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For an Inuzuka, those little things make all the difference. I've had to build this thing up bit by bit, slowly stacking things onto it to make it be able to stand up to these tier 3/4/5 bios. You know how hard it is to win a fight when all you got is rolling dogs. You don't know my struggle. Sure they clown Nara for being garbage, but Inuzuka is less than garbage. We're the juice at the bottom of the dumpster. The stagnant liquid filth....Still, it is fun to use, as annoying and limiting as it is.
Lmao come on now, we both now Highbreed strong strong.
And hey at least you had more than one submitter z.z Can’t even slide shit through anymore @Daemon
 

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Lmao come on now, we both now Highbreed strong strong.
And hey at least you had more than one submitter z.z Can’t even slide shit through anymore @Daemon
They're strong support due to their senses and stuff, but the current meta of the RP has people throwing out 120 - 130 damage per turn, so they're only strong on a situational basis when compared to the kind of abilities I fight. It makes it challenging, and due to the fact that I can't use powerful widespread attacks, or things with an expansive range in genera due to the risk of hitting them puts me at a disadvantage
 

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They would be stronger if sensory depravation was easier. One of the issues we always had in the RP is that hindering your opponents senses is easily avoided/countered. Where as Hidden Mist in the manga/anime is increadibly strong, here we can just blow it away. Additionally, fighting in a forest, smoke bombs, dust clouds, etc all have very little impact in a battle. As a result, having a canine companion with enhanced senses or increased agility is just a liability. Fighting with two units is often deterimental and divides your focus and makes you have to defend two units at the same time.

Having said that, Inuzukas are much more interesting than Naras.
 

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Seriously? From all the CCs I checked, yours had one of the more interesting and engaging fantasy. Perhaps its because I'm a fan of Claymore though. Hate it never got more chapters.

Of all the CCs, the two I always felt had the most potencial but were never fully explored were the Valentine and the Ganmi. Having said that, having potencial or having a nice fantasy or a cool aesthetic to it doesn't always translate into Raw power.
I've always favored abilities/clans that are mental based but also clans that are based on the concept of "weaponized imagination". This would be clans like Kisei, Hayabusa,Binkan Surgebinders etc that all revolve around these, but of course I was only able to gain so much so I had to take what I can get. I know, I'm Mr. "Has all the clans blah blah blah" or w.e shit people say now a days, but I've come to love the aspect of creation and your mind being your only limitation. Which is why I picked up Ink Ninjutsu as its a field that expressed it the best out of any ability to me that hadn't been tampered with the time.

There's a lot of canon clans that I like too but they never really stuck to me as much as custom clans did as I find more creative freedom in these clans. I loved Ganmi and as it's head I really did enjoy it but I was too much locked into the idea of "I want to make these CCJ that Lili would be proud of" but I never could properly achieve it so I recently gave up on it and allowed someone else to give it a try.
 
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They would be stronger if sensory depravation was easier. One of the issues we always had in the RP is that hindering your opponents senses is easily avoided/countered. Where as Hidden Mist in the manga/anime is increadibly strong, here we can just blow it away. Additionally, fighting in a forest, smoke bombs, dust clouds, etc all have very little impact in a battle. As a result, having a canine companion with enhanced senses or increased agility is just a liability. Fighting with two units is often deterimental and divides your focus and makes you have to defend two units at the same time.

Having said that, Inuzukas are much more interesting than Naras.
Indeed. Just recently I was put in a position where me and all of my dogs were placed in a genjutsu, so like 2/3 of my moves were spent removing myself and them from it. Same issue sometimes when dealing with a large scale attack you have to defend from. Though like I said before, it's situational, and I find the challenge fun. One advantage they do give that I enjoy though is that all our moves occur in the same tf, so we can overwhelm the enemy/keep them on the defensive if the flow of the fight is in our favor.

Don't need high breeds for this.

I've always favored abilities/clans that are mental based but also clans that are based on the concept of "weaponized imagination". This would be clans like Kisei, Hayabusa,Binkan Surgebinders etc that all revolve around these, but of course I was only able to gain so much so I had to take what I can get. I know, I'm Mr. "Has all the clans blah blah blah" or w.e shit people say now a days, but I've come to love the aspect of creation and your mind being your only limitation. Which is why I picked up Ink Ninjutsu as its a field that expressed it the best out of any ability to me that hadn't been tampered with the time.

There's a lot of canon clans that I like too but they never really stuck to me as much as custom clans did as I find more creative freedom in these clans. I loved Ganmi and as it's head I really did enjoy it but I was too much locked into the idea of "I want to make these CCJ that Lili would be proud of" but I never could properly achieve it so I recently gave up on it and allowed someone else to give it a try.

Give me back my inuzuka cj slots you traitor :rage:
 
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Indeed. Just recently I was put in a position where me and all of my dogs were placed in a genjutsu, so like 2/3 of my moves were spent removing myself and them from it. Same issue sometimes when dealing with a large scale attack you have to defend from. Though like I said before, it's situational, and I find the challenge fun. One advantage they do give that I enjoy though is that all our moves occur in the same tf, so we can overwhelm the enemy/keep them on the defensive if the flow of the fight is in our favor.



