Konoha can beat Pain w/o Naruto

[6pathofpain]

I don't understand how some people are such die hard fan boys of some characters.

Answer me this one question: If Pein could defeat all of Konoha (including the ninja that were not there at the time) then why not have them there? Why have Gai and Haiashi gone and Shikamaru unable to fight?

Having those extra ninja there would free up the groups... You could have the Ino Shika Cho triox 2 fighting.

Kakashi+Guy alone could stand a decent chance at defeating Pein (they were confident they could take out Tobi's rinneigan powers) with knowledge.

Guy in 7th gate moves at least as fast, if not faster than Nartuo and Jiraya in SM, and his Taijutsu will be stronger and we saw how effective that was against Pein.

Deva path pain evaded hinata with easily an her hands i would say are only 2x's slower than neji's, an in taijutsu i dont see anyone beating neji, espeacilly with his eyes, so i think he could evade guy an rock lee. Plus NO ONE has a answer for the planetary devastion, the only hope is neji figuring out it's secret with his eye's if pain hasnt already takin him out. An even then almightly push is still an option, which can hit all of them at the same time an will most likely destroy them jus like it did kakashi, an shikamaru? really? i dont know why anyones even talkin about him, pains the one who broke his leg with the almighty push, even tho he didnt mean to break his leg, he still did it. shikamaru would get kill the same way an jus as easily as pa(the frog)

 

[PAIN162]

Hell no lol not happenin

 

[Bran1337]

Agreed except for the bolded part. He's wayyyyyy faster than SM Naruto and SM Jiraiya in his 7th Gate

I was just being generous for the sake of argument, I think he is much faster as well.

Honestly I think stuff like Pein's invasion of Konoha ruined the manga/anime.

It's retarded that 6 paths (1 person) can almost take out an entire village. The fact that it is even debatable that Pein can solo a WHOLE village seems ridiculous to me.

It makes me miss part 1 of Naruto. Back when the underdog stood a chance if they tried hard enough, or were clever enough.

I liked Naruto because it was Naruto not because it is Dragonball Z

 

[6pathofpain]

Agreed except for the bolded part. He's wayyyyyy faster than SM Naruto and SM Jiraiya in his 7th Gate

deffinitly faster, but i dont believe taijutsu works on the deva path at all, it's something to do with his eyes. At least thats what i believe they said. Just like what happened to kakashi when he tried to use the lightning blade an it kept showing pains eyes. An the only reason sage mode fought him with taijutsu for a bit was because pains powers werent active. I dont see any of them having a answer for the almighty push or planetary devastion.

 

[Green Hood]

You forget that they still had a few handful of powerful main character ninja in the village they still got smacked down.

 

[Bogard]

Deva path pain evaded hinata with easily an her hands i would say are only 2x's slower than neji's, an in taijutsu i dont see anyone beating neji, espeacilly with his eyes, so i think he could evade guy an rock lee. Plus NO ONE has a answer for the planetary devastion, the only hope is neji figuring out it's secret with his eye's if pain hasnt already takin him out. An even then almightly push is still an option, which can hit all of them at the same time an will most likely destroy them jus like it did kakashi, an shikamaru? really? i dont know why anyones even talkin about him, pains the one who broke his leg with the almighty push, even tho he didnt mean to break his leg, he still did it. shikamaru would get kill the same way an jus as easily as pa(the frog)

Not really sure about that because:
- We don't know what all konoha ninjas are capable of.
- Kakashi can maybe kamui it like he intented to against TBB

 

[Princeton]

Deva path solo's

 

[Bran1337]

Deva path pain evaded hinata with easily an her hands i would say are only 2x's slower than neji's, an in taijutsu i dont see anyone beating neji, espeacilly with his eyes, so i think he could evade guy an rock lee. Plus NO ONE has a answer for the planetary devastion, the only hope is neji figuring out it's secret with his eye's if pain hasnt already takin him out. An even then almightly push is still an option, which can hit all of them at the same time an will most likely destroy them jus like it did kakashi, an shikamaru? really? i dont know why anyones even talkin about him, pains the one who broke his leg with the almighty push, even tho he didnt mean to break his leg, he still did it. shikamaru would get kill the same way an jus as easily as pa(the frog)

In a 1v1 scenario Kakashi would have defeated the Deva path two different times by himself without interference.

