Kishi intended sakura to be hated.

[Melanee]

But Melanee, explain me what character development she went through, I just see a regressed character, she was confident on killing Sasuke and end everything even If Naruto hated her for it, but then when she was almost killed by him on two ocassions after failing to kill him the panel where she said ''I will believe in them'' happened, and know I don't see her having any objectives.

Well, Sakura started off as a helpless fangirl who seemed weak and girly. Instead of staying that way, she grew stronger. She could have sat and cried, but she approached Tsunade and made herself a worthwhile kunochi.

She would always think Sasuke was the best and insult Naruto, now she was able to glare at Sasuke and defend Naruto when they faced off.

Sakura was selfish, thinking only of herself, now she heals people, and willingly on more than one occasion sacrificed herself for others.

As for her feelings for Sasuke, it's not different than Ino thinking of him during the Juubi fight. They both centered their lives around him, and while Ino cried for him, Sakura decided to kill him. Yes, she lied to Naruto, but not to hurt him, to stop him for the suffering she was causing. She went about that wrong however.

Sakura is not after Sasuke the same way she was as a girl, she wants to save him and when she thought death was the way, she chose it. Both her and Naruto refuse to let him go though, not just her.

All and all, she is nothing like she once was, and though she hasn't had panel time lately, she has still developed immensely.

As I said before though, haters will not see those things and only fault her for her mistakes.

 

[l Forgotten l]

Well, Sakura started off as a helpless fangirl who seemed weak and girly. Instead of staying that way, she grew stronger. She could have sat and cried, but she approached Tsunade and made herself a worthwhile kunochi.

She would always think Sasuke was the best and insult Naruto, now she was able to glare at Sasuke and defend Naruto when they faced off.

Sakura was selfish, thinking only of herself, now she heals people, and willingly on more than one occasion sacrificed herself for others.

As for her feelings for Sasuke, it's not different than Ino thinking of him during the Juubi fight. They both centered their lives around him, and while Ino cried for him, Sakura decided to kill him. Yes, she lied to Naruto, but not to hurt him, to stop him for the suffering she was causing. She went about that wrong however.

Sakura is not after Sasuke the same way she was as a girl, she wants to save him and when she thought death was the way, she chose it. Both her and Naruto refuse to let him go though, not just her.

All and all, she is nothing like she once was, and though she hasn't had panel time lately, she has still developed immensely.

As I said before though, haters will not see those things and only fault her for her mistakes.

Yeah okay, its funny because when naruto faced sasuke, she actually thought about who she would save first :dead:
the guy who saved her from the guy who tried to kill her or the guy who tried to murder her like twice
Sakura needs to put on her big girl panties and REALIZE some things that she has been so blind to for like 624 chpts. Her and Naruto are just omg with sasuke thing and also REALIZE sasuke DOES NOT want to go back to konoha
Sakura needs some MAJOR character devolpment and not just 2 power ups that last for the whole entire series as, even hinata a side character has shown more devolpment then her and thats just said. Kishi needs to stop havng girls in his manga and let them be sides they cause too much drama and dont ever do anything besides scream names.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Well I like Sakura so Kishi failed then.

 

[Baguette]

Yeah okay, its funny because when naruto faced sasuke, she actually thought about who she would save first :dead:
the guy who saved her from the guy who tried to kill her or the guy who tried to murder her like twice
Sakura needs to put on her big girl panties and REALIZE some things that she has been so blind to for like 624 chpts. Her and Naruto are just omg with sasuke thing and also REALIZE sasuke DOES NOT want to go back to konoha
Sakura needs some MAJOR character devolpment and not just 2 power ups that last for the whole entire series as, even hinata a side character has shown more devolpment then her and thats just said. Kishi needs to stop havng girls in his manga and let them be sides they cause too much drama and dont ever do anything besides scream names.

You are aware that the scene where she wonder's who to save first is filler and only occurs in the anime, right?
And as a sidenote regarding what you said in the past about Hinata getting a hit on the Deva Path. Are you aware that that was also filler and occurs only in the anime?

 

[NarutoKage2]

No offense, but now you're just asserting your own speculative opinion with complete disregard for the context of the panels themselves.
Her reaction of depression came as a direct result of hearing the guy say "He must be a really great guy if you're in love with him." If one were to employ any small amount of reading comprehension, it would not be difficult at all to infer the meaning here.

Please dont use your failure to understand what im saying, as an excuse to justify your point, which has nothing to do with my argument.
What im saying is basically that her character would develop further if she were to get over her feelings for sasuke, if that were to happen she wouldnt get depressed at his memory, she would cease to gaf about him. That is NOT the case , shes depressed because she has feelings for him. Whether or not sasuke is a great guy or a villain would have no meaning if she did not love him. If you dont understand this and think of making a stupid reply, dont.

