Konoha can beat Pain w/o Naruto

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Okay, so we all noticed that Guy and his team were out during the Pain invasion. Also, Shikamaru broke his leg. Kishi did this on purpose because he knew if Team Guy and Shikamaru were able to join the fight against Pain, the outcome would've been much different. Especially if it was Guy and Yamato there to help Kakashi, instead of Chouza. What do you think?
Let's say Kakashi has all the info on them, because you know his smart a** would figure them out quick
Also, Hinata's dad was away too. He's basically Neji but 2 times better so he would've been a factor
 
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shikamaru would die instantly and guy would have no chance he would/did not have enough info at the time danzou could have helped but he was a punk and hid the whole time
 

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maybe. guy wouldve killed preta, animal, and reviving path. shikamaru, choji, chouza and kakashi could kill asura, and human path. they take deva with extreme difficulty.
 

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Kakashi is sure to tell Guy about Deva path. And you guys are forgetting Neji, Lee and ..............Tenten, yeah she's useless lol
 

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No they couldn't. Did u see what Deva Path did alone to Konaha?

Also, That the outcome of the Kakashi guy fight would of probaly came out the same, but with pain just bringing more of his guys to that fight.
 

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If they have infos like Naruto had, than yes i think that too. Just Kakashi and Gai(with maybe Tsunade) could beat them.
 

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No they couldn't. Did u see what Deva Path did alone to Konaha?

Also, That the outcome of the Kakashi guy fight would of probaly came out the same, but with pain just bringing more of his guys to that fight.

So? Houses and buildings can't defend themselves lol. I'm saying if Team Guy fought with Kakashi and Shikamaru was able to fight. And the other paths were too busy sucking souls, fighting Ebisu, Konan fighting Kiba and his team. So you're crazy if you think Deva Path can beat Kakashi, Guy, Neji, Lee, Tenten, Chouza and Choji at the same time. HELLLLL NO my friend
 

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Don't forget also that Hyuga Hiashi wasn't there too, and i think there must be a reason why kishimoto decided that.
 

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yeah but kakashi pretty much almost killed deva path but the robot pain jumped in the way if they had guy too take care of it then kakashi could kill deva with that strategy

Agreed. It was all plot no jutsu because of course it was Naruto's destiny to beat Pain:/
 

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Lol no dude it's easily avoidable with speed. Or other tactics created by Kakashi and Shikamaru so no

ROFL.. how is it easily avoidable, and tactics?? what sort of tactics which stop something that 1 hit a village
 

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ROFL.. how is it easily avoidable, and tactics?? what sort of tactics which stop something that 1 hit a village

That was a damm surprise for first time he used ST, no one was prepared for that. They can just run the opposite direction or Kakashi can just Kamui Deva Path while he's in his vulnerable preparation stance for ST
 

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That was a damm surprise for first time he used ST, no one was prepared for that. They can just run the opposite direction or Kakashi can just Kamui Deva Path while he's in his vulnerable preparation stance for ST

kakashi can "just" use it on deva path? it takes all his strength to use it than becomes extremely vulnerable, and kakashi has yet to 1 hit kill anyone with kamui, and rather unlikely to kill if deva path all the way in the sky, and i doubt they can run away from that, i mean did you see how much devastation it did?
 
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kakashi can "just" use it on deva path? it takes all his strength to use it than becomes extremely vulnerable, and i doubt they can run away from that, i mean did you see how much devastation it did?,
It was true before, but not at all currently. We've seen he could use kamui without collapsing against Sasuke. And in this war, he wanted to kamui 5times against 5TBB after that he used a lot of chakra before in previous days
 
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