[VS] Kisame & Zabuza vs Kakuzu & Hidan

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Deadai

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If you can't distinguish the difference between the amount of water between the two i'm done debating with you. Kakashis suiton served it's purpose in defending him from Kakuzus attack, and the difference between the water mass of Kakashis suiton and water dome is enourmoss.

I'll say it again, by the time Kakuzu and Hidan realize that the water dome moves with them and decide to swim oposit directions; Hidan will be shark food and Kakuzu who needs to breath will be losing oxygen as well chakra being drained from him and is defenseless against GSB. GG, Kisame potentially solos.
Oh my, with such a statement I wonder how that will effect the situation.
 

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Oh my, with such a statement I wonder how that will effect the situation.
LOL dude, I really must of turned you into a Kisame fan huh? Changed your avatar and everything :cool:

But yeah... I mean, Kisame is a terrible matchup for Hidan. He gets foderrized, so it's basically just Kisame Vs Kakuzu, Zabuza isn't really needed.
 

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Durability? What durability does Hidan have, exactly? His head got cut by Asuma.



No, it won't. It gets absorbed and smashes Kakuzu. If Hidan tries to fight it off too, he also gets drowned.



Zabuza has a 4 in speed, just like Kakuzu. Hidan has a 3.5

Anyone would get his head cut off by a fuuton enhanced blade, even Oro, do you even know what durability is all about?
He tanked one the most powerful fuuton jutsu at point blank range then stood on his own two feet like it was nothing.


Doton would negate that effect and reduce the damage since its stronger than Suiton, it might get absorbed but Kakuzu will be unimpaired

Hidan can drown? Since when? He's immortal, remember? He can even live after getting decapitated, remember? Do you read the manga at all?

Yet Hidan pressured Kakashi with 4.5 in speed and the sharingan in kenjutsu, and one shoted Asuma with 4.5 in speed and Taijutsu, Zabuza still gets destroyed, you need to learn how to use the databook stats properly.
 
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Ohh I knew that but it's illogical to think he would use the tendril arms right off the bat he'd probably sit back and count money while hidan gets slaughtered by two ninja swordsman, I mean Kakuzu has the habit of underestimating his opponents and just not giving a shit about Hidan.
This is an imaginary match up, thus all jutsu at any point in this debate is relevant. Since this fight is never going to happen, it's up to the debaters to use the presented jutsu to try and make it happen. Kakuzu using earth grudge fear at the beginning of the battle is definitely relevant.

Beside, since when is this considered as the ultimate technique you can only use once per fight? It's totally logical for him to use it, what would be illogical was if he didn't, give me one reason why it would be illogical to use it, you don't have any.

You're biased, it's just too obvious. Kakuzu is a serious fighter and he is highly intelligent unlike Kisame and Zabuza who are both dumb nuts. They will both get murdered by the immortal duos.
 
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Please everyone look at this thread .. it accuratly makes points about how kakuzu beats kisame..

Credit goes to negative knight

P.S dont say hes fanboying because actually his favorite akatsuki is kisame

Read that and then say things like " kisame solos , or kakuzu and kisame arnt in same league"
 

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LOL dude, I really must of turned you into a Kisame fan huh? Changed your avatar and everything :cool:

But yeah... I mean, Kisame is a terrible matchup for Hidan. He gets foderrized, so it's basically just Kisame Vs Kakuzu, Zabuza isn't really needed.
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Please everyone look at this thread .. it accuratly makes points about how kakuzu beats kisame..

Credit goes to negative knight

P.S dont say hes fanboying because actually his favorite akatsuki is kisame

Read that and then say things like " kisame solos , or kakuzu and kisame arnt in same league"
Wellllllllllllllll, if it was made my NegitiveKnight then it must be true, That man is a legend among NB debater's.
 

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This is an imaginary match up, thus all jutsu at any point in this debate is relevant. Since this fight is never going to happen, it's up to the debaters to use the presented jutsu to try and make it happen. Kakuzu using earth grudge fear at the beginning of the battle is definitely relevant.

Beside, since when is this considered as the ultimate technique you can only use once per fight? It's totally logical for him to use it, what would be illogical was if he didn't, give me one reason why it would be illogical to use it, you don't have any.