 

[TheSupremeKing]

If Itachi can solo deva path, then why would Konoha lose?

 

[Bogard]

Deva path solo's

You mean the one who almost got killed by Kakashi??xd

 

[-Vegeta-]

I highly doubt it.

 

[Bran1337]

deffinitly faster, but i dont believe taijutsu works on the deva path at all, it's something to do with his eyes. At least thats what i believe they said. Just like what happened to kakashi when he tried to use the lightning blade an it kept showing pains eyes. An the only reason sage mode fought him with taijutsu for a bit was because pains powers werent active. I dont see any of them having a answer for the almighty push or planetary devastion.

Kakashi already answered alimighty push and almost defeated Deva path with a well timed and perfectly executed strategy.

The only variable not accounted for is planetary devastation which would be a double edged sword for a few reasons:

Collateral damage to other Pein paths.
Left vulnerable while performing it (he is stationary like he is powering up a spirit bomb)

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

If Itachi can solo deva path, then why would Konoha lose?

Some idiots actually think Konoha will lose.....

You mean the one who almost got killed by Kakashi??xd

xd

Kakashi already answered alimighty push and almost defeated Deva path with a well timed and perfectly executed strategy.

The only variable not accounted for is planetary devastation which would be a double edged sword for a few reasons:

Collateral damage to other Pein paths.
Left vulnerable while performing it (he is stationary like he is powering up a spirit bomb)

Lol perfect comparison and I agree

 

[6pathofpain]

Not really sure about that because:
- We don't know what all konoha ninjas are capable of.
- Kakashi can maybe kamui it like he intented to against TBB

I know what there ninjas were capable of at the time
An there 2 different kinds of attacks, i think almighty push would still work fine

 

[6pathofpain]

In a 1v1 scenario Kakashi would have defeated the Deva path two different times by himself without interference.

When?

 

[6pathofpain]

Kakashi already answered alimighty push and almost defeated Deva path with a well timed and perfectly executed strategy.

The only variable not accounted for is planetary devastation which would be a double edged sword for a few reasons:

Collateral damage to other Pein paths.
Left vulnerable while performing it (he is stationary like he is powering up a spirit bomb)

As we saw in the show he's still capable of using his powers while its suckin shit up, remeber when six tails was running at him to try to stop it an pain throw rocks at him or encaged him in rocks whatever u wanna call it. he can hold the other pains down

 

[6pathofpain]

You mean the one who almost got killed by Kakashi??xd

I think pain can win but im not idoit, deva's not soloing this 1, im not sure what that guys talkin about :sy:

 

[khaydz5]

Okay, so we all noticed that Guy and his team were out during the Pain invasion. Also, Shikamaru broke his leg. Kishi did this on purpose because he knew if Team Guy and Shikamaru were able to join the fight against Pain, the outcome would've been much different. Especially if it was Guy and Yamato there to help Kakashi, instead of Chouza. What do you think?
Let's say Kakashi has all the info on them, because you know his smart a** would figure them out quick
Also, Hinata's dad was away too. He's basically Neji but 2 times better so he would've been a factor

not really, pain's invasion without those shinobi you mention was overkill, adding them to the list will just make it a little bit harder for pain,but will have the same result.

I can picture, if all of konoha's ninjas where there and nagato finds it hard to search for naruto anymore, this would just happen sooner than what we saw:

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[6pathofpain]

ofC itachi can solo the SPOP + nagato

:sy: was this a joke?

 

[Bogard]

I know what there ninjas were capable of at the time
An there 2 different kinds of attacks, i think almighty push would still work fine

If you're talking about the one he used to destroy konoha, Tsunade is there. Forgotten?? With katsuyu she can protect the others the same way. And after that Deva loses his power. So he will get killed after much more easily.