Kishi made a plot-hole

[ultimate ninja king]

i've been watching and reading from the very start and i like everything thats going on except for the one and sometimes too weeks wait for a new episode

 

[Mr PLATINUM]

cloning is dividing your chakra evenly. so why wouldnt it make sense?? if you had watched last weeks anime, it elaborated on the whole shadow clone jutsu. the clones too have there own knowledge and even have dreams. so kishi has worked it out just fine and there is no plot hole. that was the point of the filler. this thread is a fail.

 

[FallingLeaf]

Looks like you're one of those petty beings who wants everything for free and made your way. If you don't like something that was given for free and STILL complain then you are nothing but scum. Don't like what I posted? NOT my problem. :flaw:

stfu:flaw:

 

[MinatoFLASH]

The naruto fighting raikage was a clone, he went sage-mode and the clone made a clone to form the rasengan...........WTF?!

This is what i hate about this arc, everything is rushed and if he would´ve taken his time then this wouldn´t have happened, he now want us to believe that naruto was just a clone all along then how did he make another clone?

A war in which no one dies from the good side, a war that could be use to bond people romantically, a war that is negleting the characters that rarely get screen-time, a war in which a blonde 16 year old kid takes on shinobi legends and beats them in such a silly way like beating the 3rd raiKAGE by making him penetrate himself.

I don´t like this war and i don´t like the way it has been going, i also don´t want this 6th coffin appearing and suddently kill all the good guys like naruto has been doing to the other side.

Kishi wasted plenty of opportunities with this war and the only thing i can do from this point is hope that it gets better.

I agree with u. I am not mad about Naruto being powerful but all the other things yes. He is rushing things.

 

[~MC117~]

Stop complaining, you're getting this manga for free, it's HIS manga and he can do whatever he wants, heck he can add a pokemon and make it kill everyone if he wants. You have been reading this manga and never had to pay a cent, if you don't like it, then STOP reading it.

Agreed!!

 

[~MC117~]

Why can't a shadow clone make a shadow clone? lol I think its possible since they can use rasengan and naruto's jutsu's etc so is not possible for them to make shadow clones? OK I kinda agree but I dont complain since Im reading this for free and all of you should be happy that you are reading this for free and not have to pay a cent for it, and this is kishimoto's manga he do the story the way he wants it not the way fans want it

 

[AfroSamurai]

Stop complaining, you're getting this manga for free, it's HIS manga and he can do whatever he wants, heck he can add a pokemon and make it kill everyone if he wants. You have been reading this manga and never had to pay a cent, if you don't like it, then STOP reading it.

I think that would be great and i want it to happen now

 

[BloodSeed]

plot-hole that i see is if that kabuto`s trump card and his last coffin is uchiha madara, ive seen the edo tensie of the 1st hokage and how he fights and i wasnt impressed when he fought the 3rd hokage..

 

[Decyder]

The clone is as strong as the amount of chakra the user puts into it, and since Naruto has basically infinite chakra now, all his clones can be as strong as the original and they can all go into sage/ninetail mode if needed to become stronger (pull more chakra from nature/ninetails.

 

[Zetsu Nara]

yeahh.. no asking fool!! just read this epic for free!!

 

[leezagboola]

i guess a clone could make a clone. It just depends on how much chakra you have. Since Naruto has heaps he could make haps of clones without getting too tired. unlike if say Kakashi did it he would like die from running out of chakra

 

[Ghostofthewind]

That sounds just .... weird

...lol

 

[Ghostofthewind]

plot-hole that i see is if that kabuto`s trump card and his last coffin is uchiha madara, ive seen the edo tensie of the 1st hokage and how he fights and i wasnt impressed when he fought the 3rd hokage..

That's not a plot-hole. It wouldn't create a paradox, it'd just be stupid.

 

[ajZero12]

i guess a clone could make a clone. It just depends on how much chakra you have. Since Naruto has heaps he could make haps of clones without getting too tired. unlike if say Kakashi did it he would like die from running out of chakra

true

 

[Minato namikaze2]

hard to tell xd

 

[Howard]

The naruto fighting raikage was a clone, he went sage-mode and the clone made a clone to form the rasengan...........WTF?!

This is what i hate about this arc, everything is rushed and if he would´ve taken his time then this wouldn´t have happened, he now want us to believe that naruto was just a clone all along then how did he make another clone?

A war in which no one dies from the good side, a war that could be use to bond people romantically, a war that is negleting the characters that rarely get screen-time, a war in which a blonde 16 year old kid takes on shinobi legends and beats them in such a silly way like beating the 3rd raiKAGE by making him penetrate himself.

I don´t like this war and i don´t like the way it has been going, i also don´t want this 6th coffin appearing and suddently kill all the good guys like naruto has been doing to the other side.

Kishi wasted plenty of opportunities with this war and the only thing i can do from this point is hope that it gets better.

xd you said penetrate well you could bitch but most people don't listen...

In that case then any random-ass chunnin can make shadow clones and make the clones make clones and they make clones and it goes on.
There is a reason it´s a jounin-level technique, naruto can only use it cuz of his chakra-level.

Konohamaru can and he is a Genin .-. if properly taught anyone can use it all it does is half your power and form it into a copy.... and why can't a clone use it all he would have to do is half his chakra and form it into a clone... O_O anyway back on topic.... Stfu I hate people who bitch first it was that there wasn't enough Naruto when it was everyone else fighting and now that it's all Naruto all the time people bitch about that... it gets annoying its simple you want to read the manga read it if not don't we can't change what Kishi writes hell if you feel that strongly write Kishi a strongly worded letter here I have one for you

Dear Kishimoto

Where do you get off? Part of a balance breakfast and delicious who do you think you are? By now you may have guessed I'm speaking ironically and have nothing but good things to say about what you do. Kisimoto do not change a thing..

