Konoha Jounin vs Itachi and Kisame Part 2

[ItachiStylez]

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[ObieTwo Kenobi]

Sorry for the late, had other things to take care of.

- Water bubble traps? Gai's aura while in gated form repels water [

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]. Did you even read my post?
- Haha, fusion form? First of all, Kisame only goes fusion mode when the water dome is set up [

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]; simply allowing him to breathe. That is all. Now you tell me, why would Kisame fuse when Gai's aura allows him to repel the water dome? It isn't effective against an opponent like Gai, that is all.
- Healing? Kisame absorbs the chakra of the attack/person and converts into his own energy [

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]. Gai being a Taijutsu based fighter will have nothing to fear, and if he were to confront a Gated Gai in CQC again, game over [

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- As far as your "it'd be too late" proposition... really? Gai was shown to open the 6th gate instantly [

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], despite him being already trapped in one of Kisame's water formations.

The aura is not wide enough to repel all the water Kisame can create. It can push away the water from Gai to help him breath, but it ain't gonna harm Kisame. Even If the water gets pushed away, it still exists and Kisame can use it in his favor, with his large-scaled suiton attacks.
Kisame fuses when any kind of water is up, it doesn't really have to be the bubble. As I said earlier, even if Gai pushes the water, it won't vanish. Kisame still can transform.
Gai, on the other hand, can't keep using any advanced gates for a very long time. He faced massive tire after opening the 6th or the 7th gate. Kisame has loads of chakra to keep him going all day long.
Gai has chakra. He might not use it in battle, but he does have it. Getting in contact with Samehada or the fused Kisame will only lead the chakra to get absorb, which will cause massive tire too. ( If all your body chakra is absorbed, you're dead. )

I mentioned the buddy method in the case of Itachi's lower Genjutsu's; why you're mentioning Tsukuyomi despite me suggesting another route in overcoming it is beyond me. Using the buddy method will waste their time in their favour? Vice versa my friend, it's Itachi who's going to be wasting not only his time, but his chakra. He can try and use weaker Genjutsu's all day long; not only are they futile, but he's progressively depleting his stamina. As far as it allowing Itachi to create openings, you couldn't be any wronger. Itachi being a single being can only trap a single person in a Genjutsu at a time [

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]. That is of course, if he chooses not to use clones -- pretty pointless, as he'd only be dividing his chakra in half, and even then it can still be broken by people like Kakashi with courtesy of the Sharingan, and Hiashi being able to fight with his eyes closed [

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]. So regardless of the alternative routes Itachi takes to place them in smaller Genjutsu, the Konoha Jounin will always have someone to not only break them out of it, but protect them. Konoha Jounin, possessing the overwhelming numbers, need only one person disturb their chakra, and thus the Genjutsu is broken. During this time, I fail to see how Itachi can launch an attack when you've got 4 more Jounin standing vigilantly. Any blindsiding attacks are automatically negated by the Byakugan.

First of all, Tsukyomi can't be countred, It would be a waste of time to think of a counter. It's 100% effective with a simple eye contact. Hiashi can close his eyes? fine, what about the others? Still, it's quite impossible to do anything with closed eyes. We're talking about facing Itachi in here, not a random fodder Zetsu clone in the war. Keep Hiashi's eyes open and he will never be able to take out Itachi.
As for the genjutsu, Itachi's skills in this level are far beyond perfect. It's almost impossible to notice that you, or your teammates, are in Genjutsu. I'd like to mention the exemple of Naruto who was trapped in Itachi's Ephemeral; Which is obviously his weakest as it's not sharingan-based; He was trapped for a long while before he was saved, even with the presence of Kakashi, Sakura and Chiyo; High-jounin level shinobi except for Sakura; It took them some time to figure out that he's inside an illusion and to break him out, Imagine a stronger genjuts, which is sharingan-based. Itachi is so smart, too. He won't just keep spamming Genjutsus and watch them break out. He can use his Exploding Clones, his Katon or his Suiton, which only Kakashi saw them coming the time they faced each other.