Don't need high breeds for this.




Give me back my inuzuka cj slots you traitor
Hush your mouth before I put a muzzle on it
 
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They would be stronger if sensory depravation was easier. One of the issues we always had in the RP is that hindering your opponents senses is easily avoided/countered. Where as Hidden Mist in the manga/anime is increadibly strong, here we can just blow it away. Additionally, fighting in a forest, smoke bombs, dust clouds, etc all have very little impact in a battle. As a result, having a canine companion with enhanced senses or increased agility is just a liability. Fighting with two units is often deterimental and divides your focus and makes you have to defend two units at the same time.

Having said that, Inuzukas are much more interesting than Naras.
I think I've got maybe one stealth technique but that's it, it's generally not worthwhile. The whole 'multiple units vulnerable' thing is why when I first picked up Inuzuka, I didn't even use a dog in battle. Really the entire clan was more of a cosmetic thing. No clue why I stuck with it lmao.

Though, that flaw was partially solved after a while, and once it was I invested more into the clan. But the thing is, Inuzuka can only really be strong when the dogs are a physical threat. Akamaru, in the early stages of the manga, he could kill you. One good fang over fang or passing fang could tear through defences and have a shinobi down and out - and he was just a pup.
That's what I tried to emulate the most, and for a while that worked. It got to the point where depending on who I was up against, my dogs could actually do most of the fighting for me.

But it's very much brute force, which leads to the problem of;
If the dogs aren't strong enough one attack counters their offence, kills them, and threatens you all at once. Which sucks, but as the rp scaled higher and higher it became more of a likely eventuality.

And there wasn't really anything to compensate.
Inuzuka were a meme in the manga.
Inuzuka were a meme in the RP.
My customs were considered broken/op/beyond what Inuzuka should do and there was a desire to curb that - which would always lead to reluctance towards of increasing the Inuzuka power budget.

I disagree of course. If i'd picked a stronger ability from the start there'd be a lot more to complain about. There's also the fact that Inuzuka comes with a lot of drawbacks that most people don't really consider. Multiple units thing is just the start, I'm also screwed out of modes - because you can either use the mode, or use the transformation that grants you access to your HA (and in my case, protects my dogs) - not both, and there's a couple other glaring weaknesses too. But I'll let other people figure those out for themselves (assuming they even care to, AJ's pretty much the only Inuzuka who still fights at this point and his Command Arts is probably more relevant at this stage)


That's not Highbreed, it's another technique entirely - and the only Inuzuka technique that I'll admit is well and truly broken. Not because it's OP, but just because it extends Inuzuka conceptually. I'd argue that it was necessary for Inuzuka to be viable, others would say otherwise. Fair enough.
 

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Whats your CC?
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Seriously? From all the CCs I checked, yours had one of the more interesting and engaging fantasy. Perhaps its because I'm a fan of Claymore though. Hate it never got more chapters.

Of all the CCs, the two I always felt had the most potencial but were never fully explored were the Valentine and the Ganmi. Having said that, having potencial or having a nice fantasy or a cool aesthetic to it doesn't always translate into Raw power.
Shady addressed plus wasn't really my clan it was Zap idea I honestly shouldn't have wasted my spot for
 

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(assuming they even care to, AJ's pretty much the only Inuzuka who still fights at this point and his Command Arts is probably more relevant at this stage)
See lemme stop you right here. People are quick to say this when it isn't the case. No command arts aren't more relevant at this stage, because if you look at my past like 5 fights, especially going back to 2016/2017 when I went inactive, I've primarily used my like 80% Inuzuka customs. the fight with Pervy to win HHG. The fight with Penguin to get into Akatsuki, my fight with Ian I mentioned above, my fight with priest, and any fight since remade my Inuzuka.

People hype and talk about how broken CA are when in the current meta they barely achieve anything and the most powerful CA tech can easily be absorbed or erased.

Elemental CA as a whole is pretty useless and hasn't be used in years, so no, they're not more relevant.

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Lmao you wanna beat me when I'm weaker than you and you know it won't even be a challenge?
 

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See lemme stop you right here. People are quick to say this when it isn't the case. No command arts aren't more relevant at this stage, because if you look at my past like 5 fights, especially going back to 2016/2017 when I went inactive, I've primarily used my like 80% Inuzuka customs. the fight with Pervy to win HHG. The fight with Penguin to get into Akatsuki, my fight with Ian I mentioned above, my fight with priest, and any fight since remade my Inuzuka.

People hype and talk about how broken CA are when in the current meta they barely achieve anything and the most powerful CA tech can easily be absorbed or erased.

Elemental CA as a whole is pretty useless and hasn't be used in years, so no, they're not more relevant.



Lmao you wanna beat me when I'm weaker than you and you know it won't even be a challenge?
> probably more relevant at this point.
Idk what your problem is but it's like you're not even reading what I type anymore. You just see red.
 

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> probably more relevant at this point.
Idk what your problem is but it's like you're not even reading what I type anymore. You just see red.
Alright, let me rephrase what I said then. I've had more success with Inuzuka than I ever did with command arts, so no they're not more relevant than Inuzuka at this point.
 
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