Kisame vs Orochimaru

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"slithering snake mode" it's hard to take you seriously, you know that? What with your avatar and sig showing your fanboyism and all. Do you know how physics work? Apparently not. A snake is not faster than a fish underwater. This is a fact, due mainly because snakes have no fins. So you mean to tell me that Orochimaru is faster than Kisame (a water master) underwater when Kisame is fuses into a FISH?! LOL! Ok there, captain fanboy. And Orochimaru can't absorb any chakra with just a touch. He only absorbed HIS chakra back from Kabuto. But good job trying to give him new abilities to try to defend your fanboy arguments. Sure, he has better regenerative skill, but that doesn't matter when he can't breathe underwater like Kisame can. I'm going to laugh so hard if you say that Orochimaru can breathe underwater. He cannot and you have no proof of that claim.

Kisame solos him and Manda.

Lel. So what he took only his own chakra back? If he couldn't drain chakra he couldn't have sucked his own either way.
And lel at u bringing up physics as an argument in manga discussion. As far as I'm concerned physics cannot explain someone merging with a living sword. Also, manga clearly showed how fast snakes can be underwater and even if Kisame was a little bit faster, it doesn't mean Orochimaru would lose due to speed issues.
 

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And was also Genetically altered :| And wasn't he made of a liquid like substance anyways?

Wow Orochimaru is genetically altered as well -.- What a stupid argument. And no, Manda 2 wasn't made of liquid.
 
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Also, manga clearly showed how fast snakes can be underwater and even if Kisame was a little bit faster, it doesn't mean Orochimaru would lose due to speed issues.

I don't care if it showed 1 snake moving fast underwater. That doesn't mean Orochimaru has that feat. Are you stupid or something? That's like me saying, Oh, Michael Jordan won 6 championships and was the best basketball player ever, so since he's a human like me, that must make me the best basketball player ever also! Orochimaru doesn't have that feat, deal with it, fanboy.

Kisame wins.
 

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I don't care if it showed 1 snake moving fast underwater. That doesn't mean Orochimaru has that feat. Are you stupid or something? That's like me saying, Oh, Michael Jordan won 6 championships and was the best basketball player ever, so since he's a human like me, that must make me the best basketball player ever also! Orochimaru doesn't have that feat, deal with it, fanboy.

Kisame wins.

I wonder who's alt you are. I'm done talking to you, raging kid.
 

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Snakes are much slower than sharks underwater. If Kisame releases a herd, there won't be much left of Orochimaru.​
 

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This thread is finished. I dub Kisame the winner and anyone who wants to debate with me further will get wrecked.

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Orochimaru wins.Those who say oro lose,are severely underestimating oro.The reason oro struggled against 4-tails naruto is he had his hands sealed.But Kisame will be a good match for Oro.That's sure.Even kisame stated Jiraiya is stronger than him and 7-shinobi gatana's name is petty before him.And we know oro is as strong as jiraiya.So,we know Orochimaru wins.
 

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Orochimaru wins.Those who say oro lose,are severely underestimating oro.The reason oro struggled against 4-tails naruto is he had his hands sealed.But Kisame will be a good match for Oro.That's sure.Even kisame stated Jiraiya is stronger than him and 7-shinobi gatana's name is petty before him.And we know oro is as strong as jiraiya.So,we know Orochimaru wins.

ABC logic doesn't work. Just because Jiraiya beats Kisame doesn't mean Orochimaru does.
 

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Because he has no legs :| So how do you expect him to float? I doubt his weight is altered to the fact, lml, Snakes swim underwater mainly due to there movements and weight, which Oro can't do with arms

Snakes have no legs, yet Andaconda's are pretty agile and fast.
 
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lelerskates,you say it an ABC logic?!All point out the Kisame's water dome technique.Well,oro just killed 4-5 ANBU members in just a flash.He learned many justus,which he said himself.So,you don't know the strength of Oro if his hands are'nt sealed.You also don't know the jutsus he possessed.Logic is what matters.And the thread starter blocked edo,which the most powerful justu.Still,Oro wins.He is a real genius,who is acknowledged even by Sasuke.
 

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Orochimaru takes this with medium difficulty, but I wonder if chakra absorbing is countered by him absorbing the chakra that he stole...confusing. v_v
 
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lelerskates,if you say that as an ABC logic,then,you mean Kishi is dumb?Still,Oro took other sannins and don't mention Kabuto,since he equals Naruto and Shizune on this side.He took tsunade's punch more than 10 times,yet he didn't even fell down.So Oro wins,but this is a really good match.
 

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Snakes have no legs, yet Andaconda's are pretty agile and fast.

On land :| And actually Anaconda's are not hence why they wait for their prey and use constriction for their means of killing,

Totally different ballgame on water, theres a reason a specific groups of snakes are titled "water snakes"
 

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On land :| And actually Anaconda's are not hence why they wait for their prey and use constriction for their means of killing,

Totally different ballgame on water, theres a reason a specific groups of snakes are titled "water snakes"
Kisame uses GW sharks which can swim up to 25-35mph while Andaconda's swim up to 30km/h, they're not slow.
 

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"Manda can solo"

You've gotta be ****ing kidding me.

I'm serious. Manda II can breath underwater, so there's reason to believe Manda can too. Shark bites aren't doing sh*t to someone of Manda's size. It doesn't matter if Kisame absorbs all of Manda's chakra, the summon is not a ninjutsu-based fighter. The snake poisons him, healing isn't doing anything against poison. Orochimaru in general uses physical attacks mostly, so Kisamehada's chakra absorbtion skills aren't helping him in this matchup.
 

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Kisame uses GW sharks which can swim up to 25-35mph while Andaconda's swim up to 30km/h, they're not slow.

Oro still has arms, which makes it rather difficult my man, not to mention its only the back end that turns into a snake, he can't make the S shape needed for snakes to swim
 

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Oro still has arms, which makes it rather difficult my man, not to mention its only the back end that turns into a snake, he can't make the S shape needed for snakes to swim

It's his entire body, at least it was portrayed that way against Sasuke
 
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