haki to bypass your own into what power he's using, but whether or not your Haki is at a level that is high enough to bypass Law's abilities. Assuming Shambles follows this same weakness, nothing indicates Zoro's Haki is strong enough to nullify any of Law's powers.

Law defeating Doflamingo is just as likely as Law defeating Doflamingo, and we know the only way Doffy is going down is through a joint effort. Luffy isn't gonna be able to do it along by any sight. We didn't see all of Law vs Doflamingo, and he was also confident that he could defeat Doffy this time, hinting that he still has tricks up his sleeve that we haven't seen, such as Radio Knife and Injection Shot. Law is confident he can defeat Doffy, so he must have something in his arsenal that he thinks will defeat him, and it's reasonable to assume it's bigger and better than what he cut Vergo with.

The upper half is obviously moving because it no longer has anything supporting it. It wasn't Zoro's force that's making it move, it's moving because it's about to start falling. I didn't realize you expect Pica's upper half to fly.

Nah it's an excuse. ¨Well, Law's might have been better, but-¨ The second you brought the concept of ¨but¨ in, it became an excuse. And before you say it, no you didn't literally say ¨but¨, you just may as well have.
 
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Law was never described to be a haki user either yet Vergo was utterly defeated by law. As I said above Pica said that he can solo everyone and Joker never denied his claim. Can that hype put him above SH's,Law,Sabo and Fujitora? Obviously not. Just because he was portrayed to be a haki user doesn't automatically means that he's miles above others.

He didn't just think that he could protect himself out of nowhere. He made that conclusion after witnessing Zoro's mini mountain level DC feats which are comparable to that of Law's mountain cutting ability. No fodder in his right mind would think that he can tank mountain level attacks which proves that he has decent amount of mastery over haki and is not far away from Vergo.

1-Except doffy didn't deny it because it wasn't important at that time,its like putting down your friend before the fight.and yes doffy was hyping vergo so hard as if his haki was the best in the family
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"his haki will block even your chop ability" someone as wise as doffy wouldn't randomly say that .mountain destroying attacks aren't that special to be honest ,I mean crroect me if i'm wrong but can oz destroy a mountain or no?he obviously can and look sanji was able to deflect it with only one kick
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that's mountain busting move right here
 

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well it`s defintly one of those tow scenarios:
1-zoro`s haki is not enough to withstand law`s cut abiltiy:
zoro gets the vergo treatment law wins high diff

2- zoro`s haki is enough to withstand law`s cut abiltiy:
zoro wins high dif
considering no one here has a hakimeter here there is no way we can know that unless they fought in the manga

edit: oops
 

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1-Except doffy didn't deny it because it wasn't important at that time,its like putting down your friend before the fight.and yes doffy was hyping vergo so hard as if his haki was the best in the family
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"his haki will block even your chop ability" someone as wise as doffy wouldn't randomly say that .mountain destroying attacks aren't that special to be honest ,I mean crroect me if i'm wrong but can oz destroy a mountain or no?he obviously can and look sanji was able to deflect it with only one kick
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that's mountain busting move right here
Wise? Did you just call Doffy wise? Same guy that thought Diamante could handle Burgess, Luffy, and Sabo? And same guy that thought Pica could handle every one including an Admiral? Yeah you might need to rethink that part man.
 

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No, you said that.

He is but isn't a new character, well compared to Zoro obviously he will be stronger regardless.

You people know how writers do it so don't act dumb or try to defend something that's true idc if you like Zoro or not.

There are a lot of things that are said, but duh he's trained. I wouldn't say as much or more because the simple fact is he was trained by THE BEST SWORDSMEN. So doesn't really matter if he trained more than Zoro or not XD

Now does it?

I don't even understand what half of your post says and it doesn't matter with whom you have trained. If you don't have enough potential you can not accomplish anything.


I don't think Zoro's Observation is that good. He said he has no way of locating Pica for sure inside of the Golem, something that he should be able to do if he had good enough Observation. This fight can go two ways:

Law activates Room at the same time as Zoro takes out his swords, and as Zoro gets into his stance for an attack, Law simply Shambles the swords away. Law can make his room larger than multiple mountains, he can send Zoro's swords so far away, they're gone for the rest of the match.

