Kisame the great underestimated.

[KingHashirama]

Objective:
Kisame the greatest of the 7-swordsmen is so underrated, even though he is considered strong.. his level within the Akatsuki is underrated, and people have him on the levels of Deidara or Kakuzu.. which quite doesn't make any sense. So lets evaluate this man and put him in his proper position within the Akatsuki.

Prowess:
This man's prowess is underrated to the level, where people say Sasori or Kakuzu or Hidan.. could take him on. However that is a myth.

Water Dome and Water prison shark Dance: As we can see by the picture below it is comparable to the size of a mountain, and there is only 1 other person in the Akatsuki who has the power/size of a jutsu comparable to a mountain, and that is Nagato. Even still, this is the same jutsu that gave Killer B tough time. And as we all know Killer B is stronger then Most of the Akatsuki.

Also the shark Dance allows him to change the Dome around, causing confusion in the opponent and making it hard for them to get out.

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Water release Shark feeding: This Jutsu can vary sharks from 1-1000. And the prime of this Jutsu is just HUGE, how exactly can people without this kind of a prowess go against this man? Who in the Akatsuki besides Obito, Nagato or Itachi can this jutsu on? Personally besides those 2.. I don't see anyone that has the power to take this technique head on.. sure they will be able to survive it.. but exactly how many times?

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Water release Great Shark Bullet: Probably his strongest attack physically, this technique was countered by Guy's Daytime Tiger.. in the 7th Gate... And if that Daytime Tiger was made out of chakra the chakra would've been absorbed Kisame's Jutsu and used to make the jutsu bigger and stronger. Again, outclassing most of the Akatsuki member.

Chakra/Strength: He was stated to have more chakra then anyone in the Akatsuki..and the one who stated he has the highest chakra is the ex-leader of the Akatsuki themselves , Nagato Uzumaki. His strength is '5' in the Databook, and its shown by how he took the V2 killer b's Laraite on, and also survived Daytime Tiger.

Chakra:

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Other things to define his prowess:

- Has Suiton and Doton
- Silent Killing
- Samehada
- Swordsmen mastership
- Fusion with Samehada
- Healing


So far with those techniques hes already shown the most prowess, besides Nagato himself, and maybe Obito.


Intelligence:

Though I do not really know of that many occasions where one can say "yea hes hella smart".. but he has shown great amounts of Tactics against Killer B.

And also, note what he after Guy vs Kisame fight. He was intelligent enough fool Naruto, Guy, Yamato and etc .


Conclusion:

As far as I am concerned with the Akatsuki, Kisame has proven himself to be in the top 4, without any competition of a tie. The physical prowess of this man can only be matched in power by NAGATO. Itachi has Susano'o to defend, but he still cannot match the SCALE/LEVEL of Kisame's techniques.

Also, as we know that deaths of the Akatsuki were from the weakest to the strongest (just like any other manga).

Sasori<Hidan<Kakuzu<Deidara<Itachi< Kisame

(Note that I have took out Nagato and Konan, because they were what you call "the special case".)

Question and Answers:

Question: That how does Itachi dieing first make Kisame stronger then him?
Answer: It is because Itachi was already sick. The Itachi that faced off against Sasuke was INFERIOR to Kisame.

Question: How can he take on Deidara's strongest suicidal attack?
Answer: It actually depends on if he lets him use that attack, and even if he does use it, I'm sure water Dome would be able to supress it.

Question: Sasori has over 100 puppets and the Kazekage so what does he have to match that?
Answer: Kisame has Samehada, way more useful then Kazekage puppet, And to much Sasori's 100 puppets Kisame simply has 1000 sharks.

Question: Kakuzu has 5 hearts, 5 bodies, 5 elements how Kisame match him?
Answer: Sharks my friend sharks, also I believe you fans overrate his "shell" quite a bit then it has to be. Kisame's Great Shark bullet is enough of Kakuzu.

Question: How does he defeat the immortal Hidan?
Answer: Same way Shikamaru did lol. ;]



So please, rate the thread, and also make a good discussion. And give your opinion on your top Akatsuki now that you have seen this thread. Forgive any typos and ask if need clarification.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Of course, I didn't read it all, but I agreed with you as soon as I saw the title. I don't need to see the reasons. Kisame fused w/Samehada is among the strongest in the Narutoverse. Base Kisame isn't as OP, but still boss.

 

[Sir Blades]

But guy beat him to a pulp.

