[VS] Kamui Duo Takes The Gaunltet!!!
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yup...
idk maybe there is someone who thinks that Itachi and Sasuke can beat Base Minato and Tobirama but for Kamui Duo its way hard to fight FTG Duo than Uchiha bros....
Kakashi managed to snipe the gedo's arm off before it could teleport, & ripped a hole in JJ madara's tsb before he could sense it.
Alternatively, SM/JJ madara reacted & countered both minato & tobirama's FTG, yet failed to keep up with intangibility.
Then there's that fact that figuring out FTG's mechanics is much easier than figuring out how kamui works.
The advantage goes to team kamui, & with full info the advantage goes to the FTG duo.
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there is a difference between them ,kamui output isnt chakra while amatrasu is ,so if there is such difference between them ,then applying amatrasu’s drawbacks on kamui isnt fair ,you should search for another way to know if kamui needs gathering chakra at the eye or not ,it is like saying sasuke’s s/t can be sensed because he needs to stare at the target before teleporting just like amatarsu
if you think kamui needs gathering chakra in the eye before using it ,then tell me why you think so
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Both build up chakra in the eye. As such can be sensed. Yey or nay?
@Drapshin with no info on both sides obito gets murked like he did when he had partial info.
With full info like you already admitted the ftg duo wins.
Well no shit it needs to gather chakra.
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He said with his current chakra it would be impossible to warp Asura paths already bisected and crushed body, but he had enough to warp away a missile.
Which proves Kamui requires a chakra output (proportional to size).
Lol,this means it costs chakra proportional to the size just like any ninjutsu in the manga ,it doesnt mean it needs tobiuld the chakra up to the eye
i meant by saying that kamui output isnt chakra that the barrier isnt made of chakra
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Minato Was Able To Throw a Kunai Under JJ Madara Before Kakashi Can Finish His Kamui On Obito...So No,Kamui Snipe Isn't Happening.
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Actually that's a nay, we've already seen kamui warp in & out of a jinton cube & that was all without karin sensing him. [
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] Kamui has feats that show it can bypass sensory abilities & that's just the slower counterpart to it, kakashi's kamui is faster by feats.Many things about that situation will be different.
- Obito won't be
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like he did when he was 14, thus giving team FTG much less time to escape- Team FTG won't have prep, so escaping won't be as surefire as before with minato
- Obito isn't using chains to attack since it's not his usual fighting style anyways
- Obito won't have to go in for a head-on warp, he can simply let kakashi pressure them with snipes while he attacks from behind
The battle won't play out the same way that it did in canon, also I should clarify that I'm using prime MS obito [konan fight] & war arc MS kakashi since the versions aren't really clear.
It's still debatable given the circumstances, but yes they do have the advantage, mainly due to clones.
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When it comes to the distance of the attack, Kakashi always begins by building chakra up.
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This wasn't even addressed to you tho.... overachiever.
True.
but as it stands ftg is still faster than obito's kamui and without knowledge of his jumping abilities he wouldn't know whether he/they even have of method of escape. It works both ways.
throwing/marking the battlefield has always been step 1 for minato, obito getting the jump on him isn't an option like it was during their scuffle on the hokage monument. So chances are he'll still have his methods of escape.
actually chains is incorporated in to two of his fighting styles. So the opposite is true. He does use chains in his fighting style. But it's irrelevant here, which is most likely your point.
5 snipes, yet its being used for cover fire while obito sneaks... not wise. If anything it should be the other way around since obito can use it more freely and kakashi's is faster. Just my opinion. Either way ftg users are a horrible matchup for kakashi. Despite his versatility he's unable to effectively pressure either. They're simply to fast and his only threat to them is limited and can be outsped via ftg.
thought you were using war arc obito with path/beasts restricted. I'm guessing you want the 10 min izanagi? I could see how that tips the scale for them but in all honesty kakashi can't offer much help to obito and obito is incapable of beating either in a 1v1 let alone 2v1.
ok.
where did you get the distance part from?
kakashi wasnt biulding his chakra up to the eye ,he was create more chakra because he hadnt enough then ,fore example he warped the gedo’s arm without biulding the chakra up to the eye
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I got the distance from the fact that EVERY Kamui use of its speed warps was determine how far or how close the target is.
@Bold thats the same thing.
no ,the speed of kamui differs according to the user will ,obito himself said that he would kamui faster the next time against minato
no it isnt the same thing ,if kakashi hasnt enough chakra for kamui ,he cant use it unless he regained his chakra just like the case with any jutsu in the manga ,that doesnt mean he needs to create more chakra everytime before using kamui even if he has enough chakra