Kisame vs EMS Madara

[KidGamer65]

So i guess this isn't Ps because it doesn't have legs either

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That scan you brought up is beyond terrible stop.

Based on what? I'm not seeing any kind of retort here, just a waste of a reply.

 

[Conspirator.]

So i guess this isn't Ps because it doesn't have legs either

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That scan you brought up is beyond terrible stop.

Unstabilized PS and v4 are the same thing like I pointed out earlier. Also,Kurama is bigger than all the bijuus. There's nothing wrong with the scans.

 

[ARGUS]

You're repeating the same fallacious, idiotic post. PS was, is and always not smaller than "the" mountains, as it was coated onside Kurama; and the entity lost its size for better fitting for Kurama to wear on.​

What are you on about,

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coating kuramma or not, PS being smaller than the mountains is still a fact, which you seem to deny

It's not even a sized based argument really, it's what we both consider a mountain. I consider those giant rock formations in kumo gakura 'mountains' or the technique that's called 'mountain sandwhich' or 'mountaineous earth technique' a mountain.

Well in that case, Itachi solos

the last scan you showed of the shinjuu root isn't a good one, as it's not close to the susanoo for a size comparison, while the one i've given shows the susanoo right next to the branch.

No it is a good, one,

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seeing how the susanoo and the kurama avatar are still shown standing beside it, thus making it a valid comparison
while its still larger, it also certainly isnt the size of a mountain,
on top of the fact that the diameter of the root that V3 cut, is no where near the diameter of the mountain,
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[KidGamer65]

No it is a good, one, we see the same shinju root being in comparison to sasukes V3 again,
seeing how the susanoo and the kurama avatar are still shown standing beside it, thus making it a valid comparison
while its still larger, it also certainly isnt the size of a mountain,
on top of the fact that the diameter of the root that V3 cut, is no where near the diameter of the mountain,

No, its not a good one. The Kurama Avatar being with the Susanoo doesn't change the fact that since the root is farther in the background, it looks much smaller than it actually should be. They are not standing beside it. The most valid comparison is the one where he was right next to the root, cutting it down.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Kisame; the man who becomes stronger in direct proportion with his opponent; who's arsenal is perfectly suitable in combating EMS Madara; who possesses a technique capable of shitting all over susano'o; isn't losing this battle.

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara wins this

 

[RicardoA]

Please explain how?

I'll begin by saying its Madara we're talking about. That alone leaves Kisame at a disadvantage regardeless and it takes more than one suiton to take him down.

Susanoo isn't the typical jutsu any character can use, more than just chakra, its also a structure and has withstood other chakra absorbing/negating jutsus before (

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Even the chakra tree can be touched by chakra based jutsus (

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) and that thing was killing in seconds through chakra absorption.

Its not that simple, GBS isn't some op jutsu that can overpower anything. Its just a suiton with chakra absorbing properties, which has its limits. I'm sure this would be one of them.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Kisame; the man who becomes stronger in direct proportion with his opponent; who's arsenal is perfectly suitable in combating EMS Madara; who possesses a technique capable of shitting all over susano'o; isn't losing this battle.

Counter someone's argument then

 

[Unorthodox]

Counter someone's argument then

right lol.........

 

[Beans2]

I'm not saying Kisame wins, but people have some misconceptions here...

1: Kisame can't counter genjutsu. That's wrong, Kisame is a sensor so he can navigate without using eyesight. Therefore, simple avoidance of Itachi's eyes can do the trick. He was able to detect Bee perfectly fine despite being totally blinded by his ink.

2: Katon will evaporate his suitons....like really? Kisame is the best suiton user in the manga, let's see Madara evaporate

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Katons are pretty much a non-factor against a suiton user like this.

 

[Rιver]

I'm not saying Kisame wins, but people have some misconceptions here...

1: Kisame can't counter genjutsu. That's wrong, Kisame is a sensor so he can navigate without using eyesight. Therefore, simple avoidance of Itachi's eyes can do the trick. He was able to detect Bee perfectly fine despite being totally blinded by his ink.

2: Katon will evaporate his suitons....like really? Kisame is the best suiton user in the manga, let's see Madara evaporate

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Katons are pretty much a non-factor against a suiton user like this.

1. Kisame is not a sensor, Samehada is, hence why it gets excited when fighting an opponent with large amount of chakra [

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]. He only gains the ability when fusing with Samehada.

2. Doesn't compare to this [

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].​

 

[Beans2]

1. Kisame is not a sensor, Samehada is, hence why it gets excited when fighting an opponent with large amount of chakra [

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]. He only gains the ability when fusing with Samehada.

2. Doesn't compare to this [

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].​

1. If people actually read the conditions they'd note that Kisame starts the battle fused with Samehada.
2. Actually it does

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Those massive pine trees are dwarfed and the dome is comparable to the mountains in the back, plus fire is weak to water. Not that it matters anyway, since GSB just eats up the flames.

 

[Rιver]

1. If people actually read the conditions they'd note that Kisame starts the battle fused with Samehada.
2. Actually it does

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Those massive pine trees are dwarfed and the dome is comparable to the mountains in the back, plus fire is weak to water. Not that it matters anyway, since GSB just eats up the flames.

1. ...

What's the point if he can't breathe on land? He has gills. :/

But fair point.

2. You do know that, that Katon is much bigger than mountains?​

 

[Beans2]

1. ...

What's the point if he can't breathe on land? He has gills. :/

But fair point.

2. You do know that, that Katon is much bigger than mountains?​

1. He was shown to merge with Samehada on land and still be fine.
2. It doesn't matter, water > fire. It is a hundred times easier to extinguish flames with water than evaporate them with fire. A mass of water that size simply cannot be evaporated.

 

[Lord Orochimaru]

Kisame wins high-diff.

 

[Rιver]

1. He was shown to merge with Samehada on land and still be fine.
2. It doesn't matter, water > fire. It is a hundred times easier to extinguish flames with water than evaporate them with fire. A mass of water that size simply cannot be evaporated.

1. Removed it instantly.

2. Not always [

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]. Water doesn't exactly give an advantage over fire, it's only that it can counter it.​

 

[Beans2]

1. Removed it instantly.

2. Not always [

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]. Water doesn't exactly give an advantage over fire, it's only that it can counter it.​

1. Because the battle was pretty much over at that point and he saw no reason to continue to remain merged?

2. Madara doesn't possess katon on a scale to evaporate Kisame's water dome.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

ems genjutsu and a susanoo slash ends kisame.

only a biased debater thinks kisame wins.

 

[Beans2]

ems genjutsu and a susanoo slash ends kisame.
only a biased debater thinks kisame wins.

Daikodan busts through susanoo and kills madara gg

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Daikodan busts through susanoo and kills madara gg

no it doesnt