Kishi F-ed up on the whole EMS crap!

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Yeah it was never said they have to be indra's reincarnation that is just fanfic until proven and irrelevant.
Fodder uchiha don't deserve EMS and non-fodder uchiha don't need EMS ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

The real question do you need EMS to get rinnegan. Think about we used to think you need EMS to use PS, but now it seems all you need is MS and a lot of chakra. Hogo said the only requirements is to be have the chakra of both transmigrants.

lol Only the naruto fans was trying to say EMS = PS. I was there for nearly every arguments of that.
 

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I guess Indra will only reincarnate in someone who has a brother. It could be also possible that Indra's actual chakra is divided between both brothers and implanting brother's eyes result in combination of their chakra which in turn results in the emergence of Indra's actual chakra, that's why reincarnation's EMS is the same as Indra's MS.
 

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Only blood brothers could make it work...but not all Uchiha had siblings so many failed in their attempt at new light because they were cousins or not blood related directly.
 

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I guess Indra will only reincarnate in someone who has a brother. It could be also possible that Indra's actual chakra is divided into both brothers and combining their chakra results in Indra's actual chakra, that's why reincarnation's EMS is the same as Indra's MS.

Makes sense.
 

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At the end of the day, you gotta have a brother to get the EMS. There is no requirement for senji to reach their full potential. That's where Kishi f-ed up on.

True. A senju's power is already unbelievably high. They were the strongest clan for a reason. An EMS Madara has never defeated Hashirama.

As far as raw power is concerned, ems Madara might be somewhere along the lines as Tobirama. That's how great the senju are
 

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At the end of the day, you gotta have a brother to get the EMS. There is no requirement for senji to reach their full potential. That's where Kishi f-ed up on.

That's half true. Only one senju is God level, and he isn't even god level any more. Sasuke Madara, and Obito are all uchiha and all of them could solo the entire senju clan at their strongest.
 

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SO you're telling me that it is possible for non-reincarnation Uchiha to become as powerful as EMS Sasuke or ems Madara?

As powerful? Doubtful. Even though I personally believe Itachi had more potential than anybody else in the manga and had to be killed off by aids but that's just me.

Madara was gifted for a reason: he was a reincarnate
 

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That's half true. Only one senju is God level, and he isn't even god level any more. Sasuke Madara, and Obito are all uchiha and all of them could solo the entire senju clan at their strongest.

Man. Obito couldn't even solo kakashi. But i got you.
 

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Although...for Indra it was never stated that he went blind from using his eye power. The clan degenerated after generations of failure to ascend.... until Madara.
 

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lol Only the naruto fans was trying to say EMS = PS. I was there for nearly every arguments of that.

Oh I nevered had that level of foresight, however I do remember myself arguing against many people that PS didn't need Rinnegan to use:lmao: EMS is understandable but there people who thought you can't use PS without Rinnegan
 

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Man. Obito couldn't even solo kakashi. But i got you.

Juubi Jinchuriki Obito wrecks Kakashi.

Also that not fair. Kakashi had a counter to his OPness most people don't. On top of that Obito without Juubi at his strongest is Dual Mangekyo rikudo chakra Obito.
 
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Only Works with Indra's Reincarnations...simply gaining another clan members eyes don't grant you EMS

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