And no, having knowledge will help you. Same knowledge which helped Kakashi avoid being placed in a Genjutsu in their second altercation[

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]. Same knowledge which helped Gai formulate a counter strategy [

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]. Passing on this knowledge means Hiashi can fight with his eyes closed, Gai can fight focusing on the feet (when he's done pummeling Kisame U_U), Kakashi can use various clone feints, and he's also mastered Gai's technique, Yamato through the use of long range Mokuton attacks and Wood bunshins with telepathic communication [

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] etc.. I won't deny someone ought to get caught in Tsukuyomi, but it won't be easy.

Knowledge worked for Kakashi once, and his clone was already trapped in the illusion. I fail to see how can he come up with a strategy that makes Itachi, a mangekyo-sharingan user, mistake him for a clone? Itachi was fooled as he didn't have his full-potential in their last fight, he didn't have his full-chakra reserves and he didn't even want to kill Kakashi. Kakashi, on the other hand, was bloodlusted.
Do you seriously believe Gai's feet technique can help him? He will, first, be facing Kisame. Second of all, Itachi can trap him in his illusion by just pointing his finger. It would be enough to break his focus and create an opening for Itachi to either eye-contact him or Amaterasu his face.

Itachi is a resourceful person. If something doesn't work the first time, he isn't using it again. Using Amaterasu during the perfect time won't stop Hiashi from seeing through it. He can see the build up of chakra in the eye, step 1. Then, the all obvious bleeding eye comes, step 2. This is more than enough time for Yamato to erect massive Mokuton constructs [

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], hindering Itachi's line of sight. From there, other measures can be taken to ensure they escape the flames entirely.

Do you realise that Itachi does have an Amaterasu in the right eye, while Tsukyomi in the left one? How is Hiashi gonna see the build up chakra while his eyes closed? You either look in Itachi's eyes and get Tsukyomied, or you avoid the eye contact and see yourself get burned.
Yamato shall be the first one Itachi will be taking out, to avoid his defencive capacities. ^^

No, just no. In a nutshell, the way Shinra Tensei

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Amaterasu, is the same way Kaiten will. Kaiten expels chakra in an outward force, repelling either the attack, or the person [

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Or perhaps Gaara's

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? Nah. It's just going to get repelled.

False.
Shinra Tensei did not repel it, it pushed it. The Flame, will burn anything that comes in contact, even the barrier created by the Byakugan;aka The nutshell. ST pushes things, Kaiten only tankes thing as it's spinning around itself. And I fail to see how can flames be repelled, because they can't, they will just stick in the barrier until the user stop spinning, and will burn his flesh.

Then he simply gets outlasted. He can't hide in his Susano'o forever. And actually, should Gai return after beating up Kisame, Hirudora turns his Ribcage into dust.

What makes you think that Hirudora is enough to break the Susanoo? Itachi won't even need to hide in the Susanoo forever, he will only use it for defencive purposes such as blocking the elemental attack, or when he's getting overwhelmed from all sides. He can display susanoo with a great speed, even greater than the speed of Kirin. I fail to see how he's gonna get touched. The Ribcage takes less chakra than the complete susanoo, and Itachi kept the complete susanoo for a fine period of time, against Sasuke, and killed Oro's strongest summon. He won't have any problem keeping the ribcage for a long time, as we have Prime Itachi in here.

 

[Zexion~]

Akatsuki duo win this, with knowledge Itachi will be taking on Gai and win with medium difficulty meanwhile Kisame can stall if not even solo the rest of the jounin ._.


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[BenjerminGaye]

Team itachi shits. Manga canon made base itachi shit on 2 konoha jounin with the lowest of difficulty. Only challenge is kakashi and hiashi but kisame could shit on those while itachi shits on the rest.

Selective matchups I see. I mean guy already decimated kisame twice.(thrice if one includes the clone) All he needs is 6 gates. Then he merks itachi with hirudora.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Selective matchups I see. I mean guy already decimated kisame twice.(thrice if one includes the clone) All he needs is 6 gates. Then he merks itachi with hirudora.

Guy's not going to be fighting Kisame. Itachi's already shown he's capable of keeping up with naruto. With the 5's in speed, base itachi can keep up with base guy just fine. Guy would be a fool to leave his attention on Kisame while itachi is merking him whereas kisame doesn't need to give 2 shits about Guy and continue to merk everyone else because Itachi's there to protect him. While Kisame's thrashing kakashi and hiashi, there's no way in hell they're switching their focus onto itachi. Kuchiyose sharks + thousands of feeding sharks + water environment is too much pressure for them already.

