Kamui > Genjutsu

[SumnNarutoRelated]

He's still using chakra. It's not like he built a firewall by using Kamui to block Genjutsu. However, only Kishi would state something about this since there's no conclusion.

but his chakra technically "doesn't exist" in the normal plane of reality once something tries to interfere with it while Kamui is activated

 

[Ansatsuken]

Everything passes through Obito while his Kamui is activated. Im asking would genjutsu "hit" him (because in order for a genjutsu to be successfully it has to manipulate one or more of your senses) if he's intangible.

we all know physical things pass through him. Would genjutsu pass through him also?

You know how his intangibility works right?

If Obito still want to have a view on battlefield, he will not send his eyes part/head into Kamui.

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Look at the scan.

He sent parts of his body into Kamui completely but still maintained his eyes and half of his head inside reality world. Thats mean for Itachi what he need just lunch the Genjutsu(Tsukuyomi) on Obito as Obito still have his head/eyes inside Reality world and vulnerable to Genjutsu.

Yes 80% of his body parts were inside Kamui dimension but not his eyes/vision in which Genjutsu's chakra can be transfer through it and effecting whole Obito's body unless he send his head inside Kamui land also.

And not because Genjutsu will pass through Kamui land but Obito cut the link from outside world.

Plus his awareness on Genjutsu activating near zero bcus he was not a best sensor.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Doesn't make sense at all .

 

[Dantee]

but his chakra technically "doesn't exist" in the normal plane of reality once something tries to interfere with it while Kamui is activated

All obito is doing is sending a single body part to the kamui dimension temporarily. And this only happens when he is being physically attacked and at the last moment. IF he's not aware that an attack is happening then kamui doesn't mean anything unless he actually teleports to the dimension.

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[Dark Sonic]

but his chakra technically "doesn't exist" in the normal plane of reality once something tries to interfere with it while Kamui is activated

He can still see outside so he can still get eye contact on Itachi and still get himself into a genjutsu. Genjutsu is strong and not even Bijuu themselves can get out of one. I.E Kyuubi.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

All obito is doing is sending a single body part to the kamui dimension temporarily. And this only happens when he is being physically attacked and at the last moment. IF he's not aware that an attack is happening then kamui doesn't mean anything unless he actually teleports to the dimension.

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this only happened because Obito can't phase and attack at the same time. His intangibility turns off once he goes to attack something


thats exactly why Minato was able to hit him

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

You know how his intangibility works right?

If Obito still want to have a view on battlefield, he will not send his eyes part/head into Kamui.

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Look at the scan.

He sent parts of his body into Kamui completely but still maintained his eyes and half of his head inside reality world. Thats mean for Itachi what he need just lunch the Genjutsu(Tsukuyomi) on Obito as Obito still have his head/eyes inside Reality world and vulnerable to Genjutsu.

Yes 80% of his body parts were inside Kamui dimension but not his eyes/vision in which Genjutsu's chakra can be transfer through it and effecting whole Obito's body unless he send his head inside Kamui land also.

And not because Genjutsu will pass through Kamui land but Obito cut the link from outside world.

Plus his awareness on Genjutsu activating near zero bcus he was not a best sensor.

Obit doesn't "send" parts of his body anywhere. The part of the body that is "attacked" is sent to Kamuiland as long as Obito isn't himself trying to attack or touch anything.

 

[Dantee]

this only happened because Obito can't phase and attack at the same time. His intangibility turns off once he goes to attack something


thats exactly why Minato was able to hit him

:sdo: Exactly why Obito needs to activate kamui consciously. If he's not aware of an attack he'll get hit by it so him wanting to attack or defend means nothing.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

:sdo: Exactly why Obito needs to activate kamui consciously. If he's not aware of an attack he'll get hit by it so him wanting to attack or defend means nothing.

jesus christ smh



of course its activated... the entire point of the thread was can Obito be affected by genjutsu while kamui is ACTIVATED

 

[Angelic.]

Sends his brain to kamui gg xD

 

[Ansatsuken]

Obit doesn't "send" parts of his body anywhere. The part of the body that is "attacked" is sent to Kamuiland as long as Obito isn't himself trying to attack or touch anything.

Yeah something like that. It not change anything however we worded our post.

The thing is Obito still can be caught in Genjutsu if he not aware of Genjutsu activating for him to sent his head into kamui.

If he aware of it, Genjutsu will fail to effect him as his entire head was inside Kamui.

But he never sent all of his vision inside Kamui using intangibility as he need to see what happen around him.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Sends his brain to kamui gg xD

this.

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[SumnNarutoRelated]

Yeah something like that. It not change anything however we worded our post.

The thing is Obito still can be caught in Genjutsu if he not aware of Genjutsu activating for him to sent his head into kamui.

it.

doesn't.

matter.

if.

he.

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or.

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Kamui.

activated.

genjutsu.

should.

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ffect.

 

[Kingu]

Since chakra is apart of his body and is flowing around him like blood vessels, then he's immune to it, scince genjutsu affects the chakra flow.
From my understanding

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You don't need sharingan to cast a genjutsu, just look at Itachi's Ephemeral ring.

Oh you're talking about the finger genjutsu?
It's the same speed as a sharingan genjutsu because the databook said it's instant as well.

 

[00Rinne]

he ran away from godtachi in road to ninja. (I dont know if it's canon) But he stated that even though godtachi couldn't touch him he was still a problem. It kinda implied that godtachi could genjutsu him without physical contact.

 

[Tyris]

Yeah, just like you need to activate the sharingan to use a genjustu.
Intangible kamui is instant and JJ Madara/Kaguya couldn't get Kakashi or Tobi when he used the intangibility.

Lord Crow always has gg activated unless you bby bro Le Sauce.. instant genjutsu gg's before fights even start lol

Can genjutsu through major genjutsu defenses and use your own gen' against you instantly lol

Does it count that Obito ran from ama' whilst being intangible??
Since instances/feats from boruto & the last movies are used?

Also if it was truly instant why did obito rely on izanagi as opposed to his ultimate defense and what not.. oh wait.. is it because he knew kamui warp was too slow and had izanagi prepped to survive whatever Lord Crow's second to last trump card was with Le Sauce?

The same guy who struggled with base Gai's tai most def' gets hit with the undeniable & untested (sasuke fight no count) visual prowess of Itachi.

 

[Tyris]

and Obito constantly used Kamui with 3 tomoe

and Itachi used Susanoo while blind

and Madara used Full Susanoo while blind



plot holes

plot holes everywhere

Wasn't blind. Susano'o was activated before kirin struck and he deactivated soon after. Cant recall any other time he seemingly was at his most visually impaired.

 

[LoZelda101]

Otherwise Itachi would have killed him up front

Because plot.

actually.....









Kamui is not only instant, its automatic when its turned on. if anything, its faster than genjutsu

It's a fact that obito uses intangible kamui in a response to a threat or counter. for it to be better would require obito to see genjutsu coming. which he can't. genjutsu > kamui

 

[Brooks]

Apparently, all Chakra leaves your body when you're intangible despite the fact you need Chakra to stay in that state. How stupid can people in this forum be?

Obito better hope he doesn't get caught in a Genjutsu...because Kamui is useless against Genjutsu.