 

[-Raviel-]

I dont think aynone ever underestimated Kisame brah.....nice wall of tex.......err thread though

 

[The Necromancer]

I didn't read past the part where you put sasori and hidan in the same tier.

 

[KingHashirama]

But guy beat him to a pulp.

Guy beat a Kisame without Samehada... and also a Kisame that wasn't ready to fight..

Of course, I didn't read it all, but I agreed with you as soon as I saw the title. I don't need to see the reasons. Kisame fused w/Samehada is among the strongest in the Narutoverse.

Amen.

I dont think aynone ever underestimated Kisame brah.....nice wall of tex.......err thread though

There are many who put Kakuzu/Deidara/Hidan/Sasori on his Kisame's level. That is what I stated by "underestimated". I explained it in the thread also, by what I meant by the title.

I didn't read past the part where you put sasori and hidan in the same tier.

I put Sasori lower then Hidan. .

 

[ramzilla20]

If sasori was resurected... the alience will be in great danger hahaha, im getting bored of naruto... rasengan, rasen shuriken, sage mode, any power aisde from kyuubi's help?

 

[Multiply]

Kisame is in my top 5 favorite characters. He's such an op guy. Most ninja would just get stomped out in an instant. Great thread btw and great effort. + rep

 

[Obito3631]

Hes not underrated hes the 5th strongest akatsuki out of 10, its not that bad

 

[KingHashirama]

If sasori was resurected... the alience will be in great danger hahaha, im getting bored of naruto... rasengan, rasen shuriken, sage mode, any power aisde from kyuubi's help?

Sasori was Resurrected and defeated by Kankuro.

Kisame is in my top 5 favorite characters. He's such an op guy. Most ninja would just get stomped out in an instant. Great thread btw and great effort. + rep

He trully is. I didn't used to believe it myself till I reread some of the chapters and the way he is protrayed in the Akatsuki. I find it that hes overlooked by many fans of Akatsuki.

Hes not underrated hes the 5th strongest akatsuki out of 10, its not that bad

Even though he can be Top3 or Top 4. Going back and forth between him and Itachi.. That is the sole reason I made the thread. To give him some acknowledgement , and to show lucky the alliance was that he wasn't resurrected.

 

[Blunt]

Ohh, shit, you just convinced me. First off, good thread I really enjoyed the read. The problem is, is Kisame immune to genjutsu? Itachi also has Amaterasu, which is very fast and Kisame has to be in his a-game.

Otherwise, I do believe he can beat the majority of Akatsuki members. Reppin ya for the good thread.

 

[Untung]

How you can write this "Sasori>Hidan>Kakuzu>Deidara>Itachi> Kisame"

As i remmember when deidara join akatsuki, itachi beat him...
As i remmember to....only this character have flash back to joint akatsuki.
Yeah i know you all will say itachi flash back to but how he meet pain???

Or i need to reread again??

 

[KingHashirama]

Ohh, shit, you just convinced me. First off, good thread I really enjoyed the read. The problem is, is Kisame immune to genjutsu? Itachi also has Amaterasu, which is very fast and Kisame has to be in his a-game.

Otherwise, I do believe he can beat the majority of Akatsuki members. Reppin ya for the good thread.

=D good thing i did xD. My thread has a fulfilled its purpose. ;D

But the thing with Genjutsu is, he knows Itachi can use Genjutsu right so he can use things like Silent killing or avoid looking in Itachi's eyes. But there is also that since he has samehada he can negate Itachi's genjutsu. If you look at when they met, they are shown to be equals in a respect.

How you can write this "Sasori>Hidan>Kakuzu>Deidara>Itachi> Kisame"

As i remmember when deidara join akatsuki, itachi beat him...
As i remmember to....only this character have flash back to joint akatsuki.
Yeah i know you all will say itachi flash back to but how he meet pain???

Or i need to reread again??

O_O oh my god mate, I messed up big time. lol I meant to point the arrows other way sorryyy ;d

 

[Obito3631]

Sasori was Resurrected and defeated by Kankuro.


He trully is. I didn't used to believe it myself till I reread some of the chapters and the way he is protrayed in the Akatsuki. I find it that hes overlooked by many fans of Akatsuki.


Even though he can be Top3 or Top 4. Going back and forth between him and Itachi.. That is the sole reason I made the thread. To give him some acknowledgement , and to show lucky the alliance was that he wasn't resurrected.