The second guy opens gates, itachi brings up V3 around himself and kisame and repels hirudora; Guy proceeds to get Gate whiplash and itachi executes him quickly.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Guy's not going to be fighting Kisame. Itachi's already shown he's capable of keeping up with naruto. With the 5's in speed, base itachi can keep up with base guy just fine. Guy would be a fool to leave his attention on Kisame while itachi is merking him whereas kisame doesn't need to give 2 shits about Guy and continue to merk everyone else because Itachi's there to protect him. While Kisame's thrashing kakashi and hiashi, there's no way in hell they're switching their focus onto itachi. Kuchiyose sharks + thousands of feeding sharks + water environment is too much pressure for them already.

The second guy opens gates, itachi brings up V3 around himself and kisame and repels hirudora; Guy proceeds to get Gate whiplash and itachi executes him quickly.

Guy is going to be fighting kisame. Itachi can't stop 6 gated guy's speed. Especially if kakashi and hisahi is on his ass. And guy already knows how to counter itachi's sharingan by fighting based on feet. So itachi can't keep him distracted or hold him at bay. Guy was able to fight on par with kamui obito without so much as getting scratched or touched. Itachi can't keep him at bay with cqc or genjutsu. Kisame already got tricked by kakashi's clones so the same will happen again if they go head to head. But they won't since guy will end him instantly with asakujaku. Then guy pops the 7th gate out and forces itachi to block with complete susanno since anything less will get destroyed. After itachi is exhausted from pulling out susanno the rest of the team rapes. And quite frankly there's nothing stopping guy from doing two times in a row since he was able to maintain 7 gates after using both asakujaku and hirudora. Mid diff. K jounin

 

[AGoodBoy]

Guy is going to be fighting kisame. Itachi can't stop 6 gated guy's speed. Especially if kakashi and hisahi is on his ass. And guy already knows how to counter itachi's sharingan by fighting based on feet. So itachi can't keep him distracted or hold him at bay. Guy was able to fight on par with kamui obito without so much as getting scratched or touched. Itachi can't keep him at bay with cqc or genjutsu. Kisame already got tricked by kakashi's clones so the same will happen again if they go head to head. But they won't since guy will end him instantly with asakujaku. Then guy pops the 7th gate out and forces itachi to block with complete susanno since anything less will get destroyed. After itachi is exhausted from pulling out susanno the rest of the team rapes. And quite frankly there's nothing stopping guy from doing two times in a row since he was able to maintain 7 gates after using both asakujaku and hirudora. Mid diff. K jounin

There's just one problem with your little theory there. Hirudora wasn't even powerful enough to kill Kisame without samehade.

Guy will waste hirudora on Kisame or itachi, at which point itachi tanks it or Kisame fuses with samehade to heal up and WD GG 99% of team 2. Guy then becomes a non-factor due to gate whip lash and kakashi and hiashi get raped by Kisame's WD.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

There's just one problem with your little theory there. Hirudora wasn't even powerful enough to kill Kisame without samehade.

Guy will waste hirudora on Kisame or itachi, at which point itachi tanks it or Kisame fuses with samehade to heal up and WD GG 99% of team 2. Guy then becomes a non-factor due to gate whip lash and kakashi and hiashi get raped by Kisame's WD.

He only needs 6 gates for kisame. Asakjaku is more than enough. And he was told to let kisame live and as such he lived after the punch. And if itachi pulls out the susanno he'd die from chakra exhaustion. Guy didn't show signs of gate whiplash until kisame was well secured long after their fight. Same thing happened after he fought the tailed beasts. He went 6 gates used asakujaku then went toe to toe with obito without getting touched. He only showed signs of exhaustion after he pulled gates out again and that time his hirudora literally ate madara's susanno.

 

[AGoodBoy]

He only needs 6 gates for kisame. Asakjaku is more than enough. And he was told to let kisame live and as such he lived after the punch. And if itachi pulls out the susanno he'd die from chakra exhaustion. Guy didn't show signs of gate whiplash until kisame was well secured long after their fight. Same thing happened after he fought the tailed beasts. He went 6 gates used asakujaku then went toe to toe with obito without getting touched. He only showed signs of exhaustion after he pulled gates out again and that time his hirudora literally ate madara's susanno.

