Kisame the great underestimated.

[Obito3631]

Where does it say it can't?

Kisame is able to absorb chakra through himself or Samehada.

He actually has against Killer B in the water Dome, and then going against Guy's taijutsu.


I just gave you a counter for Amaterasu, and gave you the proof , why it will work. You haven't shown me why it won't work.

because i told you it could barely absorb a A rank fire jutsu because it was too hot, amaterasu is said to be as hot as the sun

4 is his speed in base form, he was actualyl faster in the water dom because of his shark transformation so he naturally had the advantage . in no way is he faster than V2 Bee rofl

jsut because it can absorb chakra doesnt mean it can absorb amaterasu and ive already explained you why, read the post.

 

[KingHashirama]

because i told you it could barely absorb a A rank fire jutsu because it was too hot, amaterasu is said to be as hot as the sun

4 is his speed in base form, he was actualyl faster in the water dom because of his shark transformation so he naturally had the advantage . in no way is he faster than V2 Bee rofl

jsut because it can absorb chakra doesnt mean it can absorb amaterasu and ive already explained you why, read the post.

- But it still doesn't put the fact of him absorbing the fire though.... Samehada felt it was hot.. but still absorbed it.

- And then in Water Dome.. Itachi has no chance against him.

- Amaterasu consists of chakra, your basis of the argument was based on Amaterasu being too hot.. but it didn't counter the fact that "Too hot" can still be absorbed...

 

[Obito3631]

- But it still doesn't put the fact of him absorbing the fire though.... Samehada felt it was hot.. but still absorbed it.

- And then in Water Dome.. Itachi has no chance against him.

- Amaterasu consists of chakra, your basis of the argument was based on Amaterasu being too hot.. but it didn't counter the fact that "Too hot" can still be absorbed...

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amaterasu is too hot for samehada so it would kill it, you cant contradict manga facts that say amaterasu is as hot as the sun, and also i would like you to use a bit of common sense alright.

Itachi can still cast Amaterasu in water dom, amaterasu appears on the target it doesnt travel underwater.

 

[KingHashirama]

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amaterasu is too hot for samehada so it would kill it, you cant contradict manga facts that say amaterasu is as hot as the sun, and also i would like you to use a bit of common sense alright.

Itachi can still cast Amaterasu in water dom, amaterasu appears on the target it doesnt travel underwater.

Kisame has to catch Itachi to put amaterasu.

And also, I don't see anything proven in that thread. You asked people of their opinions. If you absorb something that is chakra.. its not gonna be too hot.... lol. Thats the point of absorbing.

 

[Obito3631]

Kisame has to catch Itachi to put amaterasu.

And also, I don't see anything proven in that thread. You asked people of their opinions. If you absorb something that is chakra.. its not gonna be too hot.... lol. Thats the point of absorbing.

even if it is able to absor chakra it doesnt mean it can do it in this case, learn the difference
alright use logic
samehada doesnt like things that are hot, amaterasu = as hot as sun, are you following me? a preschooler would understand that.

you have to be as fast as the raikage to dodge amaterasu, even in the water dome kisame is no where as fast as the raikage.

 

[Itachi Hatake]

while Kisame is pouring all this water from his mouth to make the terrain suit him AMATERASU!!! Its purely speculation when you say that he or Samehada can absorb Amaterasu. It should be noted that the only attack that he has absorbed was an attack that was supposed stop him by using chakra in a way to immobilize him so that they can get intel from him. Kisame wouldnt dare try a bout with Itachi because he knows his chances of victories are very slim. He is in no way fast enough to dodge Kisame. And til this day the only person that has been shown to battle Uchiha's Sharingan without looking is Guy. Beside Itachi casts genjutsu from his fingers. Sure Kisame can break out of it, but whats stopping Itachi from using Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi whilie Kisame is incapacitated?

Before you guys even fix your fingers to type Samehada can break him out of Tsukuyomi, WRONG!!! Itachi stated that the only person that can break out of Tsukuyomi, is another Sharingan user with the same blood as he can beat (break) it. Being that its over in 1 second.