 

[Melanee]

Yeah okay, its funny because when naruto faced sasuke, she actually thought about who she would save first :dead:
the guy who saved her from the guy who tried to kill her or the guy who tried to murder her like twice
Sakura needs to put on her big girl panties and REALIZE some things that she has been so blind to for like 624 chpts. Her and Naruto are just omg with sasuke thing and also REALIZE sasuke DOES NOT want to go back to konoha
Sakura needs some MAJOR character devolpment and not just 2 power ups that last for the whole entire series as, even hinata a side character has shown more devolpment then her and thats just said. Kishi needs to stop havng girls in his manga and let them be sides they cause too much drama and dont ever do anything besides scream names.

I think it's fair Hinata finally got her chance to shine, it seems Neji's death was a set up for her development. I am still bitter about that though, but I like Hinata as well as Neji, so it's a bittersweet development. lol

Naruto is actually holding on more than Sakura. Both of them can't let Sasuke go and that's why they keep second guessing themselves or by now things would have developed very differently.

I have a feeling Sakura's development will connect with Tsunade's fate, but that's a ways off yet.

 

[l Forgotten l]

You are aware that the scene where she wonder's who to save first is filler and only occurs in the anime, right?
And as a sidenote regarding what you said in the past about Hinata getting a hit on the Deva Path. Are you aware that that was also filler and occurs only in the anime?

Yup, and i am now a fan of none of the female characters, because i am growing tired of the bs and kishi cant write female characters for crap XD.

 

[l Forgotten l]

I think it's fair Hinata finally got her chance to shine, it seems Neji's death was a set up for her development. I am still bitter about that though, but I like Hinata as well as Neji, so it's a bittersweet development. lol

Naruto is actually holding on more than Sakura. Both of them can't let Sasuke go and that's why they keep second guessing themselves or by now things would have developed very differently.

I have a feeling Sakura's development will connect with Tsunade's fate, but that's a ways off yet.

Well all i have to say is kishi needs to fix sakura's issue quick.

 

[Sot viing hun]

Well, Sakura started off as a helpless fangirl who seemed weak and girly. Instead of staying that way, she grew stronger. She could have sat and cried, but she approached Tsunade and made herself a worthwhile kunochi.

She would always think Sasuke was the best and insult Naruto, now she was able to glare at Sasuke and defend Naruto when they faced off.

Sakura was selfish, thinking only of herself, now she heals people, and willingly on more than one occasion sacrificed herself for others.

As for her feelings for Sasuke, it's not different than Ino thinking of him during the Juubi fight. They both centered their lives around him, and while Ino cried for him, Sakura decided to kill him. Yes, she lied to Naruto, but not to hurt him, to stop him for the suffering she was causing. She went about that wrong however.

Sakura is not after Sasuke the same way she was as a girl, she wants to save him and when she thought death was the way, she chose it. Both her and Naruto refuse to let him go though, not just her.

All and all, she is nothing like she once was, and though she hasn't had panel time lately, she has still developed immensely.

As I said before though, haters will not see those things and only fault her for her mistakes.

Oh welp, maybe it's me that expected too much of Sakura in early part 2, she's been sidelined a lot and has no plot relevance as of now, I do dislike her, you can label me as a hater too, but I try to look at her good aspects, It's just that I find it difficult to see how such minor details can improve my view about her as a character, I expected her to surpass Tsunade, to be more important to the plot, but nothing happened, she just literally regressed when she stopped trying to do something for Sasuke.

Btw, I never said that she lied to hurt Naruto, but she was willing to have him hate her just for the sake of killing Sasuke.

 

[Melanee]

Well all i have to say is kishi needs to fix sakura's issue quick.

I agree and to be honest, even though we saw a small bit with Ino, none of the females feel truly developed to me. They are all filled with plot holes and inconsistency.

Oh welp, maybe it's me that expected too much of Sakura in early part 2, she's been sidelined a lot and has no plot relevance as of now, I do dislike her, you can label me as a hater too, but I try to look at her good aspects, It's just that I find it difficult to see how such minor details can improve my view about her as a character, I expected her to surpass Tsunade, to be more important to the plot, but nothing happened, she just literally regressed when she stopped trying to do something for Sasuke.

Btw, I never said that she lied to hurt Naruto, but she was willing to have him hate her just for the sake of killing Sasuke.

It seems that Tsunade is the key. She will probably pass her after she's gone. I agree, I expected more in part 2 and she was great in the Kazekage arc and when Pain attacked.

Also, I don't label anyone a hater if they find good points. They have their reasons for disliking her and that's fine. Haters imo are those who bash her just for being her.

Ah, well, for me, people bash me for it, but I am like her and relate to her. I have been through similar things and made mistakes like that, and blinded myself with a guy who treated me like crap. If I wasn't that way, who knows how I might have viewed her? It's personal to me I guess. lol

Oh I never said you did, that's just backup when people going on using it as a reason for hating her. It's quite repetitive in debates.