Asaku is weaker than hirudora which couldn't kill him.
Yea, he did asaku then morning tiger and almost killed himself. Kisame can tank both by just healing up after each use/samehade fusion. For that matter he and itachi can fight close together like how teams usually fight so itachi can pop up susano'o around him at any time.
Madara didn't have yata. Hirudora is just a bunch of air pressure, it'd be bounced back.
Oh, and, this argument is now done since you're going with fanfic that itachi dies as soon as he opens Susano'o.

 

[Prince Charles]

Itachi can put the majority of them in genjutsu probably, kakashi managed to put 2 people into a sharigan genjutsu at the same time.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Asaku is weaker than hirudora which couldn't kill him.
Yea, he did asaku then morning tiger and almost killed himself. Kisame can tank both by just healing up after each use/samehade fusion. For that matter he and itachi can fight close together like how teams usually fight so itachi can pop up susano'o around him at any time.
Madara didn't have yata. Hirudora is just a bunch of air pressure, it'd be bounced back.
Oh, and, this argument is now done since you're going with fanfic that itachi dies as soon as he opens Susano'o.

Kisame isn't living after asaku. He only survived hirudora since
a) it had to through wsb
B) guy wasn't trying to kill but capture
Kisame can only heal if he gets chakra from someone to heal. So unless itachi is willing to spare what little he has kisame is pretty much dead after the six'h gate opens up.

Spirit weapons are restricted itachi doesn't have it in this situation either.

If the much healthier sasuke couldn't maintain susanno(not even full) for ten minutes against danzo how long you think itachi is going to hold complete susanno? Much less pull it out again after guy nukes it with hirudora?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Itachi can put the majority of them in genjutsu probably, kakashi managed to put 2 people into a sharigan genjutsu at the same time.

The only genjutsu that's going to work on kakashi is tsukuyomi(which is only one at a time) Everyone else gets broken out by hiashi via buddy method. Guy will be looking at feet so he won't get caught either.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Kisame isn't living after asaku. He only survived hirudora since
a) it had to through wsb
B) guy wasn't trying to kill but capture
Kisame can only heal if he gets chakra from someone to heal. So unless itachi is willing to spare what little he has kisame is pretty much dead after the six'h gate opens up.

Spirit weapons are restricted itachi doesn't have it in this situation either.

If the much healthier sasuke couldn't maintain susanno(not even full) for ten minutes against danzo how long you think itachi is going to hold complete susanno? Much less pull it out again after guy nukes it with hirudora?

samehade heals kisame. it doesn't need anyone's chakra first not like it can't get it from anyone here.
what makes you think it won't be passing through water again seeing as kisame starts off with water shockwave?
Lmao at guy controlling strength of hirudora with this not want to kill thing. That guy made a pressure wave that blasted across the entire island
Itachi held up susano'o long enough to take out a full powered sannin. Weak little guy is no problem considering gates only last seconds.

I don't even think you know what kisame or itachi is capable of rofl. Lol @ you basically trying to solo kisame and itachi with Guy

 

[BenjerminGaye]

samehade heals kisame. it doesn't need anyone's chakra first not like it can't get it from anyone here.
what makes you think it won't be passing through water again seeing as kisame starts off with water shockwave?
Lmao at guy controlling strength of hirudora with this not want to kill thing. That guy made a pressure wave that blasted across the entire island
Itachi held up susano'o long enough to take out a full powered sannin. Weak little guy is no problem considering gates only last seconds.

I don't even think you know what kisame or itachi is capable of rofl. Lol @ you basically trying to solo kisame and itachi with Guy

Show me a scan of it healing without taking someone's chakra first.
Did he have to pass through water to use asakujaku? Nope. He just opened gates which auto pushes it away then proceeds to light kisame up.
We're his orders not to capture? I'm quite sure they were. Even then he was standing over kisame after hirudora and he didn't kill him.

Give me a time scale cuz it definitely isn't ten minutes and I doubt he's pulling out the complete twice. Besides hiashi is there to airpalm whatever adavces he tries to make kakashi is there to attack him from underground with mole tech and yamato too.

Guy only needs 6 for kisame and no matter the situation he beats kisame every time.

Then they go to work on a already tired itachi. Med diff.