Kisame vs Orochimaru

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I doubt it,he sure can make a small lake with his own chakra but I don't think it'll be as powerful as the one that he used against Guy because during his battle with Guy he has an entire ocean feeding that lake and no need to mention he got extreamly weaker even after using an out side source,pulling water on his own and using that jutsu is abit hard if u ask me & i don't even think it would be as powerful as the last one.There are literally no attacks from Orochimaru that can feel him enough chakra to fuse with Samehada and use his full power.Here what ur overlooking is the fact that in every battle that Kisame showed an over powerd jutsu he sucked alot of chakra from others so there is no evidence to say that he can pull jutsu on that level with his own chakra pool.

true but still u gotta realize his chakra is on par with a jin but I mean we can argue all day but we will never know this isn't just one of those fights u can just be confident in or choice
 

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Orochimaru wins mid diff at the most. Manda could solo. Hydra could solo. Daikodan is blocked by Rashomon. Sword of Kusanagi can pierce him from a long distance.
 

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No think about the manga prior to getting zetsu I believe kisame wins high diff because their are a couple examples when orochimaru fought four tails he struggled so much even tho he didn't have his arms kisame took down roshi by himself and killer bee didn't kisame also state the stronger his opponent the stronger he is even when kisame was in a weakened state and didn't have samehada it took 7 gates gai to beat him and that didn't even kill him all the way he still had enough juice to break free from yamato wood tech and use two water techs

I agree. I think that when Kisame brings out the waterdome and fuses with samaheda, he rapes orochimaru.
 

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true but still u gotta realize his chakra is on par with a jin but I mean we can argue all day but we will never know this isn't just one of those fights u can just be confident in or choice

Ya Iam aware of that but he was called by that name because of Samehada not just because of his own pool as stated by Kisame himself.
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According to feats he pulled them only when he got considerable amount of chakra from his enemies & still Iam not saying that he can't use them,he may not be able to pull them on the same scale as he is not going to get much chakra from Orochimaru.Whatever,I have no problem even if u give him those jutsu with same scale Orochimaru still counters them with the methods that I have mentioned in my prev post,I didn't even use other abilities of Orochimaru but still I have countered two most powerful jutsu of Kisame.Kisame stands a good chance against Oro but he ain't winning this.
 

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Orochimaru counters EVERYTHING Kisame has in his arsenal. There's no way he could win this.
 

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This is hard one, it can go either way, in my opinion Kisame beat Orochimaru 6/10 times.
 

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Lml what is this?

I've won this debate before >.>

Kisame wins 10/10 times XD This must be some kind of joke
 

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I still don't see how orochimaru counters the water dome, especially when kisame fuses.
 

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I still don't see how orochimaru counters the water dome, especially when kisame fuses.

Counters what? Problems with swimming fast enough? Slithering Snake Mode + no need for breathing covers it.
 

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How is Kisame going to dodge the Kusanagi blade when 4 tailed naruto couldn't? Neck extension + kusanagi blade = GG.
If that's not enough, Manda can solo
 

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Kisame wins this. Mid diff I guess
 

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How is Kisame going to dodge the Kusanagi blade when 4 tailed naruto couldn't? Neck extension + kusanagi blade = GG.
If that's not enough, Manda can solo

:| 4 Tailed Naruto that has next to 0 intelligence which leads to an almost non-existence reaction ability
 

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To the ignorant pricks that think manda can solo... LOL? Kisame has more chakra than Orochimaru and Manda combined. Manda can try to eat Kisame and all he has to do is summon water globe inside of Manda and blow him up from the water pressure. Or he can summon water globe and drown them both right off the bat. Kisame wins.

Orochimaru counters EVERYTHING Kisame has in his arsenal. There's no way he could win this.

Oh yeah? Explain how Orochimaru escapes his water dome when Kisame is faster than him in the water, absorbs chakra and can't actually be damaged long enough before he heals himself with samehada.
 
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"Manda can solo"

You've gotta be ****ing kidding me.
 

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Oh yeah? Explain how Orochimaru escapes his water dome when Kisame is faster than him in the water, absorbs chakra and can't actually be damaged long enough before he heals himself with samehada.

Any proof of Orochimaru being slower underwater with Slithering Snake Mode? Moreover, Orochimaru can absorb chakra as well, with a mere touch. And Orochimaru has much more impressive regeneration powers - not only thanks to his Oral Rebirth, but also thanks to his White Snake regeneration. For example, the initial skin layer his body is covered with can be regenerated in an instant and is strong enough to defend his body from Tailed Beast Chakra Claw or point-blank Katon.
 

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Any proof of Orochimaru being slower underwater with Slithering Snake Mode? Moreover, Orochimaru can absorb chakra as well, with a mere touch. And Orochimaru has much more impressive regeneration powers - not only thanks to his Oral Rebirth, but also thanks to his White Snake regeneration. For example, the initial skin layer his body is covered with can be regenerated in an instant and is strong enough to defend his body from Tailed Beast Chakra Claw or point-blank Katon.

Because he has no legs :| So how do you expect him to float? I doubt his weight is altered to the fact, lml, Snakes swim underwater mainly due to there movements and weight, which Oro can't do with arms
 

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Because he has no legs :| So how do you expect him to float? I doubt his weight is altered to the fact, lml, Snakes swim underwater mainly due to there movements and weight, which Oro can't do with arms

Lol, tell that to Manda 2 who had 4 claws.
 

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Any proof of Orochimaru being slower underwater with Slithering Snake Mode? Moreover, Orochimaru can absorb chakra as well, with a mere touch. And Orochimaru has much more impressive regeneration powers - not only thanks to his Oral Rebirth, but also thanks to his White Snake regeneration. For example, the initial skin layer his body is covered with can be regenerated in an instant and is strong enough to defend his body from Tailed Beast Chakra Claw or point-blank Katon.

"slithering snake mode" it's hard to take you seriously, you know that? What with your avatar and sig showing your fanboyism and all. Do you know how physics work? Apparently not. A snake is not faster than a fish underwater. This is a fact, due mainly because snakes have no fins. So you mean to tell me that Orochimaru is faster than Kisame (a water master) underwater when Kisame is fuses into a FISH?! LOL! Ok there, captain fanboy. And Orochimaru can't absorb any chakra with just a touch. He only absorbed HIS chakra back from Kabuto. But good job trying to give him new abilities to try to defend your fanboy arguments. Sure, he has better regenerative skill, but that doesn't matter when he can't breathe underwater like Kisame can. I'm going to laugh so hard if you say that Orochimaru can breathe underwater. He cannot and you have no proof of that claim.

Kisame solos him and Manda.
 
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