Or, Zoro manages to engage Law first, and it's a high diff fight. But, imo if Law succeeds on teleporting Zoro's swords away, Law can actually low-diff. And I see Law being able to teleport Zoro's swords away happening more than Zoro being able to engage Law first.

Edit: Oh wait if we're just comparing feats, then yeah, Law takes it. His cut to Vergo had a larger area than Zoro's cut to Pica and that cut was Zoro's strongest Santoryu.

Logically that point is true but that's not how things work in OP so no that taking away swords thing is not going to happen in a battle b/w Zoro and Law.
 
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I don't even understand what half of your post says and it doesn't matter with whom you have trained. If you don't have enough potential you can not accomplish anything.




Logically that point is true but that's not how things work in OP so no that taking away swords thing is not going to happen in a battle b/w Zoro and Law.
Go to NDS if you're gonna say something won't happen because of plot. It's a versus match, that doesn't apply.
 

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Go to NDS if you're gonna say something won't happen because of plot. It's a versus match, that doesn't apply.

If only you could explain what stopped him from taking away Fujitora's sword and Smoker's jitte. I would actually agree with you.Lol If he's not capable of taking away Smoker's jitte than I have no reason to believe that he can do that against someone stronger than Smoker. Don't talk as if people of OP section are any better than people at NDS. We are all active members of NDS at one point in past and I am sure we both learned a lot of things from NDS.

 

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If only you could explain what stopped him from taking away Fujitora's sword and Smoker's jitte. I would actually agree with you.Lol If he's not capable of taking away Smoker's jitte than I have no reason to believe that he can do that against someone stronger than Smoker. Don't talk as if people of OP section are any better than people at NDS. We are all active members of NDS at one point in past and I am sure we both learned a lot of things from NDS.

Zoro didn't kill Monet with his last strike. Does that mean he could not?
Kizaru shot Luffy in the stomach and the key rather than shooting him in the face and killing him. Does that mean he could not do it?
Doflamingo didn't use Overheat on Law. Does that mean he could not do it?
Kizaru intercepted Luffy when he rushed past the Admirals. Does that mean Akainu and Kuzan could not do it themselves?
Kuzan didn't smash Luffy to pieces. Does that mean he could not do it?
Rayleigh opted to slash Kizaru's light path rather than slicing Kizaru himself or straight up decapitating him. Does that mean he could not do it?

Law was unable to Shambles Smoker's Jitte because Smoker engaged him with it before he had the chance, hence why I said if Zoro engages Law with his swords before Law can Shambles his sword, it'd be much harder.
 

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Law>Zoro....His Df is too haxxed....But overall in swordsmanship Zoro is better because he doesn't rely on any sort of power apart from his own physical strength and spirit.
 

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is this like Zoro vs Law
or Zoros feat vs Laws feat

i think Zoros feat is more impressive since he doesnt have a df to help him and Pica was as big as that mountain Law cut
but Vergos haki is probably stronger than Picas so idk :/
 

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Zoro didn't kill Monet with his last strike. Does that mean he could not?
Kizaru shot Luffy in the stomach and the key rather than shooting him in the face and killing him. Does that mean he could not do it?
Doflamingo didn't use Overheat on Law. Does that mean he could not do it?
Kizaru intercepted Luffy when he rushed past the Admirals. Does that mean Akainu and Kuzan could not do it themselves?
Kuzan didn't smash Luffy to pieces. Does that mean he could not do it?
Rayleigh opted to slash Kizaru's light path rather than slicing Kizaru himself or straight up decapitating him. Does that mean he could not do it?

Law was unable to Shambles Smoker's Jitte because Smoker engaged him with it before he had the chance, hence why I said if Zoro engages Law with his swords before Law can Shambles his sword, it'd be much harder.

They didn't happened because of plot and the same reason can be applied to Zoro vs Law. Law didn't do that coz that's how writer planned his ability to work so I have no reason to go beyond what writer planned for him. After all it's his own manga.

Last time I checked Smoker never really did something like that. Law has plenty of time to do so but he didn't which would go against your point. And if Smoker can attack him without giving a chance to use Shambles then so can Zoro.

 
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