Kishi intended sakura to be hated.

[Waltz]

Yeah, pretty much. Ino has matured alot beyond sakura and has long since let go of sasuke and constant crying. Actually she's played a major role in the war but on the other hand, Sakura just seems to have no mental progression what so ever and hasn't really changed throughout the series; in a sense isolated.

 

[Baguette]

That first paragraph makes no sense at all since i'm from an eastern country, not a western one, and i hate her to the core.

The fact that so many people in Chinese countries enjoy fried stinky tofu also makes no sense at all since I come from a Chinese country, and I hate it like most people in America do. Do you see the problem behind such reasoning?

If its usual with manga love triangles , it does'nt excuse it from scrutiny and criticism from the fans of the show like myself. I don't have enough time to argue the rest of that but i will say this:
Most of your post goes into pointlessly lengthy and annoying tangents that have nothing to do with this debate or the points i raised, so if you decide to respond to this kindly stay on topic to what we're arguing about in the first place>_>

You seem to be forgetting the fact that the original point of your thread was to argue that Kishimoto intended for Sakura to be hated. You used Sakura’s continued love for Sasuke as evidence of that claim, and in response I explained that what Kishimoto is doing is common within manga plotlines- that writers often draw out love triangles to the end of the series with or without justification for the sake of added plot tension and to avoid alienating fans of separate pairings. The fact that fans like yourself criticize such love triangles and a character involved within it does not equate to the author having intended for that character to be hated.

Its not a sweeping generalization. As a former smoker, YES to the mind of the chainsmoker, smoking is great. Emphasize on the 'to the mind of the smoker' bit. This is because the relative disadvantage is outweighed by the advantage of doing that specific activity, i.e smoking or w.e . To say that its a terrible activity, its a horrible thing to do and YET to continue to do it is not assuming responsibility for your actions. Its like saying that hey, don't blame the vandal that broke in yur house, raped your wife and stole your money cuz he later goes onto say 'its a terrible thing to do something like that'. Yeah, but fck that, if its so terrible than why did he choose to do it in the first place?? People are what they do, not what they claim things to be like. If someone does something of their own free will, they are responsible for those actions and whatever consequences they bring.Both the good and the bad. Full stop. Its does'nt matter even a fcking iota what those people claim to think about their own actions, what matters are the actions themselves. If someone is in an abusive relationship of their own free will, and continues to stay in it despite having the option of walking away, yes they do consider their significant other as great, but once again what's great to one person may not be great to another.

Having gone through a period of time during which I myself was addicted a specific depressant whose method of intake is similar to that of cigarettes (I think it can be inferred what this drug is), my views differ from yours here. YES to my brain smoking was great, because I had developed a psychological dependence on the drug, and had held an uncontrollable desire for it. At the same, however, I was painfully aware that my addiction was negatively affecting me and my life, and that my continued decision to use the drug was indeed something to be ashamed of. I could not control what I desired, but I knew that my desire itself was bad. Sakura cannot choose whom she holds feelings for, but she is painfully aware of the fact that that these feelings aren’t positive and are something to be ashamed of. Hence. Her. Depression.

Therein lies another problem with your point of view, specifically your comparison of a vandal saying that what he does is bad. Sakura doesn't simply claim to think of her feelings as bad in Ch. 540; she is shown to be actually thinking of it (note the mental depiction of Sasuke as being dark and evil). And yet, you act as if given the chance, Sakura would willingly run off to be with Sasuke regardless of whether she thinks of her feelings or him as bad.

Off topic: My reaction to your statement regarding people who cannot get themselves out of abusive relationships is best summed up as: "Are you f**king serious?"
Do you not take thought as to whether some people who are trapped within an abusive relationships are afraid of what their significant other would do if they tried to cut off relations? Or that even though they fear the other person, they do not want to be guilty of convicting such person to a prison sentence? Or that they are afraid of what they're peers would think of them if the issue were to be exposed? Having gotten involved with such dealings of abusive relationships in the past, the level of ignorance I see here is just...ugh.

So if Sakura claims to love sasuke, yes to her mind he is great. This 'great' need not be the kind of great interpreted by other people, but for her it is. So her depression has no other basis than her inability to attain what she desires.

From her perspective, Sakura has full faith that Naruto will bring Sasuke back; her dreams of Team 7 becoming whole once more have been fully reassured by Naruto, as she herself thinks on panel. To claim that she is depressed over her inability to fulfill her desire of having Sasuke would be to insinuate that she herself doubts in the inevitability of Sasuke being brought back.
And to summarize once again, Sakura's continued feelings for Sasuke are something she has no control over, much like how someone dependent on drug has no control over his or her psychological urge for it. Such sentiments do not immediately dissipate, regardless of the fact that drug user is aware of the negativity such drug brings to himself and feels shame for his addiction, and similarly regardless of the fact that Sakura is aware of the negativity of her feelings for this not so "great" guy and feels shame for loving him. Having feelings for someone does not equate to thinking of them as being great.

 

[Curteth]

If you don't mind me adding a thought:

The only thing Sakura has going for her is the possibility to become as useful as Tsunade, but minus Tsunade's Senju capability, which will handicap Sakura, and if you think Tsunade is "useless" already... Then there is no much hope for Sakura...

Make sense? xD