Sorry but the winner of Kisame vs Itachi is obvious, Kisame cant absorb amaterasu, samehada could barely absorb a A rank fire jutsu because it was too hot amateraus is said to be as hot as the sun, samehada would die, beside kisame wouldnt be fast enough to react to amaterasu. and also Kakuzu > Kisame, even though they're around the same level.

 

[Blunt]

=D good thing i did xD. My thread has a fulfilled its purpose. ;D

But the thing with Genjutsu is, he knows Itachi can use Genjutsu right so he can use things like Silent killing or avoid looking in Itachi's eyes. But there is also that since he has samehada he can negate Itachi's genjutsu. If you look at when they met, they are shown to be equals in a respect.

Yeah true, he has to avoid or use suiton to rid of regular flames (not amaterasu) because Samehada is weak against even low level fire techniques. If he can pull off the water dome before Itachi can get a Amaterasu flame on him then I say Kisame wins. This fight basically runs down to who pulls off there winning technique first, in all honesty. Water will not effect the black flames.

Once Itachi is in the dome, he won't be able to breath very long including Kisame attacking him it would be too much. I do agree, they are equals and they did acknowledge each other when they met.

 

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

ikr he was even nicknamed by chujoro a tailed beast without any tails

 

[Bogard]

Nice thread bro Kisame is indeed really powerful. I put Kakuzu on his level though in the mid-high tier akatsuki. I would say he is in top4 or 5

 

[KingHashirama]

Sorry but the winner of Kisame vs Itachi is obvious, Kisame cant absorb amaterasu, samehada could barely absorb a A rank fire jutsu because it was too hot amateraus is said to be as hot as the sun, samehada would die, beside kisame wouldnt be fast enough to react to amaterasu. and also Kakuzu > Kisame, even though they're around the same level.

Kisame has shown to absorb chakra attacks mate.

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Also, Kisame's speed is 4.. which is pretty fast. But let me ask this for Itachi, how long will his MS last?

How does he plan to fight someone who outlasts him in chakra.. And is better then him in Taijutsu...

Yeah true, he has to avoid or use suiton to rid of regular flames (not amaterasu) because Samehada is weak against even low level fire techniques. If he can pull off the water dome before Itachi can get a Amaterasu flame on him then I say Kisame wins. This fight basically runs down to who pulls off there winning technique first, in all honesty. Water will not effect the black flames.

Once Itachi is in the dome, he won't be able to breath very long including Kisame attacking him it would be too much. I do agree, they are equals and they did acknowledge each other when they met.

However, he can absorb Amaterasu flames with Samehada or himself.

In water dome, only way Itachi has a chance is with Susano'o. but that makes him pretty Stationary. And then Kisame's speed in the Water dome is extremely fast.

kisame soloed killerbee.

wait actual a 30% version of kisame did.

he is top 3 underated

Amen. Kisame didn't really "Solo" killer B since Killer B could've kept going and etc.

Also, Kisame 30% took on 6 Gates Guy, not killer B bro.

Nice thread bro Kisame is indeed really powerful. I put Kakuzu on his level though in the mid-high tier akatsuki. I would say he is in top4 or 5

=D. And how exactly does Kakuzu go against the guy who pawns him in everything?

 

[Obito3631]

Kisame has shown to absorb chakra attacks mate.

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Also, Kisame's speed is 4.. which is pretty fast. But let me ask this for Itachi, how long will his MS last?

How does he plan to fight someone who outlasts him in chakra.. And is better then him in Taijutsu...


However, he can absorb Amaterasu flames with Samehada or himself.

In water dome, only way Itachi has a chance is with Susano'o. but that makes him pretty Stationary. And then Kisame's speed in the Water dome is extremely fast.


Amen. Kisame didn't really "Solo" killer B since Killer B could've kept going and etc.

Also, Kisame 30% took on 6 Gates Guy, not killer B bro.



=D. And how exactly does Kakuzu go against the guy who pawns him in everything?

Yes, it cant absorb amaterasu.

Kisame speed might be 4 but he has never shown any remarkable speed feats, he wouldnt be able to dodge it.

Amaterasu is his answer and Kisame has no counter to it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Yes, it cant absorb amaterasu.

Kisame speed might be 4 but he has never shown any remarkable speed feats, he wouldnt be able to dodge it.

Amaterasu is his answer and Kisame has no counter to it.

Where does it say it can't?

Kisame is able to absorb chakra through himself or Samehada.

He actually has against Killer B in the water Dome, and then going against Guy's taijutsu.


I just gave you a counter for Amaterasu, and gave you the proof , why it will work. You haven't shown me why it won't work.