Kishi F-ed up on the whole EMS crap!

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Kishi F-ed up on the whole EMS crap!

To get EMS, you gotta be Indra's reincarnation and have a brother to take his eyes. SO what if Madara or Sasuke didn't have a brother? How would they reach their full potential?


This is never stated nor implied.

So,yeah,but no..........................................
 

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That's half true. Only one senju is God level, and he isn't even god level any more. Sasuke Madara, and Obito are all uchiha and all of them could solo the entire senju clan at their strongest.

are u insane?

They alllllll needed help to get to where they are.

Madara needed Hashis juicy flesh for rinnegan and the juubi for Jj

Obito needed Hashi cells, a zetsu body and a rinnegan to lose to a tired Kakashi

Sasuke needed his brothers eyes and hagaromo chakra for a ems and a rinnegan just to wander around a desert during the Kaguya fight
 
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are u insane?

They alllllll needed help to get to where they are.

Madara needed Hashis juicy flesh for rinnegan and the juubi for Jj

Obito needed Hashi cells, a zetsu body and a rinnegan to lose to a tired Kakashi

Sasuke needed his brothers eyes and hagaromo chakra for a ems and a rinnegan just wander around a desert during the Kaguya fight

Still doesn't change the fact that it is their strongest form and the wreck senju clan.
 

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No such thing as reincarnation back then. It would have been better if the Rinnegan was the Sage's but Madara found it and used it and then gave it to Nagato.
 

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So we had more than 2 EMS uchihas in NV? shit where these mofos at?


It doesn't matter if there aren't 30 different EMS users, the episode you said us to watch states this ->

"Parents and siblings killed each other in order to possess eternal ocular powers."

This is what the plot dictates, it doesn't have to be a Indra transmigrant to have his eyes taken by a brother in order to awaken EMS, so Madara and Sasuke would eventually awaken them if Kishi wanted.
 

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Pure uchiha. No other power son.

Natural energy is other power. Just being the transmigrant of Ashura is other power. Hashirama gots other power. Exclude him and those uchiha I menationed and you have Itachi and Shisui vs Tobirama and Tsunade.
 

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Still doesn't change the fact that it is their strongest form and the wreck senju clan.
How powerful would Hashirama be if he had EMS/Rinnegan? 'Casue if the shoe was on the other foot, Hashirama would have been in Madara's shoes.
 

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The concept of EMS is flawed in the beginning. MS. Techniques main flaw is that they exchange something in return, ie eye sight or a cool down with it. However EMS just sheets on this notion of equal exchange and adds a luck factor for the exchange is moot.
 

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It doesn't matter if there aren't 30 different EMS users, the episode you said us to watch states this ->

"Parents and siblings killed each other in order to possess eternal ocular powers."

This is what the plot dictates, it doesn't have to be a Indra transmigrant to have his eyes taken by a brother in order to awaken EMS, so Madara and Sasuke would eventually awaken them if Kishi wanted.

SO what is the different between Indra transmigrant and another EMS Uchiha? What separate them? You just opened up a gate to whole new shit load of questions now. lol
 
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SO what is the different between Indra transmigrant and another EMS Uchiha? What separate them? You just opened up a gate to whole new shit load of questions now. lol

I think the difference between them is that Indra's Reincarnations will be born with his Chakra and abnormally stronger and skilled than regular Uchiha's like Itachi
 

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SO what is the different between Indra transmigrant and another EMS Uchiha? What separate them? You just opened up a gate to whole new shit load of questions now. lol
Kishi pulled things out of his rear the last year of the Manga. Just don't overthink it.
 

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SO what is the different between Indra transmigrant and another EMS Uchiha? What separate them? You just opened up a gate to whole new shit load of questions now. lol

Where is it state that the Uchiha getting his eyes extracted needs to be a transmigrant ? You are seeing a coincidence when we only have an explanation that reaches a certain degree.
 

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I think the difference between them is that Indra's Reincarnations will be born with his Chakra and abnormally stronger and skilled than regular Uchiha's like Itachi

makes sense but wasn't shisui more skilled than itachi?

Kishi pulled things out of his rear the last year of the Manga. Just don't overthink it.

Very true.
 

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Where is it state that the Uchiha getting his eyes extracted needs to be a transmigrant ? You are seeing a coincidence when we only have an explanation that reaches a certain degree.

So what is the different between a transmigrant uchiha and a EMS uchiha? So far i don't see anything that another EMS uchiha can't do that madara and Sasuke can do.
 

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At the end of the day, you gotta have a brother to get the EMS. There is no requirement for senji to reach their full potential. That's where Kishi f-ed up on.

Yet only one Senju has been shown to reach him full potential
 

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yeah but his potential pales in comparison to Sasuke and Madara's

Indra had that battle tactics mindset. That mindset seem to have left Sasuke after he got the MS.
 
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