 

[Baguette]

Please dont use your failure to understand what im saying, as an excuse to justify your point, which has nothing to do with my argument.
What im saying is basically that her character would develop further if she were to get over her feelings for sasuke, if that were to happen she wouldnt get depressed at his memory, she would cease to gaf about him. That is NOT the case , shes depressed because she has feelings for him. Whether or not sasuke is a great guy or a villain would have no meaning if she did not love him. If you dont understand this and think of making a stupid reply, dont.

Posts like these are quite amusing. There is no need to get so angry when I point out the logical fallacies within your argument.
There is also no need to try and insinuate that I would be stupid if I were to reply. Using such tactics to discourage further responses from an opposing side is unfortunately ineffective.
I also like how you changed the wording of your opinion in response to my pointing out the flaws in your previous statement. And as to the rest of your post, it seems that you have completely forgotten about my original post addressing that very topic. Lol

 

[uncle sam]

Nice thread..you forgot to include the part where she drugs k11 and lies to naruto about loving him

 

[Melanee]

Nice thread..you forgot to include the part where she drugs k11 and lies to naruto about loving him

She protected everyone, knowing they would try to stop her and saved their lives, and lied to Naruto so he would stop suffering, but went about it the wrong way, as most of us females tend to do when dealing with those moments.

 

[uncle sam]

She protected everyone, knowing they would try to stop her and saved their lives, and lied to Naruto so he would stop suffering, but went about it the wrong way, as most of us females tend to do when dealing with those moments.

Defending sakura will turn your bar red so fast..lol jk

I <3 sakura

 

[NarutoKage2]

She protected everyone, knowing they would try to stop her and saved their lives, and lied to Naruto so he would stop suffering, but went about it the wrong way, as most of us females tend to do when dealing with those moments.[/QUOTE

I dont blame sakura for any of that, its her inability to act like a heroine thats annoying. A heroine should be able to fight when she resolves it, i.e against sasuke. If she cant do it, than being a heroine she should know her limits.

 

[CrimsonFire]

The more i read into it, the more i realize that the character of sakura was intended as an object of scorn for readers. First up:
Its true that she aided chiyo brilliantly against sasori and showed medic skills healing kankuro. I thought back then that her character would be a strong one from that point on. Everything thats happened since paints her in a negative, unlikable light.

Character development can be sketchy for certain chars, over done for others and altogether ignored in the case of some. Sakura falls into the last category. Simply take a look at the thoroughly detailed background stories we get for chars like kabuto, madara, hashirama, sasuke and itachi. Kishi takes us into their past, carefully showing events that shaped their current behaviour and how one thing led to another until we're left empathising with that character : we may not agree with what they did/are doing, but we understand them and their reasons for taking the decisions that they did.

For example, if we had been given a flashback of sakuras childhood experiences, perhaps with her family and how, idk how her parents were overly zealous with her, so it led her to like the contrast that the aloof personality of sasuke afforded. Something along those lines to explain and give reason to her love for sasuke on some level. Because to continue to obssess over someone who actively wants to kill you deserves an explanation or it makes the character look illogical if not downright stupid. Its only natural to dislike her if no explanation is given. It then suggests that shes acting on mere infatuation, and hardly anyone likes someone like that plus its not realistic for a person to not get over something like that after years have passed and the other person loathes you.

And strength wise, we've never been shown her fighting an opponent where she had a flashback from her childhood where she faced a similar dilemna and fought through it. Like sasukes flashback of hunting a boar with itachi when he was small. She could have been given a team up with say, ino where they fight one of oros henchmen, or a jounin of some village and have a chuldhood flashback. Kishi loves flashbacks, and not giving a character with unusual behaviour(unending love for sasuke) one leaves that negative behaviour unexplained, and that character disliked.

This is exactly why I do not like Sakura and it is pretty sad since Sakura is the main female lead. Kishi should not have given Sakura a normal background type.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I think it's just because Kishimoto sensei lacks the skills to pullout a decent female heroine.

 

[Baguette]

I think it's just because Kishimoto sensei lacks the skills to pullout a decent female heroine.

Basically sums it up.

 

[l Forgotten l]

Ok i know this is really off topic so i searched your name baguette, because i heard in rap song, the rapper was like
" i woke up in my new baguette" and i was like ohhh he must like those cars let me go google it so i google it and its a bread. :dead:

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XD

 

[Baguette]

Ok i know this is really off topic so i searched your name baguette, because i heard in rap song, the rapper was like
" i woke up in my new baguette" and i was like ohhh he must like those cars let me go google it so i google it and its a bread. :dead:

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XD

Totally off topic: I think you may be confusing Baguette with Bugatti, which is indeed a line of sports cars.
But yes, my name does come from the bread. Lol