Signed Howard dictated but not read....

 

[tacobelt]

well narutos clones have been doing jutsus for a while now so its no different that from this.

i actually wondered this, can you be so strong that your clone itself is able to stay active for years? and then i thought that would be a great movie!!! 200 years in the future and naruto is still there but with amnesea.. DUN DUN DUN..he goes on a quest to look for The Great Sages armor? idk...naruto completes it. then you find out it was a clone!! and the real him was the great sage.DUN DUN DUN & sakura was reincarnated into the cow they ate that night.

 

[FitzLT]

No one gives a crap about fodder ninja dying on the battlefield but we´re seeing kages getting their ass handed to them, i want people dying from the good guys, characters we know.
Naruto has trained to get into sage-mode easier, as for the comment about shadow clones, if a clones can make clones than everyone would be using it by now, there is a reason it´s a jounin-level technique.

Please stop making this argument. Just because Naruto took a jounin-level technique to another level does not mean that EVERYONE can, or will, suddenly be able to do it too. Naruto made a rasengan surrounded by smaller rasengan. I guarantee you that even Kakashi(the only other living rasengan user) is absolutely NOT capable of doing that...EVER. Shadow clone is STILL a jounin-level technique and not everyone can use it(even less can use it successfully like naruto). Sasuke has learned to shape-manipulate amaterasu. That doesn't mean EVERYONE else will suddenly start using amaterasu and shape-manipulating it. So please, if you are going to bother making an argument--PLEASE think about what you are saying first before you post.

The Kages have ONLY been beaten by 1)other Kages(some children/apprentices of the previous kages) or 2)Jinchuuriki-no one else. Even then, the good side actually had entire squadrons behind them for support--usually with at least a few upper echelon jounin present. The kages did some serious damage. You also have to remember that all the kages were being controlled by one person simultaneously. Most of the Kages even TOLD the good side what they were going to do and how to beat them. The kages personally WANTED the good side to win and detested being controlled like mere puppets. They were often fighting their own people. So it has not been a simple all-kages-were-pwned type of situation.

Now that I have spoken my peace. I wish to say one more thing...relax, the battle is far from over. We don't know what other surprises Madara has in store. Then you have Sasuke who's getting ready to make an appearance soon. You also have Kabuto who looks to be unleashing his ace-in-hole within a chapter or two. Like others have said--it is a free story. Just enjoy it.

 

[Furtuna]

The naruto fighting raikage was a clone, he went sage-mode and the clone made a clone to form the rasengan...........WTF?!

This is what i hate about this arc, everything is rushed and if he would´ve taken his time then this wouldn´t have happened, he now want us to believe that naruto was just a clone all along then how did he make another clone?

A war in which no one dies from the good side, a war that could be use to bond people romantically, a war that is negleting the characters that rarely get screen-time, a war in which a blonde 16 year old kid takes on shinobi legends and beats them in such a silly way like beating the 3rd raiKAGE by making him penetrate himself.

I don´t like this war and i don´t like the way it has been going, i also don´t want this 6th coffin appearing and suddently kill all the good guys like naruto has been doing to the other side.

Kishi wasted plenty of opportunities with this war and the only thing i can do from this point is hope that it gets better.

It's not that bad!
1. Naruto did his first thousands clone in, i guess, second chapter like this. ll clones had made the hand seal of kage bunshin no jutsu. So we know that Naruto's clone is different because he uses a forbidden jutsu and he can do it because of kayubi's chakra.
2. Before Madara summons his giant status, half of both army were dead. It means the good side dies too! When you see a shinobi cut in half, he is sure dead! The point is that the writer usually shows success points because down points are boring. There are some scenes of Zetsu killing humans yet.

WHAT BOTHERS ME IS that... Didn't Killer Bee tell Naruto that it's dangerous to use Kage bunshin while using kayyubi's massive chakra? That's why Naruto learned to use those chakra hands to make rassengan instead of making a clone!!! :shrug:

 

[spatha]

It's kinda funny.Real Naruto>Shawdow Clone>Shadow of a Shadow Clone>Shadow Clone of a Shadow Clone of a Shadow Clone

LMAO

well now that isnt necessarily true. While the clone that the starting clone made was probably weak and only used for the rasengan, it was explained wayyyyy back in the first series about his shadow clones. Naruto can divide his chakra up amongst the clones, so in reality he could put half his into another clone so its just as strong as him. I forget the battle but i remember that being explained in the first series as why he was able to fool the oponent because they couldnt sense which was real or a clone because they all had the same chakra level. And to the OP how is it a major plot hole? The shadow clone jutsu is a tech that naruto knows, therefore his clones know it because his shadow clone knowledge works both ways. train with clones= stronger naruto at the end, stronger naruto= better clones. So long as it had sufficient chakra it could feesebly do anything naruto himself can do. Also kishi isnt gonna just let everyone die out in the end as that would be even lamer than how its going in my opinion. Lastly, so what if naruto all of a sudden is kicking ass? Thats the typical formula for anime heros now. Underdog guy trains his ass off, gets better wins some loses some, trains even harder and unlocks some beastly potential and dominates. Plus you gotta remember just like most other anime heroes, as stupid as kishi writes naruto to be and act, when in battle he is a tactical genius.