Kakuzu showed that the only time his harden skin, can be penetrated is with either Lightning or Wind. You've already stated that Kisame does not possess either. Last time I check Water or Earth does not having the slicing or penetrative power of Lightning or Wind. Say all you want about you dont think its as tough as we make it out to be but its still a manga fact. The only way Kisame could beat Kakuzu is to drain him of his chakra or drown him which is debatable. Like I said in the other thread the guy is made of purely threads, hell how does he breathe in the first place?

 

[Klaroline]

Nicely done. Kisame is no pushover.

 

[avenged sevenfold]

I completely agree with you. You are getting repped

 

[Wood Release]

Sasori < Hidan??? Stopped reading after you said that.

 

[KingHashirama]

Sasori < Hidan??? Stopped reading after you said that.

o-o Sasori is weaker then Hidan mate.

while Kisame is pouring all this water from his mouth to make the terrain suit him AMATERASU!!! Its purely speculation when you say that he or Samehada can absorb Amaterasu. It should be noted that the only attack that he has absorbed was an attack that was supposed stop him by using chakra in a way to immobilize him so that they can get intel from him. Kisame wouldnt dare try a bout with Itachi because he knows his chances of victories are very slim. He is in no way fast enough to dodge Kisame. And til this day the only person that has been shown to battle Uchiha's Sharingan without looking is Guy. Beside Itachi casts genjutsu from his fingers. Sure Kisame can break out of it, but whats stopping Itachi from using Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi whilie Kisame is incapacitated?

Before you guys even fix your fingers to type Samehada can break him out of Tsukuyomi, WRONG!!! Itachi stated that the only person that can break out of Tsukuyomi, is another Sharingan user with the same blood as he can beat (break) it. Being that its over in 1 second.

Kakuzu showed that the only time his harden skin, can be penetrated is with either Lightning or Wind. You've already stated that Kisame does not possess either. Last time I check Water or Earth does not having the slicing or penetrative power of Lightning or Wind. Say all you want about you dont think its as tough as we make it out to be but its still a manga fact. The only way Kisame could beat Kakuzu is to drain him of his chakra or drown him which is debatable. Like I said in the other thread the guy is made of purely threads, hell how does he breathe in the first place?

ACtually, when they met they were shown as equals ;]. And also Kisame doesn't have to look at Itachi.. What is Itachi gonna do about Water Dome?



And also, your saying Kakuzu can take on the TBB?

 

[Itachi Hatake]

I love how you continuously avoid other techniques and dont factor in the variables....

Do you honestly think Kisame can make a giant water dome without being hit by Itachi's attacks? Do you honestly think that Kisame can even keep with Itachi to put him in the normal water dome? Itachi is prone to use clones, Kisame closes in for any attack and its GENJUTSU! Kisame's only hope is to use Giant Water Shark Bullet from the start but by that time he will already be under genjutsu.

And I dont care about they were shown to be equal BS, we all know who listened to who in their partnership. Speaking of their partnership, they were only put together because they share similar history (killing of their comrades). Wait before, you can go back and say something about my post, I should correct it. The only reason they were put together was because Kisame requested his partnership due to shared history of killing their own comrades.

Now, back to Kakuzu. Has Kisame ever been shown to use a TBB? Does Kisame have anything to match the destructive power of a TBB? NO HE DOES NOT. Your logic is flawed in your power scale of death you have going on. I guess you'll make anything out of something to support your case.

I really dont know why you even made a thread about this, you could have continued to debate in the other thread, but that fact still stands that Kakuzu still can go toe to toe with Kisame. The fact that you have Kisame beating him by using his best techniques should speak volumes of him. What kind of destructive power can Kisames GWSB do to Kakuzu when his body is already harden?

 

[Obito3631]

I love how you continuously avoid other techniques and dont factor in the variables....

Do you honestly think Kisame can make a giant water dome without being hit by Itachi's attacks? Do you honestly think that Kisame can even keep with Itachi to put him in the normal water dome? Itachi is prone to use clones, Kisame closes in for any attack and its GENJUTSU! Kisame's only hope is to use Giant Water Shark Bullet from the start but by that time he will already be under genjutsu.

And I dont care about they were shown to be equal BS, we all know who listened to who in their partnership. Speaking of their partnership, they were only put together because they share similar history (killing of their comrades). Wait before, you can go back and say something about my post, I should correct it. The only reason they were put together was because Kisame requested his partnership due to shared history of killing their own comrades.

