Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

[KidGamer65]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

That's why Kamui and ST aren't Fuuinjutsu. The whole concept of Fuuinjutsu is to seal something already existing in something. Ninjutsu on the other hand creates things.

Except Hiraishin isn't a Sealing Jutsu. Does it seal anything inside of anywhere? No. It doesn't.

The point is - if Hiraishin marking is a Fuuin, it has to contain let's say Minato's chakra. If it isn't, then it probably doesn't, but in that case - how would Minato be even able to teleport to it?

1. Its not. Nothing implies this besides the fact its a drawing. Which is bad evidence.

2. That's not how a Seal works. A seal keeps something sealed inside the target, as you just stated. Nothing is sealed inside the seal formula itself, ever. Kurama wasn't sealed inside the seal formula, the formula was only a lock that kept Kurama inside Naruto's body. The Hiraishin Mark doesn't keep anything inside the bodies of the people who are marked, so its not a sealing formula.

 

[Nattana]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

Except Hiraishin isn't a Sealing Jutsu. Does it seal anything inside of anywhere? No. It doesn't.



1. Its not. Nothing implies this besides the fact its a drawing. Which is bad evidence.

2. That's not how a Seal works. A seal keeps something sealed inside the target, as you just stated. Nothing is sealed inside the seal formula itself, ever. Kurama wasn't sealed inside the seal formula, the formula was only a lock that kept Kurama inside Naruto's body. The Hiraishin Mark doesn't keep anything inside the bodies of the people who are marked, so its not a sealing formula.

Ok, so could you give me some insight on how in your opinion Hiraishin, marking/seal/formula/whatever-you-want-to-call-it and connection between a user and a marking work?

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

Uh, what? That's not how it works, don't know where this came from. Don't even know where the Danzo thing came from. There are no chakra in his seals, there is nothing hard to understand about that.

:| I didn't bring up the Danzo thing, And You claim this without any reason or proof?

We've seen that the seals can move on their own, Which would be near impossible if they didn't contain chakra not to mention these are not chakra binding seals, They have no influence on any other persons chakra but Minato's Honestly its blasphemy to think that Minato can FTG and basically teleport to an area without inputting his own chakra first, if that was the case the seals would be completely pointless U_U And he wouldn't need jack squat and he would be able to teleport wherever and whenever he wanted

 

[grizzlyshree]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

:| I didn't bring up the Danzo thing, And You claim this without any reason or proof?

We've seen that the seals can move on their own, Which would be near impossible if they didn't contain chakra not to mention these are not chakra binding seals, They have no influence on any other persons chakra but Minato's Honestly its blasphemy to think that Minato can FTG and basically teleport to an area without inputting his own chakra first, if that was the case the seals would be completely pointless U_U And he wouldn't need jack squat and he would be able to teleport wherever and whenever he wanted

now my question is,how can samehada absorb the sealed chakra in the kunai as per ur words?

 

[KidGamer65]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

:| I didn't bring up the Danzo thing, And You claim this without any reason or proof?

I claim this based on common sense, and the fact that you have no proof for your claims.

We've seen that the seals can move on their own, Which would be near impossible if they didn't contain chakra not to mention these are not chakra binding seals, They have no influence on any other persons chakra but Minato's Honestly its blasphemy to think that Minato can FTG and basically teleport to an area without inputting his own chakra first, if that was the case the seals would be completely pointless U_U And he wouldn't need jack squat and he would be able to teleport wherever and whenever he wanted

The seals don't move on their own. Not sure where you saw this from...but it wasn't this manga.

No, its blasphemy to assume that he has to input his chakra INTO the seal to teleport, when nothing in the manga implies that. The only logical thing you can assume is that it costs chakra to teleport, but that chakra isn't put into the seal.

And lol, no. Chakra is still used, obviously. Doesn't mean that its inside the mark. Nothing but assumptions. No sealing formula, whether it be for Hiraishin or Naruto's seal for Kurama, has ever had chakra inside it.

Ok, so could you give me some insight on how in your opinion Hiraishin, marking/seal/formula/whatever-you-want-to-call-it and connection between a user and a marking work?

I have no way to explain how. All I know is that somehow the user is connected to it.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

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[lanakui8]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

@Bold- That absolutely make no sense what so ever. Juubio never tried to erase the tag seal now did he?

Juubito didn't try because he couldn't as that tag seal was the one reason why he was damaged by attacks from naruto and minato.

Also once Samehada is absorbed Minato has no way of putting Kisame down and that's a fact.

Based on what is that a fact? Is it based on the fact that samehada even when in sword form has never instantly absorbed a ninjutsu and was damaged by touching a mere katon?
Is it based on the fact that Kisame while in samehada form is implied to be durable to the point where he can take an attack that would have critically wounded RnY Ei?

 

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

Re: Kisame "The Monster of the Hidden Mist" vs. Minato "The Yellow Flash"

You nerfed Minato badly, so it could go either way with extremely high difficulty.