You're biased, it's just too obvious. Kakuzu is a serious fighter and he is highly intelligent unlike Kisame and Zabuza who are both dumb nuts. They will both get murdered by the immortal duos.
No I know Kakuzu is strong, probably the strongest fighter of the 4 but Hidans a dumbass, and that's why he got killed by Shikamaru, he would be the first one to go, and I doubt Kakuzu could face 2 ninja swordsman.
 

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No I know Kakuzu is strong, probably the strongest fighter of the 4 but Hidans a dumbass, and that's why he got killed by Shikamaru, he would be the first one to go, and I doubt Kakuzu could face 2 ninja swordsman.
You cant say hes a dumbass and then compare him to shikamaru lol thats just not how it works

Wellllllllllllllll, if it was made my NegitiveKnight then it must be true, That man is a legend among NB debater's.
Unless thats sarcasm yaa he really is and that thread is amazing
 

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No I know Kakuzu is strong, probably the strongest fighter of the 4 but Hidans a dumbass, and that's why he got killed by Shikamaru, he would be the first one to go, and I doubt Kakuzu could face 2 ninja swordsman.
Hidan is just as smart as Zabuza for your information, so I guess Zabuza is a dumbass too then? Or are you being biased again? and Kisame is hardly smarter than him, look up the databook.
Shikamaru is one of the most intelligent character in the series and he couldn't have beaten him without extreme prep time and intel, your argument is invalid.
Kisame and Zabuza are a team of dumb nuts I tell you. They won't be able to hold their own against 2 immortal guys, just no.
 
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Please everyone look at this thread .. it accuratly makes points about how kakuzu beats kisame..

Credit goes to negative knight

P.S dont say hes fanboying because actually his favorite akatsuki is kisame

Read that and then say things like " kisame solos , or kakuzu and kisame arnt in same league"
Yes, I remember reading that thread. If you read his opening paragraph, it says it all.

This is a thread highlighting the strength of Kakuzu, his overlooked abilities and essentially it has no bias but a purpose, and is therefore showing why either side could win. Simply you just ignore the title as I wrote it that way for people to recognize it was one of my threads, however the thread will concentrate more on the underdog in this battle to explain why this is a fair match up.
"Showing why either side could win, and will be concentrating more on the underdog to explain why this is a fair match up." He is simply stating how Kakuzu can defeat Kisame, that doesn't necessarily mean Kakuzu defeats Kisame 10/10 times.

@ Bold - He pretty much said that Kakuzu is inferior to Kisame by calling him the "underdog"
 

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Yes, I remember reading that thread. If you read his opening paragraph, it says it all.



"Showing why either side could win, and will be concentrating more on the underdog to explain why this is a fair match up." He is simply stating how Kakuzu can defeat Kisame, that doesn't necessarily mean Kakuzu defeats Kisame 10/10 times.

@ Bold - He pretty much said that Kakuzu is inferior to Kisame by calling him the "underdog"
He uses underdog as a way to say Not Favored To win By the majority .... Underdogs win the battle/Game/ whatever you use the term plenty of times .hell the whole series naruto is an underdog.. In fact some could argue that underdogs win most of the time simply because they ARE the underdog

I said this in my first post kakuzu and kisame are about equal ... The slightest thing changes the outcome..However i usually give it to kakuzu due to he has the intelligence factor
 

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He uses underdog as a way to say Not Favored To win By the majority .... Underdogs win the battle/Game/ whatever you use the term plenty of times .hell the whole series naruto is an underdog.. In fact some could argue that underdogs win most of the time simply because they ARE the underdog

I said this in my first post kakuzu and kisame are about equal ... The slightest thing changes the outcome..However i usually give it to kakuzu due to he has the intelligence factor
Underdog, by definition, means
a person who is expected to lose in a contest or conflict.
That's all I have to say in that regard.

I pretty much said this also, there are a lot of different factors that can take place that decides the victor, but I give it to Kisame simply because Kakuzu doesn't have a real liable counter to a lot of his techniques as proven in our little debate.
 

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Underdog, by definition, means That's all I have to say in that regard.

I pretty much said this also, there are a lot of different factors that can take place that decides the victor, but I give it to Kisame simply because Kakuzu doesn't have a real liable counter to a lot of his techniques as proven in our little debate.
ahh but negative Night Provide Fairly Solid Counters??

And Lets Just Call It a 51/49 Match Up either way
 
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