Now, back to Kakuzu. Has Kisame ever been shown to use a TBB? Does Kisame have anything to match the destructive power of a TBB? NO HE DOES NOT. Your logic is flawed in your power scale of death you have going on. I guess you'll make anything out of something to support your case.

I really dont know why you even made a thread about this, you could have continued to debate in the other thread, but that fact still stands that Kakuzu still can go toe to toe with Kisame. The fact that you have Kisame beating him by using his best techniques should speak volumes of him. What kind of destructive power can Kisames GWSB do to Kakuzu when his body is already harden?

Itachi > Kisame its not even debatable actually, saying that samehada can absorb amaterasu is pure speculation and according to manga facts and hints it clearly wouldnt be able to.

plus kisame cannot fight itachi without looking at him in the eyes and if he doesnt susanoo would crush him.

also hidan and kakuzu > kisame

 

[KakuzuHatesMoney]

- But it still doesn't put the fact of him absorbing the fire though.... Samehada felt it was hot.. but still absorbed it.

- And then in Water Dome.. Itachi has no chance against him.

- Amaterasu consists of chakra, your basis of the argument was based on Amaterasu being too hot.. but it didn't counter the fact that "Too hot" can still be absorbed...

Why are you arguing with that guy? Look at his sig; he's just a fanboy who thinks Itachi>everyone else. I agree with your thread. Kisame is top 4 tier for sure.

 

[Thundercles]

Good thread. I agree.

 

[Thundercles]

I love how you continuously avoid other techniques and dont factor in the variables....

Do you honestly think Kisame can make a giant water dome without being hit by Itachi's attacks? Do you honestly think that Kisame can even keep with Itachi to put him in the normal water dome? Itachi is prone to use clones, Kisame closes in for any attack and its GENJUTSU! Kisame's only hope is to use Giant Water Shark Bullet from the start but by that time he will already be under genjutsu.

And I dont care about they were shown to be equal BS, we all know who listened to who in their partnership. Speaking of their partnership, they were only put together because they share similar history (killing of their comrades). Wait before, you can go back and say something about my post, I should correct it. The only reason they were put together was because Kisame requested his partnership due to shared history of killing their own comrades.

Now, back to Kakuzu. Has Kisame ever been shown to use a TBB? Does Kisame have anything to match the destructive power of a TBB? NO HE DOES NOT. Your logic is flawed in your power scale of death you have going on. I guess you'll make anything out of something to support your case.

I really dont know why you even made a thread about this, you could have continued to debate in the other thread, but that fact still stands that Kakuzu still can go toe to toe with Kisame. The fact that you have Kisame beating him by using his best techniques should speak volumes of him. What kind of destructive power can Kisames GWSB do to Kakuzu when his body is already harden?

Kakuzu uses 99% Ninjutsu. Samehada absorbs it. GG Kakuzu.

 

[Thundercles]

even if it is able to absor chakra it doesnt mean it can do it in this case, learn the difference
alright use logic
samehada doesnt like things that are hot, amaterasu = as hot as sun, are you following me? a preschooler would understand that.

you have to be as fast as the raikage to dodge amaterasu, even in the water dome kisame is no where as fast as the raikage.

Didn't Samehada "cut" through a fire attack with no problem?

 

[Baka Sennin]

why exactly does kisame need to look in itachi's eyes? he knows how good he is at genjutsu better than anyone and can use clones and earth techniques, plus techniques to manipulate the terrain. i'm not saying that he will win, but saying itachi will win easily is stupid, he'll need to pull out all the stops including amaterasu and susanoo. i wouldnt be surprised if kisame tanks tsukuyomi.

 

[Thundercles]

why exactly does kisame need to look in itachi's eyes? he knows how good he is at genjutsu better than anyone and can use clones and earth techniques, plus techniques to manipulate the terrain. i'm not saying that he will win, but saying itachi will win easily is stupid, he'll need to pull out all the stops including amaterasu and susanoo. i wouldnt be surprised if kisame tanks tsukuyomi.

I'm pretty sure Samehada would snap him out of it.

 

[natzzz]

Kisame is 5th for me.tied with kakuzu.

 

[Obito3631]

Didn't Samehada "cut" through a fire attack with no problem?

not with no problem, it let Bee know that it was too hot so it cant absorb things that are excessively hot like amaterasu